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This article should actually be either renamed to "Taiwanese pop" or create another article describing "Taiwanese pop". Because nobody has even heard of Mandopop. There is no such thing. If you think Taiwanese pop is sung in Mandarin, and therefore it's Mandopop not Taiwanese pop, that's wrong as well. If I sing a song in Korean here, does that make it K-pop? If I sing a Japanese song, does that mean J-pop? No. Because the XXX pop just merely represents the style of the music not the language itself.
However, by putting Taiwanese pop into Mandopop without giving it a separate genre is very unfair and ignorant to the Taiwanese musicians. Have you not noticed that this article essentially is describing the Taiwanese styled music? Taiwanese style music has become the mainstream of Mandarin language pop nowadays. The "Taiwanese pop" doesn't mean it is sung in Hokkien Chinese, but rather, just Mandarin songs in Taiwanese style.
The reason why there is no Mandopop is that other countries such as China or Hong Kong do not have their distinct genre of music. There is no C-pop or HK-pop because the people in China just listen to Taiwanese pop. This is a fact. Most Chinese people listen to the Taiwanese artists rather than their own. And by deliberately generalizing Taiwanese pop into a sub genre of Chinese pop makes me doubt there is some political meaning in this.Jjj84206 (talk)01:35, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
A search on Google shows a puny 842 pages on "Mandopop". I listen to Mandarin pop, I havenever heard of the term Mandopop.Mandarin pop is obviously a much better alternative for this virtually non-existent term.Mandel16:17, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Why does half of this page talk about Hokkien pop, this is suppose to be a page about Mandopop
Because many singers are from Taiwan sing in both languages. Perhaps there should be a page for Hokkien pop, but it should be called Taiwanese pop, because most of it is from Taiwan. The only singer outside of Taiwan who sings in Taiwanese (or Hokkien) is Eric Moo from Malaysia.
Perhaps there should be separate Taiwanese pop page. After all, Taiwanese are well represented overseas...
To my knowledge, and to Google's knowledge, no one outside of Benjwong's inner circle uses Tai-pop to mean "Mandarin pop originating from Taiwan." I did a quick Google search, and heck, I even added identifiers to make sure we weren't confusing Tai-pop with "Gang Tai Pop." How many results did I get?A whopping 22. Let's end this "Tai-pop" nonsense.Pandacomics01:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Do we have any reliable sources specifically to back up that "Tai-pop" was or is a commonly used term?Google search doesn't seem to be returning much.Hong Qi Gong(Talk -Contribs)15:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure mainland has done anything for the Mandopop industry in the last 50 years. You might want to read up on Anita mui and the many artist performances censored in the mainland for being too sexy and rebellious. Supergirl is a "national" contest to prove there are great singers in China. They sing other people's song. When they market bad-ass songs, and the communist party approves it, then I'll be shocked. Until then 台灣歌 Taiwan pop, taiwan song goes hand in hand with mandopop.Benjwong01:23, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unless I missed something. Both Faye Wong and Leon were marketed and launched 100% in HK. It's not where you are born, but where you become a "commercial" success. The mainland is in a special situation now. They are making these artificial supergirl contest forcefully to catch up to taiwan and HK. The real/natural/un-government sponsored market is visible atChinese rock.Benjwong02:04, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Tai-pop would be a convenient contraction to distinguish Taiwanese artists but is unfortunately marred by the same pronunciation as Thai-pop. Note that Google Search lists a precedence forT-pop referring to Thailand and not Taiwan, interestingly there are minimal references forSiam-pop which would be the historical preference.219.79.235.12103:17, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The popular usage in the occident would be Sino-pop fromSino-, albeit as an alternative name toC-pop with the Mandarin language as the predominant form. Picking a reference at random from Google Search:Performing Arts.219.79.235.12103:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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So uh, why is there no mention of the nineties?_dk04:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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This article was proposed for deletion. I deprodded it, but can someone familiar with the genre and language try sourcing the article? Her website has copies of press articles.Fences&Windows17:34, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The lyrics section is absurd and is only expressing someone's personal opinion or rather a disgust towards the mainland Chinese - simplified characters and Northern accent. I think it should be removed or replaced with a more neutral info. --Anatoli (talk)00:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The section on Mandopop Artists asks for citations. One extensive source can be foundhere. There are over 380 artists/groups named.--Megaton Sheriff (talk)12:12, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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