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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For information on retitling files, categories, and other items, see§ When not to use this page.

Before moving a page or requesting a move, please review thearticle titling policy and the guidelines onprimary topics.

Anyautoconfirmed user can move a page using the"Move" option in theediting toolbar; seehow to move a page for more information. If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move,be bold and move the page; however, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

  • Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may beprotected from moves. In such cases, see§ Requesting technical moves.
  • Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made atWP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
  • A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reachconsensus: see§ Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
  • A pageshould not be moved and a new move discussion should not be opened when there is already an open move request on a talk page. Instead, please participate in the open discussion.
  • Unregistered and new (not yetautoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are typically processed after seven days. If consensus supports the move at or after this time, a reviewer will perform it. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time, or closed as "no consensus". SeeWikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move requestas long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with thespirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

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Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

Undiscussed moves

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Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

  • No article exists at the new target title;
  • There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
  • It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not beenin place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you mayrequest a technical move.

Move wars aredisruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted,do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in§ Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Requesting technical moves

Project page to request technical page moves


If you areunable to complete a move for technical reasons, you canrequest a technical move below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."

If you are here because you want an admin to approve of your new article or your proposed page move, you are in the wrong place.

  • If this isyour first article and you want your draft article moved to themainspace, please submit it for review atArticles for creation, by adding the code{{subst:submit}} to the top of thedraft oruser sandbox page instead of listing it here.
  • Because you areautoconfirmed,you canmove most pages yourself. Do not request technical assistance on this page if you can do it yourself.
  • If you needhelp determining whether it's okay to move the page to a different title, then please follow the instructions at the top ofWikipedia:Requested moves.
  • Please make sure you really need technical assistance before making a request here. In particular, if the target page is a redirect back to the source page that has only one revision,you can usually move the page normally.
  • To list a technical request:edit theUncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
    {{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
    This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
  • To request a reversion of a recent undiscussed move: Review the guidelines atWP:RMUM of whether a reversion of an undiscussed move qualifies as uncontroversial and if so,edit theRequests to revert undiscussed moves subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
    {{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
    This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page. Note that in some cases, clerks, such as administrators or page movers may determine that your request for a reversion does not pass the criteria and may move the request to the contested section or open a formal requested move discussion for potentially controversial moves on your behalf.
  • If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to theContested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Considerpinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
  • If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply,create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page. A bot will automatically remove contested requests after 72 hours of inactivity.

Technical requests

Uncontroversial technical requests

Requests to revert undiscussed moves


Contested technical requests

I'm not seeing this as uncontroversial. ConsiderWP:COMMONNAME,WP:NATURAL, and ambiguity concerns, notably withX (social network).162 etc. (talk)21:50, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If ambiguity is a concern, rename it to "X Window System authorization". But "X authorization" is consistent withX resources, for example. There is also already a redirect fromX selection to (incorrect)X Window selection. "X" is the common name for the X Window System – see for example this very article which talks about "X clients", "X servers", "the X display server" and "the X Session Management Protocol".Airopadier (talk)22:56, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Iskandar323 Given the long-term significance ofextermination camp this should be discussed in a proper RMVestrian24Bio14:19, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Vestrian24Bio: It's not a plausible spelling fordeath camp; no one spells it without a space. It could only possibly be an abject typo, which it is not for the proposed target; it is the exact base name. The only function of the current arrangement is to force the pageextermination camp to host a hatnote explaining that this implausible spelling directs to it and redirecting readers to the error-free target.Iskandar323 (talk)15:45, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Previously discussed and not moved[5]; should go through an RM again.Vestrian24Bio13:22, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Previously discussed and not moved[6]; should go through an RM again.Vestrian24Bio13:22, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@The Account 2 Think an RM is better hereVestrian24Bio13:39, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I accept. How can I move this to a RM?The Account 2 (talk)20:58, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Click the "discuss" button in brackets next to the request and the word "move"HurricaneZetaC20:59, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves

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Thediscussion process is used for potentially controversial moves.A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:

  • there has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
  • someone could reasonably disagree with the move.

Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. For technical move requests, such as to correct obvious typographical errors, seeRequesting technical moves. The technical moves procedure can also be used for uncontroversial moves when the requested title is occupied by an existing article.

Do not create a new move request when one is alreadyopen on the same talk page. Instead, consider contributing to the open discussion if you would like to propose another alternative. Multipleclosed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a uniquesection heading.

Do not create a move request to rename one or moreredirects.Redirects cannot be used as current titles in requested moves.

Requesting a single page move

"WP:RSPM" redirects here. For entries on the perennial sources list that start with "M", seeWikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources/5.
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To request a single page move, click on the "Add topic" (or "New section") tab of thetalk page of the article you want moved,without adding a new subject/header, inserting this code:

{{subst:requested move|New name|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.}}

ReplaceNew name with the requested new name of the page (or with a simple question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 16 December 2025" and sign the post for you.

There is no need to edit the article in question. Once the above code is added to the Talk page, a bot will automatically add the following notification at the top of the affected page:

A request that this page title be changed isunder discussion. Pleasedo not move this page until the discussion is closed.

Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such asRequests for comment, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such asGoogle Ngrams andpageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially ourarticle titling policy and theguideline on disambiguation and primary topics.

WikiProjects may subscribe toArticle alerts to receive RM notifications. For example,Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Article alerts/Requested moves istranscluded toWikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography.RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or noticeboard that might be interested in the move request, as long as this notification isneutral.

Single page move on a different talk page

Occasionally, a move request must be made on a talk page other than the talk page of the page to be moved. For example, a request to renameWikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources toWikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing and templates would need to take place atWikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation because the talk page of the project page to be moved,Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources, is a redirect to that centralized discussion page. In this type of case, the requested move should be made using the following code:

{{subst:requested move|reason=(the reason for the page move goes here).|current1=(present title of page to be renamed)|new1=(proposed title of page)}}

The|1= unnamed parameter is not used. The|current1= and|new1= parameters are used similar to multiple page moves described below.

Requesting multiple page moves

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A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. Onone of the talk pages of the affected pages, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether anaming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g.,Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).

To request a multiple page move, edit at thebottom of the talk page of the article you chose for your request,without adding a new header, inserting this code:

{{subst:requested move| current1= Current title of page 1 (this parameter can be omitted for discussions hosted on a page that is proposed to be moved)| new1= New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion| current2= Current title of page 2| new2= New title for page 2| current3= Current title of page 3| new3= New title for page 3| reason= Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.}}
See also:Template:Requested move/extended blank

For example, to propose moving the articlesWikipedia andWiki, put this template onTalk:Wikipedia withcurrent1 set toWikipedia andcurrent2 set toWiki. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article where the template is placed (Talk:Wikipedia). Do not sign the request with~~~~, since the template does this automatically (so if you sign it yourself there will be two copies of your signature at the end of the request). Do not skip pairs of numbers.

RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of all pages that are included in your request except the one hosting the discussion, to call attention to the move discussion that is in progress and to suggest that all discussion for all of the pages included in the request should take place at that one hosting location.

For multi-move discussions hosted on a page which is itself proposed to be moved, it is not necessary to include the|current1=Current title of page 1 for the page hosting the discussion, as its current title can be inferred automatically. Occasionally the discussions for significant multi-move requests may be hosted onWikiProject talk pages or other pages inProject namespace, in which case it is necessary to include|current1= to indicate the first article to be moved.

If you have to update a RM from a single move to multiple moves, you need to add the following parameters to the{{requested move/dated}} template call:

  • |multiple=yes
  • |current1=Current title of page 1

Request all associated moves explicitly

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Please list every move that you wish to have made in your request. For example, if you wish to moveCricket (disambiguation) toCricket because you do not believe the sport is theprimary topic for the search term "Cricket", then you actually want to move two pages, bothCricket (disambiguation)andCricket. Thus you must list proposed titles foreach page affected by your request. For example, you might propose:

If a new title is not proposed for the sport, it is more difficult to achieve consensus for a new title for that article. A move request that does not show what to do with the material at its proposed target, such as:

is incomplete. Such requests may be completed as a request to decide the best new title by discussion.

If a disambiguation page is in the way of a move, the request may be completed as proposing to add (disambiguation).

Template usage examples and notes
Talk page tagText that will be shown (and usage notes)
{{subst:Requested move|new|reason=why}}
links talk edit
Requested move 16 December 2025

It has been proposed in this section thatWikipedia:Requested moves berenamed and moved tonew.
This proposal is for a cross-namespace move from Wikipedia to (Main/Article)namespace.

Abot will list this discussion on therequested moves current discussionssubpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see theclosing instructions). Please base arguments onarticle title policy, and keep discussionsuccinct andcivil.


Please use{{subst:requested move}}. Donot use{{requested move/dated}} directly.

Wikipedia:Requested movesnew – whyExample (talk)08:36, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Use when the proposed new title is given.
Donot sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use thesubst:.
This tag should be placed atthe beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.

{{subst:Requested move|?|reason=why}}
Requested move 16 December 2025

It has been proposed in this section thatWikipedia:Requested moves berenamed and moved somewhere else, with the name being decided below.

Abot will list this discussion on therequested moves current discussionssubpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see theclosing instructions). Please base arguments onarticle title policy, and keep discussionsuccinct andcivil.


Please use{{subst:requested move}}. Donot use{{requested move/dated}} directly.

Wikipedia:Requested moves → ? – whyExample (talk)08:36, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Use when the proposed new title is not known.
Donot sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use thesubst:.
This tag should be placed atthe beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.

{{subst:Requested move|new|reason=why|talk=yes}}
Requested move 16 December 2025

It has been proposed in this section thatWikipedia:Requested moves berenamed and moved tonew.
This proposal is for a cross-namespace move from Wikipedia to (Main/Article)namespace.

Abot will list this discussion on therequested moves current discussionssubpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see theclosing instructions). Please base arguments onarticle title policy, and keep discussionsuccinct andcivil.


Please use{{subst:requested move}}. Donot use{{requested move/dated}} directly.

Wikipedia:Requested movesnew – whyExample (talk)08:36, 16 December 2025‎ (UTC)[reply]

Survey
Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this subsection with*'''Support'''or*'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with~~~~. Sincepolling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into accountWikipedia's policy on article titles.
Discussion
Any additional comments:



This template adds subsections for survey and discussion.
Donot sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use thesubst:
Click the "New Section" tab on the talk page and leave the Subject/headline blank, as the template by default automatically creates the heading.

{{subst:Requested move|new1=x|current2=y|new2=z|reason=why}}
Requested move 16 December 2025

It has been proposed in this section that multiple pages berenamed and moved.

Abot will list this discussion on therequested moves current discussionssubpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see theclosing instructions). Please base arguments onarticle title policy, and keep discussionsuccinct andcivil.


Please use{{subst:requested move}}. Donot use{{requested move/dated}} directly.

– whyExample (talk)08:36, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Donot sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted.
Be sure to use thesubst: and place this tag atthe beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.
Add additional related move requests in pairs (|current3= and |new3=, |current4= and |new4=, etc.).

{{subst:Requested move|new1=?|current2=y|new2=?|reason=why}}
Requested move 16 December 2025

It has been proposed in this section that multiple pages berenamed and moved somewhere else, with the names being decided below.

Abot will list this discussion on therequested moves current discussionssubpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see theclosing instructions). Please base arguments onarticle title policy, and keep discussionsuccinct andcivil.


Please use{{subst:requested move}}. Donot use{{requested move/dated}} directly.

– whyExample (talk)08:36, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Commenting on a requested move

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All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. There are a number of standards that Wikipedians should practice in such discussions:

  • When editors recommend a course of action, they writeSupport orOppose in bold text, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g.'''Support'''.
  • Comments or recommendations are added on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *) and signed by adding~~~~ to the end. Responses to another editor arethreaded and indented using multiple bullets.
  • The article itself should be reviewed before any recommendation is made; do not base recommendations solely on the information supplied by other editors. It may also help to look at the article's edit history. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior move requests. They may contain relevant arguments and useful information.
  • Vested interests in the article should be disclosed perWikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI.

When participating, please consider the following:

  • Editors should make themselves familiar with the article titling policy atWikipedia:Article titles.
  • Other important guidelines that set forth community norms for article titles includeWikipedia:Disambiguation, specific naming conventions, andthe manual of style.
  • The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations that are not sustained by arguments.
  • Explainhow the proposed article title meets or contravenes policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
  • Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.[a]
  • Do not make conflicting recommendations. If you change your mind, use strike-through to retract your previous statement by enclosing it between <s> and </s> after the bullets, and de-bold the struck words, as in "•SupportOppose".

Please remember that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but that arguments based in policy, guidelines, and evidence have more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers an argument that does not explain how the move request is consistent with policies and guidelines, a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion may be useful. On the other hand, a pattern of responding to requests with groundless opinion,proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider using adispute resolution process.

Closing a requested move

Anyuninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please readthe closing instructions for information on how to close a move request. TheSimple guide to closing RM discussions details how to actually close a requested move discussion.

Relisting a requested move

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Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once beforeproperly closing.[b] Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form ofsupervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.

Relisting should be done using{{subst:RM relist}}, which automatically includes the relister's signature,and which must be placed at the very end of the initial request after the move requester's signature (and subsequent relisters' signatures).

When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to theclosing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.

If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widelypublicizing the discussion, such as by notifyingWikiProjects of the discussion using the template{{RM notification}}. Banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request can often be used to identify WikiProjects suitable for notification.

Notes

  1. ^A nominator making a procedural nomination with which they may not agree is free to add a bulleted line explaining their actual position. Additional detail, such as sources, may also be provided in an additional bullet point if its inclusion in the nomination statement would make the statement unwieldy. Please remember that the entire nomination statement appears on the list on this page.
  2. ^Despite this, discussions are occasionally relisted more than once.

Current discussions

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This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.
Do not attempt to edit this list manually;a bot will automatically update the page soon after the {{subst:Requested move}} template is added to the discussion on the relevant talk page. The entry is removed automatically soon after the discussion is closed.
To make a change to an entry, make the change on the linked talk page.

This list is also available in apage-link-first format and intable format. 74 discussions have been relisted.

December 16, 2025

  • (Discuss)Specialty registrarRegistrar (medicine) – PThe current name of this article only refers to the post-MMC StR grade, despite also covering the pre-MMC SpR grade following the merger of that article into this one. It also refers only to the term in the UK context, despite the fact that the position of Registrar is used in health systems in multiple other nations, especially those in the Commonwealth, which could be considered aWP:NPOV violation on the grounds of ethnocentric bias. A move to the more generic title of Registrar (medicine), in common with theConsultant (medicine) article would be easier and more intuitive to search (considering many people call all manifestations of the grade just "registrar" anyway,WP:COMMONNAME), open the article up to cover the use of the term in the global context, and better represent the existing content of the article. The article could then go on to discuss the StR and SpR grades.Dan :] (talk)05:40, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

December 15, 2025

  • (Discuss)Kidnapping of Noa ArgamaniNoa ArgamaniNoa Argamani – This request had been made before on June 10th, 2024, and was opposed. However, since then, she has become a prominent advocate (to the extent of making the Times 100 Most Influential List in 2025). Given her notability as an advocate (with her post-rescue activities section being the longest section in this article), this article is more about Noa Argamani than her abduction, and the title can be changed to reflect as such.EaglesFan37 (talk)21:56, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Black belt (martial arts)Black beltBlack belt – This would revert an undiscussed move of 2005 (performed without an edit summary by an editor who I will notify). "Black belt" currently redirects to a disambiguation page atBlack Belt, where the other topics generally use uppercase for "belt" and would typically also use extra words or special context for clarity in writing or conversation. The ordinary native English speaker would expect the term "black belt", by itself with lowercase for "belt", to be the belt/rank/rating level in martial arts. I don't think pageviews tell the whole story here (because of uppercase/lowercase and other factors), buthere they are for what they're worth.Wikinav data for the disambiguation page is more mixed, but again I point out that this mixes together uppercase and lowercase uses of "belt". The martial arts meaning is theonly meaning provided in the Cambridge dictionary. Collins provides other meanings but explicitly only for when "belt" is capitalized. Merriam-Webster, Oxford and Wiktionary provide secondary meanings for geographical and ethnographic regions (the details for Oxford are paywalled). All dictionaries agree that the primary meaning has to do with martial arts (referring to the physical object, the practitioner who wears it, or the associated level of skill. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk)18:10, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Proposed acquisition of Warner Bros.Proposed acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery – Proposing to address whether this potentially controversial move would be a feasible alternative. This article was initially created as "Proposed acquisition of Warner Bros. by Netflix" based on Netflix's bid to acquireWarner Bros.'s studios and streaming assets part ofWarner Bros. Discovery. That was before Paramount Skydance launched its hostile takeover bid. Now that there is no clear winning bidder, including either name in the title would beWP:CRYSTAL and notWP:CONCISE. However, the present title may be confusing and/or misleading because the bids propose acquiring assets not necessarily exclusively part of Warner Bros., as addressed in arguments inthis discussion, which have called for this move. Either bid proposes purchasing assets from the company, with Netflix's bid offering to complete a spin-off of select assets before such an acquisition closes, so each bid is still for the entire company as it stands officially. There have also been earlier historic acquisition proposals of Warner Bros., so it could be disingenuous not to use the full company name, perWP:RECENTISM. Because other recent moves have been carried out in haste, I am seeking a formal determination.Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss ·contribs)04:34, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de LafayetteMarquis de LafayetteMarquis de Lafayette – This is by far theWP:COMMONNAME for the Marquis. WhileWP:NCPEER normally suggests titling the article "Personal name, peerage name", there are a couple of strong reasons to not follow that norm here. The first is that NCPEER also says that there is an exception to this rule "when one holder of a title is overwhelmingly the best known", which is true in this case.Marquis de Lafayette already redirects here, and the only competitor we have would be his fatherMichel du Motier, Marquis de La Fayette, who is much much less important. This change would match the article with a number of others, includingLord Byron, theMarquis de Condorcet,Lord Mountbatten, theMarquis de Custine,Lord Kelvin, and theMarquis de Sade. The second reason is that this article is written in American English, as the subject hasstrong national ties to the United States. That's the reason we use the American spelling "Lafayette" in the article and not the standard French spelling "La Fayette". In the United States, the use of "Gilbert du Motier" is incredibly obscure; as you can seehere, "Marquis de Lafayette" is about ten times more common in books, and this is including sources that just mention "Gilbert du Motier" and then proceed with "Marquis de Lafayette". In fact, the name is so sufficiently obscure that including it in the title harms searching, as Lafayette does not show up at all when you type "Marquis" into the search bar, when it should probably be either right before or right afterMarquis de Sade. "Marquis de Lafayette" is effectively treated as his full name in nearly all cases, and most are unaware that he has another name at all.Ladtrack (talk)00:22, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

December 14, 2025

  • (Discuss)-ade (suffix)-ade-ade – Wikipedia does not describe anything else called exactly "-ade", and indeed-ade-ade redirects to this article, making itWP:MISPLACED at the current title. There were a few moves several years ago, including one that added the disambiguator "(drink suffix)", but that would only make sense if the general suffix (e.g. in "blockade") were likely to get its own separate article.jlwoodwa (talk)19:58, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Yoshimi P-WeYoshimiO – This name seems to be the name that Yoshimi has used most frequently, and the one that she's currently seems to primarily use. From release credits, she hasn't seemed to have used the "P-We" moniker prominently since the early 2000s.[1] Since then, the YoshimiO moniker seems more prominent, with it being used on her social media[2], on the biography pages of bands she's in[3], recent release credits[4], in the band name YoshimiOizumikiYoshiduO (YoshimiO Izumi Kiyoshi Duo), and in articles referencing her.[5] To me, this heavily suggests it is the name she is most frequently referred to, and known by.JellyfishReflector (talk) 22:01, 7 December 2025 (UTC)JellyfishReflector (talk) 22:01, 7 December 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk)17:40, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

December 13, 2025

  • (Discuss)AnedjibAdjibAdjib – Within this article, Anedjib is referred to only as Adjib, with the exception of the first paragraph and the gallery, the former of which claims that the more correct version of his name is Adjib. Additionally, the royal titulary section has his name listed as ˁḏ-jb (Adj-jb) with no "n" in sight. The name of the article should match the name used within the article.Veristune (talk) 19:45, 6 December 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk)18:19, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Frederica of HanoverFrederica of GreeceFrederica of Greece – She was Frederica of Hanover, until she married King Paul of Greece and she became (Queen) Frederica of Greece short for Frederica Queen Consort of the Hellenes. When her husband died she gained the title of Queen Mother of the Hellenes as the mother of King Constantine II of Greece. Thus, she needs to be named by her last and highest title defined by law: Frederica of Greece, the title displayed on her tomb. Also, the most recent Greek Queen is named Anne-Marie of Greece and not Anne-Marie of Denmark, and her sister-in-law, Queen Sofia of Spain, is named Sofia of Spain, and not Sofia of Greece. That is even more clear in Frederica's case, in which Frederica was Princess only for one year of her life! Thus, when she married into Greek monarchy 20 years later, she wasn't even a princess - legally by the Weimar Republic! To conclude, the judgments are backed by clear evidence, first of all that the only inscription on her tomb is Frederica - Queen of the Hellenes. Also to address your claim about maiden names of consorts, the Greek Constitution (both 1911 and 1952 versions) did not use the term consort. And royal decree and international recognition, the king’s wife was styled as “Queen of the Hellenes” not Queen consort. The evidence is clear and points to Frederica of Greece. Lastly, using n grams and using different POVs, we can see that the name Frederica of Greece is more dominant in American and British English. Also, there is another Frederica of Hanover, Princess Frederica of Hanover. Thus, Frederica of Greece competes with both the Princess and Queen, still it remains higher. In conclusion, the name of Her Late Majesty is: Frederica of Greece.Walterfgnn (talk)14:19, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

December 12, 2025

  • (Discuss)List of biggest box-office bombsList of films with the largest box office losses – The term "box-office bomb" is potentially contentious and not always used when discussing films that lose on budget. Whereas the criteria for inclusion here is more appropriately defined by just looking at the size of the box office loss and thus far less contentious (eg the case like for a critically acclaimed film like the Wolfman above). This also makes it easier for links back into this page, as unless there is sourcing that calls it a "box office bomb", using the current name can be an issue. The lede should still discuss what a box office bomb is (eg that most films on this are considered as such). Note that any other title suggestions similar to my suggested one is fair. I'm using "largest" over "biggest" since the loss of money is a quantifiable aspect.Masem (t)19:54, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Russo-Ukrainian war -"while unmarked Russian troops occupied Crimea"..."The International Criminal Court (ICC) judged that the war was both a national and international armed conflict involving Russia, and the European Court of Human Rights judged that Russia controlled the DPR and LPR from 2014 onward."
War in Donbas -"Russian paramilitaries seized several towns"..."Covertly, Russia's military were directly involved"
Russian annexation of Crimea -"Russia invaded the Crimean Peninsula, part of Ukraine, and then annexed it"..."On 27 February, Russian special forces without insignia seized strategic sites across Crimea. Russia at first denied involvement, but Putin later admitted that they were Russian troops."
Helpful Cat {talk}15:55, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)OKDOKD (company)OKD (company) – This is a three-letter acronym also used in a wide variety of fields of endeavor, and this mining company does not appear to be theprimary topic for it. PerWP:DPT, we can for example look at: *All-time monthly page views comparison between the top two meanings shows that it's unlikely that the average English reader strongly associates this term with the company, when the readership of the article about this and other software is 50 times larger (!) than the readership of the article about the latter *Google Books Ngrams for this and related terms indicate the company is occasionally mentioned, but there's no clear indication that it's the most commonly known topic, let alone more common than all others combined * With a Google Books search for OKD, in the first 10 results I only get 1 that mentions the company, 2 that mention the software, and 7 others I already disambiguated a handful of incoming links and disambiguated it, but the move was then reverted as "potentially controversial". I don't quite see the controversy, but let's have a formal discussion just in case. The other 'issue' was that the OKD software doesn't have a standalone article, but that's not relevant as it meets the standard ofWP:DABMENTION. All in all, when even if a tiny minority of OpenShift readers recognize OKD from that context, they could already be a larger contingent of readers than those who recognize OKD as the previously presumed primary topic, I don't think there can be a genuine discussion about there being a primary topic by usage. With regard to long-term significance, I don't think there can be any substantial advantage for a nationally-known company that is not active in the English-speaking parts of the world, when compared to internationally-known software in English usage. Even if it is technically 10 times older, both are generally recent. Plus the language and the airport in other parts of the world, too. This acronym is simply ambiguous, and we should not risksurprising English readers by presenting them a false lack of ambiguity.Joy (talk) 13:32, 28 November 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 15:43, 5 December 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. Vestrian24Bio13:34, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Lakes of TitanLakes and rivers of Titan – The notable subject here is liquid bodies on Titan's surface created by its hydrological cycle. Titan's lakes depend on its rivers and its rivers feed into its lakes. The infobox at the end of this article already groups Rivers into the "Lakes and seas" section and there are external sources likeWIRED andSpace.com that talk about Titan's lakes and rivers in the same article. This article already talks about "dark drainage channels" that Huygens saw, "the formation of Titan's river deltas", "Some appear to have channels associated with liquid and lie in topographical depressions", "Channels in some regions have created surprisingly little erosion, suggesting erosion on Titan is extremely slow, or some other recent phenomena may have wiped out older riverbeds and landforms". After the move, more information on the rivers can be added here as well as a list of rivers that could link to other articles likeSaraswati Flumen.Vid Flumina is already linked by this article but in the description of an image thumbnail.ᗞᗴᖇᑭᗅᒪᗴᖇᎢ (talk)07:32, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

December 11, 2025

  • (Discuss)Stephen Marshall (murderer)Killings of William Elliott and Joseph Gray – Person notable for only one event. As explained inWP:BIO1E, "[t]he general rule is to cover the event, not the person" in a case such as this. It rarely happens that the extraordinary political, social or historical nature of an event can make a single person merit their own page (Crooks,Chauvin,Guiteau), but the event in question here has no more relevance than any other notable true-crime cases that we usually cover on Wikipedia (maybe even less, since this one doesn't even meetWP:SUSTAINED). I see nothing out of the ordinary here that would lead us to go against conventional standards and give this person an individual article that, in this case, overshadows the event itself.V. S. Video (talk)17:02, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Samantha Fulnecky essay controversySamantha Fulnecky essay dispute – I propose renaming the page toSamantha Fulnecky essay dispute because it more accurately and neutrally reflects what reliable sources describe. The core issue is a disagreement between the student and instructor over the essay, not a broad scandal or major public controversy. PerWP:AT titles should be neutral and non editorial, and should reflect the actual scope of the topic. Because this involves a living person,WP:BLP requires conservative, factual wording and advises avoiding sensational framing. The description "controversy" is discouraged underWP:WORDS as a vague and value laden term. "Dispute" is a more neutral descriptor and aligns better with the proportional treatment required underWP:NPOV. Dispute is also a neutral term used by the media.[57][58][59][60][61] I also think it is important to note that the dispute is between the student and the instructor and is not one sided so consideration for2025 University of Oklahoma Essay Dispute should also be considered. Note: This article is currently under discussion atWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samantha Fulnecky essay controversy. This RM focuses only on the appropriate title if the article is kept. For these reasons, the proposed title provides a clearer and more policy compliant framing.Docmoates (talk)13:57, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Romanization of Serbian → ? – Serbian hasn't had to beromanized for over a century now, and this article largely doesn't actually describe the time periods when it did; rather, most of it is about the more recent times when it's been digraphic. The title should reflect that reality (the encyclopedia describes, it does not prescribe). What's a better title for it - maybeSerbian use of Latin,Digraphia in Serbian, or something else? I tried to get to the bottom of this a few years back in#Article title and scope, but we didn't make progress at the time, possibly also because of an oversized influence of an editor who got indefinitely blocked in the meantime. Here's hoping this discussion doesn't get disrupted.Joy (talk)13:35, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Parliamentary procedureLegislative procedureLegislative procedureParliament, a congress-type legislature, and asupreme state organ of power are not the same. A parliament, if we are strict here, implies thefusion of power and exists within aparliamentary system. A congress-type legislature (an article we are currently missing) exists withinpresidential system and is organised on theseparation of powers. Asupreme state organ of power exists incommunist states and is based onunified power. However, they all have their distinct procedures. A distinct article on parliamentary procedure should and could be created, but this article about legislative procedure more generally in all states, whether they practice the fusion of powers, the separation of powers or unified power. The article title should reflect that. I have a distinct feeling someone will say; not all parliaments are based on the fusion of powers. That is true, in some African states that originally practiced a parliamentary system (with the British monarch as their monarch) have instituted separation of power systems, or that some refer to their legislature as parliament. Therefore, one confusingly has a term that can entail everything and one specific thing (parliamentary fusion of power systems). However, legislature, uncontroversially, encompasses a parliament, a congress-type legislature, a supreme state organ of power or any other form of legislative body. That is uncontroversial. So let's pick a name that is both accessible and most correct.TheUzbek (talk) 09:58, 4 December 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk10:49, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Muslim conquest of ArmeniaArab invasion of ArmeniaArab invasion of Armenia – The current title doesn't followWP:NPOV with respect to scholarship on the topic, which eschews the language of "Muslim conquest" in favour of "Arab invasion/conquest". This is clear from theNgram, which producss nothing for the current title, and from the RS that support the page, which reference in turn:"The Arab Period in Arminiyah" (Dadoyan),"The Arab Invasions and the Rise of the Bagratuni" (Nina), and"The Arab Emirates in Bagratid Armenia" (Ter-Ghewondyan). The sourcing (andWP:NPOV) doesn't really support an alternative to "Arab invasion/conquest", with "invasion" seemingly having the slightly greater RS profile of the two.Iskandar323 (talk) 13:20, 26 November 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 00:38, 3 December 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. LuniZunie(talk)05:03, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

December 10, 2025

  • (Discuss)House of Bourbon-Two SiciliesHouse of Bourbon – Two Sicilies – orHouse of Bourbon of the Two Sicilies. The hyphen seems grammatically incorrect. An unspaced en dash would also not be correct, as this is not expressing a "between" relationship, but rather a context of this being a branch of the House of Bourbon that is fromthe Two Sicilies. I also see the suggested alternative with "of the" in some cited sources. I also found "House of Bourbon Two Sicilies" (with a space and no punctuation) in some sources, but that doesn't seem correct either. Some constructions seem to imply a House that is of a place or lineage called "Bourbon Two Sicilies", but this is not about "Bourbon Two Sicilies" or "Bourbon-Two" Sicilies. It is about a House of Bourbon inthe Two Sicilies. There are also 22 other Wikipedia articles that have "House of Bourbon-Two Sicilies" somewhere in their titles that should presumably be moved too, but I thought I would just start with the main topic's article title and then worry about the others. I took a look, and the 23 articles seem to generally have almost no English-language sources. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:36, 2 December 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk)04:32, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

December 9, 2025

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  • (Discuss)Pattullo Bridge replacement → ? – The Government of British Columbia officially unveiled the official Indigenous name "Stal̕əw̓asəm Bridge" and the official English name "Riverview Bridge" at a press conference. The current title no longer reflects the established official naming. Admin assistance is required due to the blacklist.Efuture2 (talk)23:40, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)KEXP-FMKEXPKEXP – TheWP:COMMONNAME for this station/organizationisobviously "KEXP" without the "-FM" suffix. TheWikipedia:Article titles policy would support to using "KEXP".WP:RADIONAMING is a Wikiproject home page, not a policy document. It links to the guidelineWikipedia:Naming conventions (broadcasting), which states:  :Articles in [...] the United States arealmost universally call sign-titled—that is, the title is the current call sign issued by a national regulatory authority. In these countries, all such stations are issued a call sign.There may, of course, be cases where a group of stations has a common name title. (emphasis mine) The guideline has a clear provision to allow common name article titles even in regions where call sign titles are the norm. A move to "KEXP" would use the common name title while still utilizing the shortened, more common form of the callsign. The suffix present in the official call sign is not needed for disambiguation. "KEXP" also better represents the overall parent "arts organization" described in this article that happens to run two radio stations; "KEXP-FM" and "KEXC" could exist as sub-sections in the article.PK-WIKI (talk) 18:08, 1 December 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk)18:09, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Mar-a-Lago faceRepublican makeup – I mergedMar-a-Lago face intoRepublican makeup per the discussion at§ Distinction from Republican makeup, but the direction of the merge was contested. Since a RM was proposed during the merge discussion itself, and the consensus on the target wasn't clear, i think a proper move discussion is needed. I'm personally open to alternatives but for now I consider Republican makeup to be a better target, as was very nicely explained inthis comment by @Herostratus:

    "Republican makeup" is more or less value-neutral while "Mar-A-Lago face" is lowkey insulting, inflammatory, and female body-shaming (even tho "Republican makeup" is intended to be pejorative, it's not that bad; you can certainly envision someone saying "I'm proud of my conservative dress and Republican makeup" straight-up but not "I'm proud of my Mar-A-Lago face" so much except as an asteism (rather than rejecting an insult, transforming it into a badge of honor) which is not the same thing at all).

    [...] I don't care how many sources use the phrase Mar-A-Lago face. [...] If the article was primarily about the phrase (etymology etc) rather than the phenomenon that'd be different. But it's not.

    FaviFake (talk) 17:17, 1 December 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. Vestrian24Bio09:37, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • (Discuss)Fixer (person)Fixer (journalism)Fixer (journalism) – Moving is step one of cleaning this page up, step two being the removal of large amounts of trivial content. This article as it exists currently is a clear example of aDICDEF covering three separate topics at once, only one of which appears to be notable in its own right; a "person who gets things done" is not an encyclopedic topic and we already have an article onmatch fixing. The usage in journalism is the only one that appears to have the potential for an article of its own (plenty of sources to be found —[69],[70],[71]), and this, I propose that this article be reshaped to fit that purpose. —Anonymous 21:09, 1 December 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk)06:42, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Street stormingĐi bãoĐi bão – 'Street storming' is one way to translate 'đi bão', but I much more commonly hear 'go storm', 'go for a storm', 'go make a storm', 'riding the storm' and all sorts of variants of that. It would be best for the article to treat đi bão as a proper noun for a global audience and refer to it as such within the article, since there is no agreed upon English term that can be attested, especially outside of Vietnam. It is kind of like 'nhậu' - the best way to refer to it in English is also 'nhậu' since there is no agreement on an English translation that can capture its nuance.QUYE7 (talk) 10:26, 16 November 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 19:45, 30 November 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk03:04, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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References

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  1. ^""Yoshimi P-We" at Discogs".www.Discogs.com.
  2. ^"YoshimiO's Instagram".www.instagram.com.
  3. ^"OOIOO Profile".www.ooioo.jp.
  4. ^""YoshimiO" at Discogs".www.Discogs.com.
  5. ^"Red Bull Academy article".www.redbullmusicacademy.com.

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