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As noted by the Mayor the other day, and reported by the BBChere, the bridge is sinking. Should it be noted here? -Roxy the English speakingdog16:23, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DoneThanks so much for that, and apologies for the slow reply. I've had a go at something along the lines you suggest – what d'you think? CheersDBaK (talk)12:07, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]This has been changed back from "Football codes", a term which is hardly ever used.Devokewater21:35, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the places listed especially South Bank, Greater Eston, Teesville etc are not under Middlesbrough and aren't classed as areas of Middlesbrough. A subdivision is different from urban area. I get some cross the boundaries but the residents pay their tax and vote under Redcar and Cleveland. Not Middlesbrough or Stockton on Tees.
@Roxy the dog:,@Crouch, Swale:,@Keith D:,@Chocolateediter:. Would you like to chime in on this discussion and give your thoughts?
DragonofBatley (talk)19:22, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Eopsid: and@Devokewater:.DragonofBatley (talk)19:23, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'd argue using areas not under a borough. It's equivalent to adding Eccles and Swinton as areas of Salford when they are towns and Salford is more than just the one settlement. Or adding Killamarsh as an area of Sheffield when it's under a different county and district. Redcar can't be muddled in with Middlesbrough. Redcar and it's borough are distinct from Middlesbrough with places like Saltburn by Sea Guisborough Greater Eston etc... South Bank and Teesville aren't areas of Middlesbrough. They are areas of Redcar. Just because they are contiguous doesn't make them areas of that town. Are we gonna start saying Belper is an area of Derby or Beeston is an area of Nottingham?DragonofBatley (talk)19:28, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that Crouch, Swale. I just think we need to be careful using areas which are not part of somewhere unless they are directly adjacent to the town or city centres.DragonofBatley (talk)20:58, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Roxy I'm not against keeping them but that should only apply to areas which are either in Middlesbrough or are partly in it (like a shared ward). But places like South Bank, Teesville, Eston and especially most of the areas around Redcar are not part of Middlesbrough. A subdivision is different to an urban area. But locals in most of those areas are under Redcar council not Middlesbrough council. And to call them areas of the town. Is misleading unless they are shared between both councilsDragonofBatley (talk)21:48, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think anywhere outside the borough of Middlesbrough is outside of the scope of this article. They may be part of Middlesbrough's urban area but they arent in thecity proper. And this article is about the latter.Eopsid (talk)00:35, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Eopsid:, I agree with you on thatDragonofBatley (talk)08:06, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
5. Comparisons with 2001 Census: Making comparisons between the 2011 built-up areas and 2001 urban areas is problematic for a number of reasons. Firstly, the methodology used to generate the areas has changed. Secondly, where there were multiple urban areas in 2001 there may only be one built-up area in 2011. In 2001, for instance, Southampton, Portsmouth and Locks Heath/Bursledon/Whiteley were three distinct urban areas. In 2011, however, they form a single built-up area called South Hampshire. Using the constituent output areas for the 2011 built-up areas, data from the 2001 Census can be assessed for these areas, albeit some of these areas were not classed as urban in 2001. It should also be noted that there were changes to some of the output areas between 2001 and 2011.but that the methodology explicitly excludes areas traditionally associated with a town because of an algorithm and low population density or ignoring commercial or industrial space and so on. This article should be specifically about the "Town", which as far as I can tell from any reliable source is specifically the council area.Koncorde (talk)14:13, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello all. Long time reader of articles but never really contributed much. I have a query if someone could answer. I noticed in the population table it shows a built up area pop of roughly 148,000. How has this figure been calculated? I thought the BUA was Teesside with around 390,000? I followed the link of the reference but it only describes the methodology behind BUAs. Also looking further on the ONS site it appears to define "Major towns and Cities" by either the BUA or BUASDs? Im slightly confused.— Precedingunsigned comment added byPaulos84 (talk •contribs)15:14, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
With recent edits from Mr8pink, the intro needs a new consensus as me and the editor are not seeing eye to eye.Chocolateediter (talk)00:29, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"In 686, a monastic cell was consecrated by St. Cuthbert at the request of St. Hilda, Abbess of Whitby."
... but St Hilda died in 680.Francis Hannaway (talk)12:42, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
