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Qwen 2.5 Max vs. DeepSeek V3 (R1) Benchmark

Hi Everyone, I would like to compare Qwen 2.5 Max with DeepSeek V3 (R1) with benchmark details.

Qwen 2.5 Max vs. DeepSeek V3 (R1) Benchmark: Introduction

With the rapid advancements in AI, the battle between leading language models continues to intensify. Alibaba’sQwen 2.5 Max andDeepSeek V3 (R1) are two of the most powerful AI models competing in this space. In this article, we analyze their benchmark performance across different domains, including reasoning, coding, general knowledge, and real-world tasks.

We leverage publicly available benchmark data to compare these models and visualize their results in easy-to-understand charts.


Benchmark Comparisons

To ensure a fair and structured comparison, we evaluate the models across multiple benchmarks, includingArena-Hard, MMLU-Pro, GPQA-Diamond, LiveCodeBench, and LiveBench.

BenchmarkQwen 2.5 MaxDeepSeek V3 R1Difference
Arena-Hard (Preference Benchmark)89.485.5+3.9
MMLU-Pro (Knowledge & Reasoning)76.175.9+0.2
GPQA-Diamond (General Knowledge QA)60.159.1+1.0
LiveCodeBench (Coding Ability)38.737.6+1.1
LiveBench (Overall Capabilities)62.260.5+1.7

Key Insights:

  1. Qwen 2.5 Max dominates across all benchmarks but with relatively small margins, except inArena-Hard, where it outperforms DeepSeek V3 by 3.9 points.
  2. The models performalmost identically in knowledge and reasoning tasks (MMLU-Pro, 76.1 vs. 75.9).
  3. For general knowledge queries (GPQA-Diamond), Qwen 2.5 Max leads by 1 point, showing better factual consistency.
  4. Coding ability (LiveCodeBench) is slightly stronger in Qwen 2.5 Max (38.7 vs. 37.6).
  5. Overall capabilities (LiveBench) give Qwen 2.5 Max a 1.7-point lead, showing that it generalizes better across tasks.

Analysis of Key Benchmarks

1. Arena-Hard (Preference Benchmark)

  • Measures how well AI aligns with human preferences.
  • Qwen 2.5 Max scored89.4,3.9 points higher than DeepSeek V3.
  • This suggestsstronger fine-tuning and instruction-following capabilities in Qwen 2.5 Max.

2. MMLU-Pro (Knowledge & Reasoning)

  • Qwen 2.5 Max (76.1) and DeepSeek V3 (75.9) are nearly identical, showing that both models have similar knowledge and logical reasoning abilities.
  • These results indicate thatDeepSeek has caught up with Qwen in traditional knowledge-based benchmarks.

3. GPQA-Diamond (General Knowledge QA)

  • Measures performance onfact-based question answering.
  • Qwen 2.5 Max leads by 1 point (60.1 vs. 59.1), indicating slightly better factual consistency.
  • Both models perform significantly lower here than in other categories, highlighting the challenge of answering long-form factual questions reliably.

4. LiveCodeBench (Coding Ability)

  • Assesses the ability of models to generate and execute functional code.
  • Qwen 2.5 Max leads by 1.1 points (38.7 vs. 37.6).
  • The difference suggests thatQwen has been fine-tuned better for code generation tasks.

5. LiveBench (Overall Capabilities)

  • This benchmark evaluates a model's ability across multiple domains.
  • Qwen 2.5 Max leads by 1.7 points (62.2 vs. 60.5), confirming its better generalization capabilities.

Key Takeaways: Qwen 2.5 Max vs. DeepSeek V3 R1

  1. Qwen 2.5 Max outperforms DeepSeek V3 R1 in every benchmark.
  2. DeepSeek V3 R1 is closing the gap in MMLU-Pro (76.1 vs. 75.9), making it a strong competitor.
  3. Qwen leads significantly in preference alignment (Arena-Hard, 89.4 vs. 85.5).
  4. Both models struggle with factual QA (GPQA-Diamond scores below 61), indicating room for improvement.
  5. For coding tasks, Qwen 2.5 Max holds a small edge, making it a better choice for developers.

Final Verdict: Which Model Should You Choose?

  • If your priority is user alignment and preference-based AI interactions → Qwen 2.5 Max is the better option.
  • If you need strong general reasoning and factual knowledge, both models are similar, but Qwen 2.5 Max has a slight edge.
  • For coding tasks, Qwen 2.5 Max is the better choice.
  • If budget and accessibility matter, DeepSeek V3 R1 is still a highly competitive open-source alternative.

Qwen 2.5 Max vs. DeepSeek V3 (R1) Benchmark: Conclusion

Alibaba’sQwen 2.5 Max emerges as the stronger model in this benchmark comparison, outperformingDeepSeek V3 R1 in all tested categories. However, the margin is small in most benchmarks, andDeepSeek V3 remains a strong alternative, especially for open-source AI enthusiasts.

As AI development continues, the competition between these models will drive improvements in reasoning, factual accuracy, and user alignment, ultimately benefiting researchers, developers, and businesses alike.


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This article will be updated as newer benchmark results emerge. Stay tuned!

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Kimi ki is next benchmark you want to try ..

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Thanks, good to know new models. There are also a couple of different models coming up nowadays. I am following their benchmark reports. If there are enough difference with openai, deepseek etc. I will mention them.

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Go check it out ;)

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Hi, do you know whether Qwen 2.5 Max within the free chat bot is the fully version (so the top tier)? I cannot find this information anywhere

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*full

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Within their chat they stated this is the most powerful LM and it is active in the chat. I find their api documents, and it seems the same with the chat.

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thanks G :]

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