Talk:Kenji Doihara
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We have two sources, it seems: Bisher who says "several" thousands and Seth who supposedly says 100,000. Why supposedly? Because I haven't been able to see his book on Google Books - so I cannot be sure it's even quoted correctly. I had changed the 100,000 to several, giving preference to Bisher, since he appears to be a more credible source (Seth looks like a colourful figure, but his scholarly credentials are rather weak). Now, 94.71.19.40 edited this to "tens of thousands" which I had to revert, as such a "compromise" is very muchWP:SYNTH - to be avoided like the plague.
Another reason why I strongly doubt the 100,000 figure is that theComfort Women article doesn't even mention Russians - while there are widely varying estimates of how many women were forced into prostitution by the Japanese military - from 20,000 to 400,000, all authorities seem to be largely in agreement over the ethnic composition of this luckless group: "Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Filipino, Taiwanese, Burmese, Indonesian, Dutch and Australian women". Russians must have formed a marginal part - maybe to the tune of several thousands but surely not 100,000.Bazuz (talk)23:41, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
User 94.71.22.147 is responsible for what appear to be questionable edits to this article in 2012.
This section is particularly suspect:
1. The assertion that Prince Naruhiko Higashikuni was "responsible for eight fake coups d'état, four assassinations, two religious hoaxes, and countless threats of murder and blackmails between 1930 and 1936" is not mentioned anywhere in the article onNaruhiko_Higashikuni itself.
2. The characterisation of the Kodoha clique as being "for a more 'spiritual' way of expansion as an effort to liberate and unite all yellow race peoples under a racial, not nationalistic Empire" smacks very much of propagandism for the Kodoha and is not echoed at other Wikipedia articles.
I do not have a brief for any of these people, including the Kodoha or Toseiha, but the very strange tone of the article does prompt me to wonder how well-grounded some of these claims are.
User 94.71.22.147 has also made other edits to the article which seem a little unusual. For example, this
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Now it seems that he was a particularly nasty fellow, but the edits seem rather sensationalist, especially the accusation that he was 'the real boss and sponsor behind every kind of gangs and underworld activities in China'.
Does anyone have any idea on the accuracy of these edits?
123.122.199.1 (talk)01:24, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
He was a professional soldier, this article contains IMTFE hatred. Many other Japanese were called savage criminals then.User:NipponSun7 — Precedingundated comment added11:47, 30 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
These claims are just ridiculous. His "social status" was low (so Japan was still under the Edo Shogunate?) so he sent his sister as concubine for a "prince" (I wonder who it might be!) to get a promotion, to work in the Beijing Embassy (which he absolutelydid not) under "Tojo" (who graduated the Army War College 3 years after him!).
Yes, he was assigned to the General Staff Office, but by1913.
What is this "Eleven Reliable" or "Three Crows" crap, I mean, really. Googling these terms brings up nothing but this page. In Japanese it literally yields nothing.
The latter half about modernizing the "anachronistic samurai tradition" stuff is just anachronistic in itself. The Satsuma clique in the Navy was purged even before the1st Sino-Japanese war started. The Choshu clique in the Army were pretty much dead or retired by the Showa era.
This suicide thing is in the guy's article too, but I am pretty convinced that it is untrue. The Japanese Wikipedia page tells nothing of a "suicide" nor a "note to the Emperor"; it just says he died of diesease. Japanese literature doesn't say anything either and not even a conspiracy theory appears in a quick Google search.
I didn't even bother to fully check the passages about his conspiracies and atrocities and whatnot. Yes, Doihara did some spooky conspiracy stuff (as stated in the Japanese page), he might have sold opium and killed some folks, but I don't see how he"vastly exceeded the normal behaviour of an intelligence officer," at least from information in Japanese sources.
From these atrocious errors I can justsee that the people editing this article (and perhaps, the authors of the sources) has no idea about this person or modern Japanese history at all. I've always known that the English Wikipedia does poor at Japanese topics, perhaps due to poor English literature and editors with ideological motivationwithout expertise, but this article is probably the worst I've seen so far.97.91.189.117 (talk)06:32, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm more or less used to every Wikipedia article on figures from Imperial Japan being a list of every bad thing they ever did, instead of neutral or useful biographies, but this is just preposterous.
Let's just skip past the judgment made that a sarcastic comment made by a no-name historian, to the effect that Doihara was an oppressor and not a liberator, deserves to be in the opening paragraph. This article then goes on literally to cite awork of fiction for the claim that Doihara was a poor officer and a drug addict.— Precedingunsigned comment added by114.189.72.94 (talk)10:48, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
