This page in a nutshell: Assume good faith even if it kills you.
Frequent references toWP:AGF are a sure sign a user is in good faith.
Frequent references toWP:NPA are a sure sign a user cares deeply about politeness and are themselves very courteous.
If a person edits Wikipedia largely or solely to promote one side of a contentious issue, they're likely to have spent years of their life studying it. Therefore they're almost certainly an asset to the project.
Patriotism is a virtue. Wikipedia needs to encourage virtuous people to edit as much as possible here, especially to add material about their own country.
The best way to make established users more civil is to block them for a while. (Ask an admin to do it if you're not one yourself.) In the rare cases where that doesn't help,[1] you can try putting a civility template on their page, or telling them about the policyWP:CIV, which they may not be aware of.
When people insist that before blocked users can be unblocked, they must apologise, admit their mistakes, agree to learn to avoid previous pitfalls, work to address all of the issues, pave the road, seek redemption, face the music, show that they understand why exactly they were blocked and how right it was that they should be, or show remorse, it's probably not because the insister would like to see ashow trial orritual humiliation.[2] More likely they have some psychiatric training and know how important it is to resolve conflicts and seek reconciliation, and how much better the delinquent would feel afterwards.
The use ofWP:ROPE in a discussion simply means the user wants to give somebody a second chance, not that they enjoy invoking violent metaphors or are out to ambush somebody.
The use ofWP:STICK in a discussion means the user didn't want to bore the reader with all the good arguments they could have added.
The use ofWP:OWN in a discussion doesn't mean the user is all out of real arguments for the version they prefer, it simply means… hmm. Working on that one.
It's good to add a touch of humour to discussions that are threatening to get heated. For instance, references toWP:TROUT will make everybody laugh, thus defusing bad situations.
"Enforcer" phrases such asThe facts are the facts,It's that simple,End of discussion,Simple as that, andPeriod will add force andtruthiness to any statement in any Wikipedia discussion.[3]
Patriotism is often dangerous, leading people to ignore the problems with their own country, to become nationalistic or tribal or xenophobic enough to exclude others or privilege certain people above others, and at worst can end in war. Better reason to edit articles about your own country or province or city are that as a local you have a lot of context about the subject, have access to and have been exposed to a lot of information others don't, and it's probably more interesting for you than others. --Beland (talk)21:58, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Beland. It's more of a guidefor optimists, thanby optimists. I, who wrote it, am not personally much of an optimist. I think patriotism —> nationalism —>tribalism is a major problem on Wikipedia, leading to tendentious editing and intemperate edit wars between, for example, patriotic Pakistanis and patriotic Indians. I also don't much believe that people who sprinkle their comments with acronyms likeAGF orNPA are themselves particularly good-faith-assuming and polite (I think the opposite tends to be true). You'd have to be a pretty fanatical optimist to think so. But if you are, then here's your guide!Bishonen |talk12:01, 2 March 2019 (UTC).[reply]
That's cool that you and Bri published a secret link in invisible text to drama surrounding Cirt crying about hounding in theSignpost. I've accidentally rewritten the Guide, but left that part in (as well as the famous Jimbo block). I think Guide for the Perplexed might be as good a title for the new version as the Optimist's Guide. If you detest the collaborative version, feel free to revert and I'll just quietly slipthe new and imPOVed version into my own space somewhere with a new name. — SashiRolls t ·c12:27, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Assume good faith even if it kills you," on an article describingWP:ROPE, is quite chilling for those of us with African American family members. It's one reason people like me won't post a user page, apply for scholarships or grants that require online documentation, or communicate on-wiki.Oliveleaf4 (talk)
Done -->WP:GfWP. — SashiRolls t ·c13:41, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
