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Belgium vs Netherlands Cups

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Football tournament
Coupe Vanden Abeele
Rotterdamsch Nieuwsblad Beker
Hylkema with the Coupe Vanden Abeele (1914)
Founded1904
Abolished1932
RegionLow Countries (UEFA)
Teams2
Last champions Belgium (15th title)
Most championships Netherlands (16 titles)

TheBelgium vs Netherlands Cups were a series of internationalfootballfriendly cup matches contested by the national teams ofBelgium and theNetherlands. From their firstunofficial friendlyderbies in the early 1900s, until the mid-1920s, Belgium and the Netherlands competed for floating trophies. During the encounters inBelgium the teams played for theCoupe Vanden Abeele until 1925, while in theNetherlands they faced off for theRotterdamsch Nieuwsblad Beker until 1923.[1] In total, there has been 39 Belgian-Dutch friendly cup duels, of which 35 were official internationals.[2]

The cup awarded in Belgium was named in honor of the donator of the trophy, Frédéric Vanden Abeele Sr., the father of the secretary ofBeerschot Athletic Club (where the first tournament was held), in reaction to Brussels' successful staging of theCoupe Van der Straeten Ponthoz one year earlier.[3] As the Dutch disliked the design of the Belgian trophy, they quickly nicknamed itHet Koperen Dingetje, meaning "The Copper Thingy".[4]

These Belgian-Dutch friendly cups are among the oldest international football cups along with the1904 Évence Coppée Trophy.

History

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The first Belgium national team, 28 April 1901. Back from left:Henry Menzies, Georges Simon,Fernand Defalle, Hughes Ryan,Gustave Pelgrims, Charles Maggee (referee). Front from left:Herbert Potts, Jan Robyns, Ernest Gillon, Albert Friling (Captain),Lucien Londot,Walter Potts.

After the huge success of the first edition of theCoupe Van der Straeten Ponthoz in1900, the plans for another international club tournament began, and in February 1901, the "Comité voor den beker-Vanden Abeele" invited a Dutch eleven to travel toAntwerp to contest theCoupe Vanden Abeele (offered by Frédéric Vanden Abeele) against an All-Belgium side during the Easter holiday. However, the Easter weekend was already planned for the second edition of the Coupe Van der Straeten Ponthoz in Brussels, so the match had to be delayed by three weeks, and since many Dutch clubs had league commitments on the new date, the Dutch team fell apart and the match was thus almost canceled.[4] However, the Antwerp football director Frédéric Vanden Abeele personally hiredCees van Hasselt, a former Sparta player and atailor inRotterdam who had traveled to Antwerp for this match, to quickly assemble a Dutch team to play the game.[5] The ones who took the initiative to play this match against Belgium were Van Hasselt and his friend Jirris,[6] thecaptain of Rotterdam club side Celeritas, a club from a third-level competition, and this squad was then strengthened by three players from another Rotterdam club, Olympia, which was also a third-level side.[4] Naturally, the hosts, whose team was announced as an All-Belgium XI and included four Englishmen residing in Belgium, had little trouble claiming the Coupe Vanden Abeele after an 8–0 victory, with the star of the match being the EnglishHerbert Potts, who netted 7 of the Belgian goals.[4] Although the dirigents of this cup only intended to create another international club tournament, they instead had just witnessed what is now considered the first-ever (unofficial) match betweenBelgium and the Netherlands, held on 28 April 1901 at the ground ofBeerschot A.C. in front of just 300 people. This match took place a year earlier than thefirst official international match played in continental Europe betweenAustria andHungary on 12 October 1902.[7]

The next three editions saw the Dutch represented by sides selected and organized by Cees van Hasselt. As a result of the games not being sanctioned by theRoyal Dutch Football Association (KNVB), only players from the second division were available to Van Hasselt, so Belgium also won those three editions, although with more leveled scores (1–0, 2–1 and 6–4).[8] Neither team can be considered a full national team since the Netherlands was only represented by players from South Netherlands and also because the match was not yet played under the auspices of the KNVB, while the Belgium squad had the presence of English players in the "Belgian" squad such ascenter-forward Herbert Potts, who scored 12 of "Belgium's" 17 goals.[4] Likewise, in those games the Netherlands was announced under the name of "Van Hasselt XI", while the hosts were announced as an All-Belgian League XI.

In 1905 the Dutch football federation decided to take direct responsibility for the selection of the Dutch side, and so, on 30 April 1905, theNetherlands national team played their first official international game, beating Belgium 4–1 in Antwerp, courtesy of a four-goal haul fromEddy de Neve, thus winning the Coupe Vanden Abeele for the first time.[9]Belgium was the first ever opponent of the Netherlands, but the opposite can't be said as Belgium's official debut came on 1 May 1904 againstFrance atÉvence Coppée Trophy.[10]

Coupe Vanden Abeele

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Unofficial results (1901–1904)

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The earliest four games played by a national selection of players active in Belgium, with theNetherlands as opponent between 1901 and 1904, were not yet considered as official because of the presence of English players in the "Belgian" squad.[11][12]

1901

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Belgium 8–0 Netherlands
H. Potts ?',?',?',?',?',?',?'
W. Potts ?'
Report
Beerschot A.C. ground,Antwerp, Belgium
Attendance: 300

1902

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Belgium 1–0Netherlands Netherlands (Van Hasselt XI)
W. PottsReport
Beerschot A.C. ground,Antwerp, Belgium

1903

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The Van Hasselt XI had originally announced to field the Sol brothers (John andEetje), but they were replaced byDirk Lotsij andDolf Heijning.

Belgium 2–1Netherlands Netherlands (Van Hasselt XI)
Blanchard 1–1'
H. Potts 2–1'
ReportLotsy 0–1'
Beerschot A.C. ground,Antwerp, Belgium

1904

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Belgium had originally announced to field an exclusively Belgian squad, but eventually replaced the injured Paul Chibert withHerbert Potts, who contributed decisively to Belgium's win, scoring four goals.

Belgium 6–4Netherlands Netherlands (Van Hasselt XI)
H. Potts 1–0',2–1',4–2',6–4'
Feye 3–2',5–4'
ReportBekker 1–1'
Kamperdijk 2–2'
Van den Berg 3–4'
Wollenberg 4–4'
Beerschot A.C. ground,Antwerp, Belgium
Referee: Herbert Willing (Netherlands)

Official results (1905–1925)

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1905

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Belgium 1–4 (a.e.t.) Netherlands
Stom 86' (o.g.)Reportde Neve 80',106',117',119'
Beerschot A.C. ground,Antwerp, Belgium
Attendance: 800
Referee:Frank König (Belgium)

1906

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Belgium 5–0 Netherlands
Vanden Eynde 15'
Goetinck 40'
De Veen 52',68',80'
Report
Beerschot A.C. ground,Antwerp, Belgium
Attendance: 2,000
Referee:Pat Harrower (England)

1907

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Belgium 1–3 (a.e.t.) Netherlands
Feye 13'ReportVan Gogh 74',118'
Feith 99'
Beerschot A.C. ground,Antwerp, Belgium
Attendance: 2,500
Referee:Pat Harrower (England)

1908

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Belgium 1–4 Netherlands
Vertongen 81'ReportRuffelse 12'
Thomée 50',74'
De Korver 85'
Beerschot A.C. ground,Antwerp, Belgium
Attendance: 2,000
Referee:Pat Harrower (England)

1909

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Belgium 1–4 Netherlands
Poelmans 63'ReportSnethlage 11'
Kessler 19'
Welcker 38'
Lutjens 79'
Beerschot A.C. ground,Antwerp, Belgium
Attendance: 6,000
Referee: Thomas Kyle (England)

1910

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Belgium 3–2 (a.e.t.) Netherlands
De Veen 19',24'
Six 119'
ReportLutjens 21'
Kessler 26'
Beerschot A.C. ground,Antwerp, Belgium
Attendance: 8,500

Note: After this match, it was decided that draws would not be followed by extra time anymore; so in case of a draw after 90 minutes, the holders retained the cup.[4]

1911

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Belgium 1–5 Netherlands
Paternoster 78'ReportM. Francken 8',36',55'
Thomée 83'
Welcker 88'
Beerschot A.C. ground,Antwerp, Belgium
Attendance: 12,000
Referee: Thomas Campbell (England)

1912

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Belgium 1–2 Netherlands
Nisot 60'ReportThomée 58',72'
Beerschot A.C. ground,Antwerp, Belgium
Attendance: 9,225
Referee: Charles Crisp (England)

1913

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Belgium 3–3 Netherlands
De Veen 17',29'
Nisot 30'
ReportBosschart 1'
Haak 44'
M. Francken 63'
Beerschot A.C. ground,Antwerp, Belgium
Attendance: 12,000

1914

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Belgium 2–4 Netherlands
Brébart 18' (pen.)ReportKessler 32',74'
Westra 63'
J. Francken 80'
Beerschot A.C. ground,Antwerp, Belgium
Attendance: 20,000

Note: Belgium and Netherlands faced each other on 31 August 1920 and on 15 May 1921, but the trophy was not on offer in either match because the first was anOlympic semifinal and the second was held in celebration of the silver jubilee of theBelgian FA); thus, they are not part of the series.[4]

1922

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Belgium 4–0 Netherlands
Larnoe 14',86'
Vandevelde 37'
Coppée 47'
Report
Attendance: 40,000
Referee: Claud Newman (England)

1924

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Belgium 1–1 Netherlands
Thys 78'ReportVisser 74'
Attendance: 30,000
Referee: Harry Kingscott (England)

Note: The 1–1 draw meant that the holders Belgium retained the cup, but at the post-match banquet,Joseph d'Oultremont, the president of the Belgian FA, handed the trophy to Dutch captainHarry Dénis in recognition of the Dutch performance in the match.[4]

1925

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Belgium 0–1 Netherlands
Reportvan Baar van Slangenburgh 64'
Attendance: 30,000
Referee: Harry Kingscott (England)

Note: The last Coupe Vanden Abeele match was also the first in which the hosts failed to score.[4]

Coupe Vanden Abeele statistics

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Record

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TeamPldWDLGFGADif
 Belgium143382534-9
 Netherlands148333425+9

All-time top scorers

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RankNameTeamGoalsTournament(s)
1BelgiumRobert De VeenBelgium71906 (3), 1910 (2) and 1913 (2)
2NetherlandsJan ThoméeNetherlands51908 (2), 1911 (1) and 1912 (2)
NetherlandsMannes Francken1911 (3) and 1913 (1)
4NetherlandsEddy de Neve41905 (4)
NetherlandsDé Kessler1910 (1), 1914 (2) and 1921 (1)

Rotterdamsch Nieuwsblad Beker

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Official results (1905–1923)

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1905

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Netherlands 4–0 Belgium
Hesselink 74'
de Neve 76' (pen.),84'
Lutjens 80'
Report
Schuttersveld ground,Rotterdam, Netherlands
Attendance: 30,000
Referee: Henry Vermeulen (Netherlands)

1906

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Netherlands 2–3 Belgium
Muller 32'
Van der Vinne 54'
ReportCambier 76',88'
Destrebecq 81'
Attendance: 7,000
Referee:Frank König (Belgium)

1907

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Netherlands 1–2 Belgium
Feith 54'ReportFeye 14'
Goetinck 60'
De Hout,Haarlem, Netherlands
Attendance: 10,000
Referee: Ernest Holland (England)

1908

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Netherlands 3–1 Belgium
Snethlage 17'
Thomée 31' (pen.),60' (pen.)
ReportSaeys 90'
Prinsenlaan,Rotterdam, Netherlands
Attendance: 6,000
Referee:Jack Howcroft (England)

1909

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Netherlands 4–1 Belgium
Lutjens 2'
Snethlage 21',32',54'
ReportGoossens 58'
Prinsenlaan,Rotterdam, Netherlands
Attendance: 10,000
Referee:Jack Howcroft (England)

1910

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Netherlands 7–0 Belgium
Welcker 10',28'
M. Francken 15',45',62'
Thomée 55',80'
Report
De Hout,Haarlem, Netherlands

1911

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Netherlands 3–1 Belgium
M. Francken 28',76'
van Breda Kolff 29'
ReportSix 36'
Attendance: 9,000
Referee: George Miller (England)

1912

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Netherlands 4–3 Belgium
van Berckel 1'
M. Francken 2',20',62'
ReportMusch 27'
Nisot 43',56'
Attendance: 10,000
Referee: John Pearson (England)

1913

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Netherlands 2–4 Belgium
Bouvy 35' (pen.)
de Groot 55'
ReportSuetens 2'
Musch 20',40'
Nisot 36'
Attendance: 12,000
Referee: John Baily (England)

1914

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Netherlands 4–2 Belgium
Buitenweg 15',81'
Vos 24'
Kessler 62'
ReportVan Cant 37'
Nisot 40'
Attendance: 28,282
Referee: John Pearson (England)

1922

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Netherlands 1–2 Belgium
Bulder 88'ReportDénis 8' (o.g.)
Michel 42'
Attendance: 29,730
Referee: Louis Fourgous (France)

1923

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Netherlands 1–1 Belgium
Heijnen 68'ReportThys 34'
Attendance: 30,000
Referee: Ernst Albihn (Sweden)

Rotterdamsch Nieuwsblad Beker statistics

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Record

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TeamPldWDLGFGADif
 Belgium2155113555-20
 Netherlands2111555535+20

All-time top scorers

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RankNameTeamGoalsTournament(s)
1NetherlandsMannes FranckenNetherlands81910 (3), 1911 (2) and 1912 (3)
2NetherlandsEdu Snethlage41908 (1) and 1909 (3)
NetherlandsJan Thomée1908 (2) and 1910 (2)
BelgiumFernand NisotBelgium1912 (1), 1913 (2) and 1914 (1)
5BelgiumJoseph Musch31912 (1) and 1913 (2)

General statistics

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Overall record

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Belgium-Netherlands Cup Record
CompetitionPlayedResultsGoals
BelgiumDrawNetherlandsBelgiumNetherlands
Belgium1905–25 Coupe Vanden Abeele143*382534
Netherlands1905–23 Rotterdamsch Nieuwsblad Beker2155113555
Total358*8196089
* Excluding the four trophies between 1901 and 1904 won by a 'Belgian' selection, asthese matches are unofficial.

General all-time top scorers

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RankNameTeamGoalsTournament(s)
1NetherlandsMannes FranckenNetherlands12CVA (4) and RNB (8)
EnglandHerbert PottsBelgiumCVA (12)
2NetherlandsJan ThoméeNetherlands9CVA (5) and RNB (4)
3BelgiumRobert De VeenBelgium7CVA (7)
4NetherlandsEddy de NeveNetherlands6CVA (4) and RNB (2)
BelgiumFernand NisotBelgiumCVA (2) and RNB (4)
6NetherlandsDé KesslerNetherlands5CVA (4) and RNB (1)
NetherlandsEdu SnethlageCVA (1) and RNB (4)

Hat-tricks

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Since the first official tournament in 1905, a total of 6hat-tricks have been scored in the 35 official cups. The first hat-trick was scored byEddy de Neve ofNetherlands, scoring 4 goals in a 4-1 win at the Coupe Vanden Abeele on 30 April 1905; and the last was byMannes Francken, netting three goals also for the Netherlands in a 4-3 win at the Rotterdamsch Nieuwsblad Beker on 28 April 1912. The record for the most goals scored in a single match is 4, which has been achieved on just one occasion: by the Dutch Eddy de Neve at the 1904 Coupe Vanden Abeele, with three of his goals coming inextra-time. However, if we also include the unofficial matches, then the record is held by the EnglishmenHerbert Potts of Belgium, who netted a whopping seven goals in an 8-0 win at the 1901 Coupe Vanden Abeele. Mannes Francken is the only player to have scored three hat-tricks in thesefriendly duels, two at RNBs (1910 and 1912) and one at the CVA (1911), which is a remarkable achievement since no one else has even scored two, sept for Herbert Potts if the unofficial games are considered. The Netherlands holds the record for most hat-tricks scored with 5, while Belgium only has 1, which was scored byRobert De Veen. On the other hand, the cups are perfectly balanced on hat-tricks, with each having three.

List

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Belgium vs Netherlands Cup hat-tricks
#PlayerGTime of goalsForResultAgainstTournamentDateFIFA
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.Herbert Potts7?', ?', ?', ?', ?', ?', ?' Belgium8–0 Netherlands1901 Coupe Vanden Abeele28 April 1901
.Herbert Potts (2)4?', ?', ?', ?'6–41904 Coupe Vanden Abeele3 January 1904
1.Eddy de Neve480', 106', 117', 119' Netherlands4–1 Belgium1905 Coupe Vanden Abeele30 April 1905
2.Robert De Veen352', 68', 80' Belgium7–1 Netherlands1906 Coupe Vanden Abeele29 April 1906
3.Edu Snethlage321', 32', 54' Netherlands4–1 Belgium1909 Rotterdamsch Nieuwsblad Beker25 April 1909
4.Mannes Francken315', 45', 62'7–01910 Rotterdamsch Nieuwsblad Beker10 April 1910
5.Mannes Francken (2)38', 36', 55'5–11911 Coupe Vanden Abeele19 March 1911
6.Mannes Francken (3)32', 20', 62'4–31912 Rotterdamsch Nieuwsblad Beker28 April 1912

See also

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