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City of Seberang Perai?

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Latest comment:6 years ago7 comments3 people in discussion

Recently, the Penang state government, led by Chow Kon Yeow, declared its intention of turning Seberang Perai into a city.[1]

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However, I feel there is some ambiguity regarding Seberang Perai's status as a city. The termSeberang Perai generally refers to the mainland half of Penang. But unlike other cities, it has no well-definedurban core. Instead, Seberang Perai (as a municipality) encompasses several scattered settlements. The largest of the towns by population isButterworth, althoughBukit Mertajam is where the seat of the local government (Seberang Perai Municipal Council) is situated.

Hence, my question is as follows. For Wikipedia purposes, should
a.) Seberang Perai in its entirety be considered a city, or
b.)Butterworth be considered as being granted city status on the virtue of it being the largest town, or
c.) the city status be accorded toBukit Mertajam as the seat of the local government?

Personally speaking, I prefer option (b) (that Butterworth is the central city within Seberang Perai), as Butterworth has been displayed more prominently in maps of the region compared to either Seberang Perai or Bukit Mertajam. But I would leave it to the other Wikipedia editors. I hope to be able to come to a consensus with other Malaysian Wikipedia editors on whether to recognise Seberang Perai as a city.Vnonymous (talk)15:02, 3 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Vnonymous:, as a resident in Seberang Perai, I think it can be a city as it can consider asCounty-level city.. Using Butterworth and Bukit Mertajam are not suitable as those towns are totally different and perhaps they can split MPSP into two local government as MPSP is the most largest LC in Malaysia and 21 assemblymen within the jurisdiction area angys(Talk Talk)15:09, 3 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Molecule Extraction:, you are welcome to discuss. angys(Talk Talk)15:09, 3 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

@*angys*: So a county-level city... or alocal government area would be more suitable to describe Seberang Perai (when it is granted city status)? Do note that there is no specific settlement by the name of Seberang Perai to begin with (but there are settlements by the name of Butterworth and Bukit Mertajam).
Perhaps describing Seberang Perai as a local government area would be more suitable since the largest population centre and the administrative centre are at two different places (unlike other cities, eg KL, Penang Island, JB, KK, Kuching, etc, where the administrative centre is usuallyalso the main population centre). Just my two cents, though.Vnonymous (talk)15:35, 3 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Yes, Seberang Perai is quite different, should do a definition for it in that article, LGA also can be accept. angys(Talk Talk)16:53, 3 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

  That will be a good plan to upgrade its status into a city but asVnonymous had mentioned earlier that there is no special zone/city centre designated for a new city named asSeberang Perai City as the capital ofSeberang Perai, then it is not yet a city at least for now. Basically I will wait for a final decision from the government until they really proceed with the idea as been did towardsIskandar Puteri last year[1]. Molecule Extraction (talk)05:10, 4 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
Points taken. Perhaps the problem lies in the nomenclature too, seeing that Seberang Perai refers to the wider geographic area instead of a specific settlement. Hence the lack of a well-defined city centre. Not sure if the urban planning authorities did consider this anomaly.Vnonymous (talk)05:44, 4 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Also explain "Seberang'

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Latest comment:5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Etymology: also explain "Seberang'.Jidanni (talk)13:45, 9 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

GA Review

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Latest comment:6 months ago28 comments2 people in discussion

The following discussion is closed.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Nominator:HundenvonPenang (talk ·contribs)03:55, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer:Kimikel (talk·contribs)03:09, 21 October 2024 (UTC)Reply


Hello, I am going to review this article as part of theOctober GA backlog drive. I should be done within a week or so.Kimikel (talk)03:09, 21 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

ThanksKimikel! Glad this review is finally kicking off 
Will be making the necessary amendments as you go.hundenvonPG (talk)04:33, 21 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
@HundenvonPenang: Please see my review below. For an article of this size, the prose is relatively error-free; there are, however, some issues with the citations that will need to be rectified before this review can be closed. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns regarding my suggestions, thank you!Kimikel (talk)03:19, 23 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the feedbackKimikel. As much as possible, I've addressed the points below and amendments have been made.hundenvonPG (talk)14:27, 23 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
@HundenvonPenang: I appreciate your prompt, quality work. Considering the length of the article, this was a very easy review; thank you for that. I've gone through the article myself and I don't see anything left to fix. As such, I am going to close this review as a pass. Thank you for all your work and congratulations!Kimikel (talk)02:54, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Well-written

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British rule

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Governance and politics

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  • "Local government elections, which had been in place from 1961, were suspended following the Indonesia–Malaysia confrontation and have not been reinstated since." > Since that confrontation ended only five years after 1961, it seems like it would be better to phrase the sentence something like: "Local government elections were put in place in 1961, but were suspended due to the Indonesia–Malaysia confrontation and have not been reinstated since."
  • "The mayor of Seberang Perai since 2024" > As of June 2024, the mayor of Seberang Perai is
  • It's odd that "γ" comes before "β" in the text
  • "establishing a total of 20 police stations throughout the city as of 2022" > "establishing" makes it sound like they just recently opened them, maybe "maintaining" would be better

Demographics

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Economy

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Transportation

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Utilities

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International relations

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  • "This list is based on information from the Malaysian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, unless otherwise cited." > since there are no other citations, this sentence is unnecessary

Notable people

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  • "personalities including:" > personalities, including:

Verifiable

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  • A notable reoccurring issue with the sourcing of this article is that many of the books and journals cited lack specific page numbers. Please add page numbers where the information cited can be found wherever at all possible. Additionally, there are multiple 404 (page not found errors) with some of the links, so please try to update some of those where possible.

Spot check

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  1. 153: 404 error
  Fixed Replaced citationhundenvonPG (talk)14:27, 23 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
  1. 146: Verified
  2. 91: Verified
  3. 15: 404 error
  Fixed Fixed citationhundenvonPG (talk)14:27, 23 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
  1. 159: Verified

Broad

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  • I feel as though the article is lacking at least a very brief mention of crime in the city, specifically how prevalent/rare it is and what kinds of crime is common
    • As far as I could tell, apart from the ocassional news reports on crime rates within a section of Seberang Perai ([2],[3]), there isn't much to expand on regarding crime; detailed statistics of crime in the city are scarce.hundenvonPG (talk)14:27, 23 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Stable

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  • Stable

Neutral

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  • Neutral

Illustrated

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  • Images all are properly tagged and usable, contribute to the article, and have fine captions
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