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What is the Difference Between GSM and CDMA?

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Global System for Mobile Communications (GSM) and Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA) are two competing standards in cellular service. They both have derivatives for use with3G phones known as Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) and CDMA2000, respectively. The major difference between the two technologies is how they turn voice data into radio waves and how the carrier connects to the phone. Other differences include the coverage area, the data transfer speeds, and the type of hardware used.

Coverage

Some areas and countries only have one technology available, so users should be sure to review coverage maps before buying a phone. Generally speaking, CDMA is most commonly found in North America and some parts of Asia, while GSM is found in most other places. Some carriers do offer international or "world" phones that can work with both, but if the phone is going to be used predominantly in one area, it may make sense just to get one that's tied to one type.

Data Transfer Speed

Both technologies can be used with 3G standard phones, but 3G GSM speeds can be faster than 3G CDMA speeds, which can make a big difference for those who use their phones for social networking,email and streaming video. The fastest 3G standard used with CDMA2000 isEV-DO Rev B., which has downstream data rates of about 15.67 Megabits per second (Mbit/s). The fastest standard available with UMTS is HSPA+, with downstream speeds of up to 28 Mbit/s.

Hardware

GSM phones and CDMA phones also use different types of smart cards known as Universal Integrated Circuit Cards (UICC). These are small removable cards that can be used to store information like a contact list and activate, interchange, and upgrade phones without carrier intervention as long as the phone is unlocked. This means that the carrier makes it possible for phone to work even if the end user removes and changes the card. Though both types can be sold locked, this is more common with CDMA phones.

UICCs can be programmed to work with either GSM or CDMA and their derivatives, or with both. Those that only work with GSM phones are called Subscriber Identity Module (SIM) cards and those that only work with CDMA phones are called CDMA2000 Subscriber Identity Module (CSIM) cards. There are also a few types of UICCs that are programmed to work with GSM, UMTS, CDMA, and CDMA2000, including CSIM/USIM cards and Removable User Identity Module (R-UIM) cards.

Roaming

Generally speaking, both networks have fairly concentrated coverage in major cities and along major highways. GSM carriers, however, have roaming contracts with other GSM carriers, allowing wider coverage of more rural areas, generally speaking, often without roaming charges to the customer. CDMA networks may not cover rural areas as well, and though they may contract with GSM cells for roaming in more rural areas, the charge to the customer can be significantly higher.

International Roaming

Some GSM and CDMA carriers offer international roaming, which means users can still use their phones when traveling abroad. To work internationally, the phone has to be a quad-band phone, which means that it works with frequencies of 850, 900, 1800, and 1900MHz. Additionally, the phone does have to be unlocked and the user does have to be trying to use a network that exists in the country, which is sometimes more difficult to do with CDMA since fewer countries have CDMA networks. If the phone is unlocked and there is a network present, though, then users can buy a UICC with minutes and a local number in the country in which they're traveling to avoid paying international rates.

4G

Things get a little bit more complicated when it comes to phones with4G. Most US cellular carriers use CDMA. 4G phones generally useLTE (Long Term Evolution), a high speed wirelessbroadband technology. In most of the world, GSM is preferred and 4G phones with LTE outside of the US use this service. In the US, however, US cellular carriers offering 4G phones have made the switch to LTE on the CDMA service. It is possible to determine which service asmartphone uses with the model number of the phone. Phone manufacturers or the cellular carrier can clarify this information. As of 2014, users in the US are most likely using CDMA. With the exception of countries like Russia and Japan, which continue to use CDMA like the US, most other countries in the world use GSM for 4G.

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Byanon926444 — On Jan 18, 2014

@anon350633: I'm a cell tower foreman. Although I work in Florida now, I was all over the NE a few months ago.

I've worked for all major carriers, and have seen a lot! Brace yourself my friend. Most people who work in my industry, are in fact "Two fries short of a happy meal." It is appalling what is done to get these sites up and running as fast as humanly possible, in some cases if the insertion loss max is 1.5, and the actual loss is 1.5-1.8..."well, they can't see it from their house".

Among a lot of other issues, in response to your CDMA issue, be thankful you have any service at all. I've been on a tower, with an AT&T 3G phone, setting up the new 4G equipment (note: no service was turned off, or nested at this time) and only had two bars. I was right behind the antenna! If only companies would hire competent people who take pride in their work, but alas, this costs more money due to more hours spent working on the sites.

Byanon220846 — On Oct 09, 2011

My wife and I are retired. We travel fairly frequently. We had Sprint for years and were happy with the service. However, I got tired of paying $120/mo. for our months at home when we never used the cell phones. Also, our cdma phones would not work in Europe or Australia.

We dropped Sprint, and bought two unlocked Nokia GSM smartphones. We also bought prepaid TruPhone GSM sim cards with a UK phone number and a U.S. phone number. TruPhone rides on either AT&T or T-Mobile in the U.S. and on other providers in Europe and Australia at reasonable rates. In the U.S., we pay $0.17 per minute voice and $0.12 to send a text message. No monthly fee.

We have been very happy with TruPhone service and would recommend the service for anyone tired of paying monthly fees for unused service.

Byanon172774 — On May 04, 2011

CDMA is garbage to me. Verizon is powerful only because of commercial success. The CMA technology is faulty by nature, as the network grows, the signal quality and call quality go down.

With GSM, it's true that security will be a problem, since all someone has to do is find what frequency you are running, but with UTMS most of those problems are "improved".

Personally, what I'm happy to see is the growing market of free service like OpenBTS, when people can manufacture there own SIMs and personally select what band to run on will be the day for me. For now I'm sticking to ATT, never had dropped calls, or bad sound quality like I did on Verizon. The real answer for anyone deciding what to get is to personally check out how each service runs in your area. No one can say "This is what you should run" Its crap. You should get the one with 1. best sound quality 2. best reception 3. fastest internet 4. no dropped calls, and this can only be decided on what company has invested their money to build towers in your area for optimum coverage.

For me in Detroit, MI, it happens to be ATT. And also take into account if you do a lot of traveling, then GSM would be the way to go.

I've traveled all over Europe and Canada and never had a coverage problem with my GSM Samsung Captivate Galaxy S(SGH-I897). Plus these days Wifi is everywhere, so I'm almost never connected to my 3G. So for me, investing in 4G LTE is not worth it at all, considering most people have wireless routers at home.

Byanon161409 — On Mar 19, 2011

All this very interesting, but doesn't help much with deciding what cell company to go with. I read several posts about how wonderful verizon is. It all depends on how close you are to one of their towers, apparently.

We were with verizon and had terrible service, so they let us out of our contract and we went to Alltel. Now, verizon bought Alltel (in our area, anyway) and for a while, service didn't change noticeably. But then, apparently, something happened to the Alltel towers in our area and verizon can't be bothered to fix them, so they are letting us out of our contract (again!)

Problem is, I have no clue which, if any, carrier will be any better. I don't really know if this GSM/CDMA debate has any bearing on my problem or not. I like the phone I have (LG nv3) but from reading above, I guess I can't use it on another network?

Byanon158386 — On Mar 07, 2011

No question: an unlocked multiband WiFi enabled GSM phone is without question the way to go. I use it from Canada to Chile, from Los Angeles to Bermuda, from London to Dubai and all over the South Pacific: read Tonga, Tahiti, Cook Islands, Samoa, New Zealand, Salomon Islands, Truk, Palau. In fact, bloody everywhere! Either buy local chips and use the local networks (temporary local number), as I did in Nuku'alofa (Tonga), Dubai (UAE) and so on, or use their provider that connects to yours (automatic) and pay the international rate on your home number (stupid).

Once you have Skype downloaded to your phone (and Google Talk) and/or an Internet telephone provider (there are a ton), then as you travel the world and pass through free WiFi networks (Starbucks Canada, Dubai Airport) or ones you pay a fee for, you can use these apps to call anyone in the world for between 2 cents a minute and $2 a minute, depending on whether you're calling a land line or a mobile and in which country they reside. I made a 2 hour call to Tahiti from Dubai (can't get much more expensive than that) using my Nokia E66 Wifi phone sitting at home using Net Telephone Internet service provider for about $30. This would have been a King's ransom on a pay network. Would have been even cheaper on Skype.

Byanon147321 — On Jan 28, 2011

I live on the east coast of the US and have family on the west coast. We all have verizon. I get coverage everywhere with it and have had it over five years, and in that time, coverage has gotten a lot better. So, in my opinion, any phone with verizon especially an LG will work nationwide without a problem.

I have had T-Mobile and Cingular, now At&t, and both had horrible coverage. Verizon works in the country and the city my only complaint is the price, hence Straight Talk. It's a tracfone on the verizon network through Walmart; great coverage and 100 percent unlimited for $45 a month!

Again, I have had phones with all four service providers I mentioned above and a few more. Also, I've had primarily contract phones through these networks but also some prepaids and let me tell you, that has no bearing on coverage. VZW prepaid and Verizon plans get the exact same coverage. To recap, I've tried GSM(T-Mobile, Cingular, Straight Talk, TracFone and SafeLink (the later three are sister corps), and CDMA (Cricket, Verizon, and Alltel --now owned by Verizon) and traveled all over the country with them.

The CDMA phones get better nationwide coverage overall, but the GSM phones are much cheaper (except TracFone). I would estimate at least 90 percent of the people I know have Verizon, and I know a lot of people.

Byanon128125 — On Nov 18, 2010

Very western World Article. I live in Canada and in Eastern Europe. In Russia, I now have 4G with GSM. My limitations were huge until Telus released the BlackBerry 9700 Bold in Canada, and I unlocked it online.

For years I was able to use my Russian bought Nokias in all countries. But the Canadian and American phones only work in Canada and America, unless you unlock them online.

If you travel (as I do) and get out of that western world mind set is the best thing. GSM is the most functional and easily interchangeable thing going. And 4G is amazing on the GSM network in Russia. Ten times faster than any cellular modem service I have used in the Western world. So when will we see 4G in the west? Who knows? But in Russia, I have had 4G on the Yota Network for almost two years now.

Byanon62558 — On Jan 27, 2010

"135 It is not a question of opinion but a matter of fact that CDMA is a much stronger and clearer signal."

Sorry but that's crap. Signal strength and coverage is determined by the number of base stations and the power level they transmit at. CDMA/TDMA (GSM is TDMA) simply refers to the modulation - how you carry multiple phone calls over a given bandwidth.

I took my GSM phone to New York and Miami, and got a perfect signal, as I do in Prague, Budapest, Paris, London, Munich, Beijing, Shanghai, Istanbul, the Maldives, Sri Lanka, Moscow -- even Cuba (although no roaming agreement there so couldn't use it).

Try using a CDMA phone anywhere in Europe and you'll get zero coverage. Nada.

CDMA coverage is better than GSM in the USA? Of course it is, it has been around a decade longer! The USA was simply very slow to adopt GSM. They did so recently so coverage is limited (but expanding).

Note the USA tried to force a CDMA network on Iraq to benefit American companies rather than the Iraqi people, never mind that all the surrounding countries use GSM so would have been incompatible. They lost that argument though, and in the end GSM won even there.

Byanon61011 — On Jan 17, 2010

It is not a question of opinion but a matter of fact that CDMA is a much stronger and clearer signal. The only thing that GSM has to offer in terms of coverage over CDMA is the fact that it has been around much longer and therefore a lot of parts of the world still use it so you may not have cdma coverage worldwide.

The reason that newer networks use CDMA is simple - it is more advanced technology. This isn't a chevy vs ford vs dodge argument, like some of you want it to be. It is more like a pentium 3 PC vs a Pentium 4 pc. One is old technology ( gsm - Pentium 3 ) and one is newer faster and stronger ( cdma - pentium 4 in my analogy ).

I sell both gsm and cdma services for a living - Stick to GSM if you need coverage worldwide (albeit crappy coverage ) but in the USA cdma is where it is at.

Byanon59787 — On Jan 10, 2010

Does anyone really care whether their phone is GSM / CDMA / WCDMA / 4G ?

To give this some perspective, coverage in your given area is the most important criterium.

If you are stuck with CMDA / GSM and there is no coverage the phone is about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

GSM's world-wide take-up is a result of consumer need and not technical superiority. GSM is a standard of its time (the late '80's / early '90's) and was truly abysmal when launched in the UK in the early '90's. Over time the hardware and software has improved enormously. Any technology takes time to mature.

GSM was implemented to provide International (i.e. world) coverage and is essentially a voice medium with data (i.e.SMS) add-ons. Within Europe this was greeted with open arms, as, previously, different countries had adopted incompatible technologies. The older analog networks were phased out in due course.

Some countries (particularly the US) opted to remain analog until they could evolve their own digital service, which due to later implementation would have better capabilities.

As the internet has risen and the need for fast mobile data rates has evolved (while still needing voice comms) GSM has transitioned into 3G (and eventually 4G). No doubt these technologies will become obsolete, but this misses the point.

GSM will still be the preferred standard for world travellers and is enhanced by 3G. On a local basis it doesn't matter what technology you have as long as you can make/receive phone calls.

Byanon57127 — On Dec 20, 2009

I have been a verizon wireless customer for many years. Before choosing to join this CDMA network I spoke to my computer scientist brother about which network he recommended.

He had tried T-Mobile and Cingular (as it was at the time) and he had extremely negative reviews of the two.

Although T-mobile boasted full coverage where I lived in northern NM it was crap and cingular had a contract with T-mobile using their towers and still coverage was nonexistent.

It's many years later now and I have never been happier with my CDMA network. At one point I was working with a company that sold both Verizon and T-mobile phones (not in the same stores).

While working with the store I made lots of money in commission because of a few factors. One was AT&T was canceling its contract with T-mobile in Northern NM in order to expand its coverage elsewhere and to save money. It canceled everyone with their coverage in this area.

When talking to many of these customers, they admitted that their coverage was bad to begin with. T-mobile still covered this area, however we received many switching customers because they said the coverage was terrible.

Another reason had to do with the fact we got a lot of international customers. This particular town sees of lot of foreign nationals. They would immediately come to Verizon for their coverage during their stay.

French, British, Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Spanish, German etc. These are countries that use primarily GSM.

Ninety-nine percent of this area of New Mexico used a CDMA network because the GSM coverage was inadequate. Eighty percent of these customers used Verizon. CDMA in NM is superior to any GSM carrier.

Throughout NM I have heard complaints about the T-mobile and AT&T coverage. Although AT&T has said to have improved coverage, it really has not become much better. But it's not only in NM that this is the case. I lived in NYC for a period of time and I lived with people who boasted about their GSM phones. Funny thing, on that ancient Verizon phone I got better coverage in all areas and coverage where they had none.

For the international people who chose GSM just for this purpose, I know that there are CDMA phones now offered with CDMA only carriers that do work overseas. They are both GSM and CDMA capable phones. Also when comparing prices with T-mobile international roaming and Verizon international roaming, T-Mobile was way more expensive per minute, sometimes it was twice as much as Verizon. I know this because my boyfriend and I have been trying to get his mom off of T-mobile for some time and I sat down with her comparing the prices.

Also, my parents travel to Europe a lot and use their international Verizon phone over there.

There was a comment earlier about nobody mentioning range differences. It was correct in saying that CDMA towers do have a further range than GSM. I do not know where this article gets the information saying GSM has better coverage in rural areas. This range, despite CDMA customers *not* having to pay for roaming (we rarely roam anyway) helps to increase coverage in most rural areas. NM is mostly rural. So how do you explain that CDMA coverage is better with this original premise in mind?

I have never been a fan of the GSM network. Whenever I have had to borrow someone's phone because my battery died or I simply forgot it, I always had lots of trouble with them from dropped calls, to not being able to pick up a signal at all. I will admit, however, that coverage in a lot of ways is based off what company you are using, how expensive they are and how many towers they are using.

For instance cricket, which uses CDMA, does not have full coverage outside any city. This is what allows them to keep their prices as low as they are offering unlimited calling and texting to any network including GSM network phones.

Byanon49283 — On Oct 19, 2009

Answer to - anon5910[quote]2nd: Just because Europe has mandated GSM as their technology, doesn't mean all of the world GSM is used. If you live in North/South America CDMA is the most dominated technology with more coverage than GSM Carriers. Even if you are in Brazil, US, Canada...etc. Most Asian countries have adopted CDMA! South Korea, All CDMA, All new Carriers in Japan CDMA,....Australia, New Zealand....cdma. It's growing, and growing quick because CDMA can handle 3-5x the amount of customers per tower and at Data rate GSM cannot achieve.[/quote]This is not true. I live in South America and here we have GSM not cdma like you said.[quote]GSM is evolving to CDMA! What is wrong with you people? Most countries have already mandated that WCDMA is the global standard, because the standard GSM network can't handle what they have already.[/quote]WCDMA is not a cdma technology. That's an evolution of GSM. This same text talks about it!Chile has 3 mobile operators and all of them work with GSM technology and from there you can talk with all south america using roaming.Greets

Byanon36338 — On Jul 11, 2009

GSM has many bands ranging from 850mhz (or below) right thought to 2100mhz. The lower the band, the farther it travels. The higher the band shorter range but better quality.

Telstar Australia has switched from CDMA to GSM 850 to gain coverge over CDMA (didn't work yet) and VODAFONE AU & NZ run GSM

note i did NOT say 3G as this is NOT just GSM, 3G MEANS 3rd generation and both AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND run 3rd gen with add on = 3.5G as they call it (NEXT G on telstra)

Video calls STARTED on 3rd gen and ARE live

BOTH cdma AND gsm are digital, Anolog is DEAD

PLEASE note edge,hspda and Wcdma are ONLY add ons to exisiting NETWORKS not THE network

traveling the world? FORGET GSM AND CDMA, GET SATTELITE AS WORLD WIDE COVERAGE SAME NUMBER NO SIM REQUIRD AND ONLY ONE BILL = NO HASSSELS

please check your details BEFORE you right them

now WHICH network is BETTER? NONE their all slow,overpriced with no or low coverage

how ever i choice gsm QUAD BAND PHONES so i can switch networks in australia and new zealand

windows mobile has EASY flash systems to change the SOFTWARE to suit service providers, This way i get best coverage OR price but i STAY on GSM (if phone goes flat ANY gsm phone will do to make calls)

ps wimax is POSS 4th gen but not classifidy as that YET to my knowledge

Byanon26554 — On Feb 15, 2009

I live in a rural area and we had two choices then, verizon (cdma) or cellular one (gsm), i picked verizon bc cellular one was not well known to me anyway had nothing but problems with verizon.

we can't get service in our local walmart. i couldn't even get a signal at my grandmother's house. she lives in nahant, Massachusetts. a little island contected to the main land by a cos way. if i wanted to make a call i had to walk across to the beach and i was lucky if i got a call through.

about 5 years later, i paid the bill over the phone and the canceled my account and kept demanding us to pay the bill for six months afterward.

then we switched to cellular one and it was great better coverage than verizon and the walmart i mentioned earlier shut down and they built a walmart super center. with verizon, as soon as you get in the door you lose the signal. cellular one got five bars all over the store and i have people staring at me when i make a call bc most people in my town have verizon. then at&t bought out cellular one and i still have the great service, but a more well known name. lol.

more and more people are getting rid of verizon and switching to at&t here.

with verizon the network didn't do it for me. we had a lot of dropped calls the signal was terrible. the signal didn't penetrate a lot of brick, steel, etc buildings like Cellular One and at&t do.

its kind of ironic how a lot of people complain the gsm doesn't have good coverage in rural areas, but in my area it has better coverage that cdma lol

Byanon18026 — On Sep 12, 2008

I have not heard anyone mention the range difference on CDMA/GSM networks? There are many arguments about data speed, software, and countries, but not much about the tech specifically.

The reason that one person above was getting better service with a CDMA phone in the sticks could be (I read somewhere) that CDMA towers can get a signal to 10-12 miles, while GSM was only 2-4 miles. Some field test in Kansas proved the theory.

Would this be because of a switch to AMPS at that distance, and the power of the CDMA phone itself is putting out more wattage?

I have noticed that the GSM phone technology is getting insane with watch phones that can hold 4 GB of video, too. CDMA's don't have anything like this. So, is it because it takes a more powerful tech on a CDMA?

Can anyone verify the range difference, and why?

ByWatchmanz — On Jul 01, 2008

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>2nd: Just because Europe has mandated GSM as their technology, doesn't mean all of the world GSM is used. If you live in North/South America CDMA is the most dominated technology with more coverage than GSM Carriers. Even if you are in Brazil, US, Canada...etc. Most Asian countries have adopted CDMA! South Korea, All CDMA, All new Carriers in Japan CDMA,....Australia, New Zealand....cdma. It's growing, and growing quick because CDMA can handle 3-5x the amount of customers per tower and at Data rate GSM cannot achieve.

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This is rubbish. As someone who lives in New Zealand and travel routinely through Australia and Asia I can tell you that most networks are GSM. The network in NZ that is CDMA is Telecom New Zealand and they are rapidly losing market share to Vodafone (GSM), so much so that they are looking at going GSM in the near future. Most business people who travel the world uses GSM because they can get a local number easily without renting phones etc.

Byariadne27 — On Jun 27, 2008

I am visually impaired and am searching for a phone company that will provide me with the best options for my vision. Unfortunately, AT& T offers 3 phones..Pantech Duo, Nokia 75 and Motorola Q which will take the Mobile Speaks software so that the phone will perform commands without my having to see what I'm doing. These are not great options for many who have some but not a lot of sight left. I am at the end of my contract with AT& T and wonder if I should stay with them but the determining factor, I believe, comes down to the Symbian OS and what phones I can use with what companies. Am I looking for a needle in the haystack or can I use Mobile Speaks or Nuance/s Talks within any company...At& T or Verizon. Verizon's answer is the LG VX8350 and although it has its good points, is not built on a Symbian OS and you cannot use Mobile Speaks or Nuance with it. Any suggestions for a vi user? Thanks

ByKonradRoeder — On Apr 18, 2008

anon5910,

You have quite a lot of your facts confused. Let me clarify a few of them for the readers.

>1st: CDMA is a much more superior technology, Yes it is all digital and extremely more secure than GSM in terms of eavesdropping and hack/clone capability. Yes, this still happens in 2007.

CDMA and GSM are both digital. AMPS, the analog standard, has been completely phased out. Nothing is 100% secure. Both CDMA and GSM are subject to being hacked.

>2nd: Just because Europe has mandated GSM as their technology, doesn't mean all of the world GSM is used. If you live in North/South America CDMA is the most dominated technology with more coverage than GSM Carriers. Even if you are in Brazil, US, Canada...etc. Most Asian countries have adopted CDMA! South Korea, All CDMA, All new Carriers in Japan CDMA,....Australia, New Zealand....cdma. It's growing, and growing quick because CDMA can handle 3-5x the amount of customers per tower and at Data rate GSM cannot achieve.

More nonsense. Some carriers decided to go with GSM others with CDMA. 218 countries have GSM service. 22 countries support CDMAone. at&t, the largest carrier in the US and T-Mobile (they're German) use GSM. T-Mobile grows by more than 1.3 million subs a quarter now. On the CDMA side, Verizon, used to be the largest carrier, is now second behind at&t. They constantly have to remind us "it's the network" and show you how many people it takes to maintain the network. Sprint is losing customers at around 1.5 million per quarter. It seems like they have a ghost town on their hands. They too use CDMA. I see a little pattern forming here.

>3rd: GSM you might be able to move a chip from phone to phone...but first you have to ask yourself if you're living somewhere like the states...why are you switching back and forth on phones that much. Also with carriers like Verizon, you can switch via phone/internet in less than a minute and your new phone will be working with the ability to have all your contacts moved over WIRELESSLY...and saved to your account online! Your GSM phone doesn't automatically upload contacts daily wirelessly. Sucks for GSM people if they lose there phone.

Consumers like new phones about every 2 years or so just like they update their computers, laptops, operating systems, game consoles, cars, TVs,... I take it you are still using the same brick you had in 1995 when they invented CDMA?

>4th: GSM is evolving to CDMA! What is wrong with you people? Most countries have already mandated that WCDMA is the global standard, because the standard GSM network can't handle what they have already.

Not exactly. You are confusing upper layer protocols with underlying RF modulation and channel access schemes. Both 3G CDMA (1xRTT, EVDO) and 3G GSM (UMTS, HSPA) use the same RF modulation and access scheme WCDMA. Both network handle their upper layers in a different way, but there really are no huge earth shaking differences.

>5th: There are very very few phones that work on all the networks, and there is no such thing as every single network.

>You have: GSM 450(mostly india)/700(soon)/800/900/1800/1700(soon)/1900 and now (WCDMA for GSM) 2100mhz

>You have CDMA: 450(poland/norway/portugal/sweden/demmark/iceland)/700(soon)/800/1900mhz.

>Most GSM tri/quad band phones only support up to 4!

>Quad Band CDMA Phones: only up to 4!

I think you are confusing a whole lot of issues here. 1) RF spectrum 2) RF Modulation and channel access and 3) upper layer protocols.

You are entirely right. There is no swiss army knife of mobile phones.

>6th: Network Speeds is where CDMA spanks for downloading/uploading and surfing the web:

>3G-CDMA EVDO Sprint/Verizon 2.4mb/s Max download, avg 400-700kbps

>Upload: 384kbps max, average 160-240kbps

>3G-CDMA EVDO-Rev A Sprint/Verizon 3.1mb/s Max download, avg 500-850kbps

>Upload: 1.8mbps Max, average 220-580kbps

GSM's 3G HSPA has speeds up to 14 mb/s. at&t and T-Mobile are there, if not, working on it.

>4G-CDMA EVDO - Verizon LTE (WiMax possibly sprint) Think of your WIFI at home with super fast connection on steroids: 100mbps Download, 50mbps upload!

Yes, and GSM carriers will be using the same technology - LTE... and your point is?

>both Carriers and many others around the world launching in 2008!

My prediction: Sprint-Nextel will be bankrupt. They can't afford any Wi-Max plans. Clearwire has already had layoffs too. I don't see it happening.

And Verizon will still need to run around and send people around town testing their network "Can you hear me?" or sending a whole town's worth of repair crews behind users to fix the phones.

>2.5G-GSM EDGE Tmobile/ATT(cingular) Download: 1mb (8packet GSM, most areas are 4packet, which is half the speed), average is 80kbps -120kbps,

>3G-GSM UMTS ATT/Cingular (not available with Tmobile) 2.1mbps (no matter on packet always up too 2.1) average 300-500kbps.

>Upload: 120-240kbps.

>4G-GSM Next evolution of UMTS-HSDPA, not beginning til late 2009! UMTS caps at 14.4mbps, and 3.6mbps upload.

yea ... yea ... These are just numbers being thrown around. Did you ever get 54Mbps on your Wi-Fi?

>Think about all this when you see a network like KDDI Japan, to launch really high quality Video with sound calling LIVE over their network. It's not a possibility on GSM, Wonder why they are stealing tons of subscribers from DoCoMo Japan.

No one watches TV or movies on their phone. Verizon tried it and got out of the business.

>Read facts, work in the industry and do some research before you post on websites like this! I seriously think you should.

ByKonradRoeder — On Apr 18, 2008

In cellular service there are two main competing network technologies: Global System for Mobile Communications (GSM) and Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA). Cellular carriers including at&t wireless, Verizon, Sprint-Nextel, T-Mobile and smaller carriers use one or the other. Understanding the difference between GSM and CDMA will allow you to choose a carrier that uses the preferable network technology for your needs.

The GSM Association is an international organization of cellular carriers founded in 1987, provide coverage worldwide using the European ETSI wireless standard GSM. CDMA, a competing US standard originally designed by Qualcomm in the United States is used mainly in America and parts of Asia by other carriers. T-Mobile and at&t follow the GSM standard and Verizon and Sprint use the CDMA standard. Nextel uses a third standard developed by Motorola called iDEN. There are camps that firmly believe their architecture and protocols are superior to the other. That said, to the non-invested consumer who simply wants bottom line information to make a choice, the following considerations may be helpful.

Byanon6985 — On Jan 14, 2008

To the person who posted "To the last comment about GSM being superior to CDMA because it's all digital", you really need to check your information.

Firstly, many CDMA networks around the world are in the process of being replaced with 3GSM (WCDMA, UTMS or whatever you want to call it) networks including the Telstra CDMA network in Australia and the Telecom New Zealand CDMA networks that you mention.

Also, you mention LTE under Verizon. Verizon has announced that they will eventually move over to LTE which is actually a 3GSM based standard and yet you have lumped it in under Qualcomm CDMA.

In addition, DoCoMo in Japan uses a system called FOMA which was used as the basis for the development of the 3GSM (UMTS) system not the old 2G GSM standard.

Furthermore, at the moment 3GSM HSUPA networks kick butt over CDMA EV-DO Rev A networks for data uploads and downloads. However, as this is a new upgrade to the 3GSM standards it has not been widely rolled out.

One of the big advantages that CDMA had over GSM is that the upgrades from CDMAone to CDMA2000 1xRTT and EVDO were all relatively simple, and mainly software based, while there was a complete change to the air interface between GSM and 3GSM. Hence networks had to basically build new networks to upgrade to 3GSM, slowing down the rollout of 3GSM services compared to CDMA2000 EVDO.

Byanon5910 — On Dec 10, 2007

To the last comment about GSM being superior to CDMA because it's all digital.

1st: CDMA is a much more superior technology, Yes it is all digital and extremely more secure than GSM in terms of eavesdropping and hack/clone capability. Yes, this still happens in 2007.

2nd: Just because Europe has mandated GSM as their technology, doesn't mean all of the world GSM is used. If you live in North/South America CDMA is the most dominated technology with more coverage than GSM Carriers. Even if you are in Brazil, US, Canada...etc. Most Asian countries have adopted CDMA! South Korea, All CDMA, All new Carriers in Japan CDMA,....Australia, New Zealand....cdma. It's growing, and growing quick because CDMA can handle 3-5x the amount of customers per tower and at Data rate GSM cannot achieve.

3rd: GSM you might be able to move a chip from phone to phone...but first you have to ask yourself if you're living somewhere like the states...why are you switching back and forth on phones that much. Also with carriers like Verizon, you can switch via phone/internet in less than a minute and your new phone will be working with the ability to have all your contacts moved over WIRELESSLY...and saved to your account online! Your GSM phone doesn't automatically upload contacts daily wirelessly. Sucks for GSM people if they lose there phone.

4th: GSM IS EVOLVING TO CDMA! What is wrong with you people? Most countries have already mandated that WCDMA is the global standard, because the standard GSM network can't handle what they have already.

5th: There are very very few phones that work on all the networks, and there is no SUCH THING as every single network.

You have: GSM 450(mostly india)/700(soon)/800/900/1800/1700(soon)/1900 and now (WCDMA for GSM) 2100mhz

You have CDMA: 450(poland/norway/portugal/sweden/demmark/iceland)/700(soon)/800/1900mhz.

Most GSM tri/quad band phones only support up to 4!

Quad Band CDMA Phones: ONLY UP TO 4!

6th: Network Speeds is where CDMA spanks for downloading/uploading and surfing the web:

3G-CDMA EVDO Sprint/Verizon 2.4mb/s Max download, avg 400-700kbps

Upload: 384kbps max, average 160-240kbps

3G-CDMA EVDO-Rev A Sprint/Verizon 3.1mb/s Max download, avg 500-850kbps

Upload: 1.8mbps Max, average 220-580kbps

4G-CDMA EVDO - Verizon LTE (WiMax possibly sprint) Think of your WIFI at home with super fast connection on steroids: 100mbps Download, 50mbps upload!

BOTH Carriers and many others around the world launching in 2008!

2.5G-GSM EDGE Tmobile/ATT(cingular) Download: 1mb (8packet GSM, most areas are 4packet, which is half the speed), average is 80kbps -120kbps,

3G-GSM UMTS ATT/Cingular (not available with Tmobile) 2.1mbps (no matter on packet always up too 2.1) average 300-500kbps.

Upload: 120-240kbps.

4G-GSM Next evolution of UMTS-HSDPA, not beginning til late 2009! UMTS caps at 14.4mbps, and 3.6mbps upload.

Think about all this when you see a network like KDDI Japan, to launch really high quality Video with sound calling LIVE over their network. It's not a possibility on GSM, Wonder why they are stealing tons of subscribers from DoCoMo Japan.

Read facts, work in the industry and do some research before you post on websites like this!

ByGr1zz — On Aug 13, 2007

Re: CDMA in 2008

Some companies (notably OnStar) are dropping subscribers that have AMPS-only (analog) equipment on January 1st, 2008. The current story is that some of the cell networks are going to shut down the older analog system, in the belief that the newer digital systems have enough coverage.

Many (not all) CDMA phones also have AMPS capability, a very useful thing where CDMA coverage is weak and AMPS towers are still active. In fact, some phones (like the Audiovox Thera, which is CDMA-only) were considered bad for voice use because they couldn't fall back to AMPS when there were gaps in CDMA coverage. Thankfully, CDMA coverage is a lot better now.

Some people could be confused, thinking that if the AMPS network goes down, their CDMA phone won't work. This is not the case. The AMPS network was an added bonus, but your CDMA phone will still work on the CDMA network. You may even be able to get longer battery life by setting your phone to digital-only operation.

By the way, AMPS stood for Advanced Mobile Phone System, and functioned similarly to the TACS system in Europe. There were other evolutionary upgrades to AMPS. First, they added extra channels when more spectrum became available. Then there was NAMPS, Narrow AMPS, which divided each AMPS channel in thirds, and brought the potential number of channels to over 2400. NAMPS could handle three times as many calls as AMPS, just like TDMA and GSM. Then came DAMPS, Digital AMPS, but by that time, TDMA and GSM had already taken hold. And for comparison, a CDMA network can handle more than 3 times the calls of a NAMPS, GSM, or TDMA network, which in turn, could handle 3 times as many calls as the AMPS network.

It makes me wonder why there are places that still use TDMA, and how GSM ever managed to take hold in the first place, with their reduced call density.

ByGr1zz — On Apr 29, 2007

Re anon130: Sorry, it's kind of like the difference between VHS and Beta video tapes... while to the user they do pretty much the same thing, their insides are quite different. It would be like converting a car to run on railroad tracks. That said, there are some trucks that do run on rail tracks, and there are also some CDMA phones that will work on GSM, so you can add a GSM SIM card and talk away. An example of this is the Samsung SCH-i830. You will pay much more for it than a regular phone, but will work on either system.

Re: kree8: For a CDMA phone to work on the network, there are three things that need to be set up. First, the network operator (in your case, Cricket) needs to add the phone's serial number to your account, so they will know who to charge for the calls. Second, you (or your friendly neighborhood Cricket service person) needs to change the MIN (Mobile Identity Number, effectively your phone number) in the phone's NAM (Number Assignment Module). How it's done depends on the phone, but usually it involves picking a hidden choice from a menu or entering a strange number, after which the phone will show a screen with the current numbers, and give you the option to change them. The final part is the PRL (Preferred Roaming List), which is effectively a list of the cell phone towers that your phone should use first, so that you don't get roaming charges when your company has a tower in range.

You might wonder why your phone number has to go in your phone, when your cell company already knows that it's your phone. Well, most phones let you have more than one number, set up with different cell companies, and let you choose which one is to be used. Only one number can be in use at a time. It is useful, for example, if your office gives you a cell phone, and you want to use your own number for personal calls, nights, or weekends, and only want to carry one phone. Of course, the cell companies wouldn't want you using *their* phone on someone else's network, so some of them use a 6-digit code, called a MSL (Master Subsidy Lock), to keep people from adding or changing the phone number on the phone. Some companies (like Sprint and Telus)won't let your phone on their network unless they have a record of them selling that phone's serial number.

Things should get easier in the future, since back in 2002 there was something introduced called a R-UIM (a Removable User Identity Module), a little card that looks a lot like the SIM cards the GSM people have. It has a serial number that represents your account, and all the other information needed for your phone to work. You can put your R-UIM card in any compatible phone, and suddenly, it works just like the phone you took the card from. Additionally, the R-UIM card will work in GSM phones to let you roam in GSM areas, as long as your cell company has a roaming agreement in place with the local service provider.

Re: anon423. Sure, it's true. Before you go to Korea, though, you probably need to get a SIM Lock code from your current carrier to unlock your phone, so when you do get a Korean SIM card, your phone will let you use it. You should be able to pick up prepaid SIM cards or sign a contract with a Korean GSM carrier to get a new SIM card. Of course, you will still have to pay your Cingular bill each month, so it may be cheaper for you to pay the $175 to get out of your contract, but don't forget to wait until after you get the code to unlock your phone.

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