Gangbangs ruin it
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- Visual novels >v18795:Meikoku Gakuen Jutai Hen "Onegai Shimasu... Sensei no Seieki de, Watashi-tachi o Tasukete Hoshiin Desu!"
| #1 bybloodeagle 2021-08-18 at 16:48 | <report >Coulda been great, but it just ruined it. Such a shame. So sad that so many VN's have such great character designs, but end up just a waste of talent and resources. |
| #2 byshinytentacool 2021-08-18 at 18:35 | <report >I know that feel. There's Jutaijima by same artist, no gangbangs afaik. |
| #3 bycheckerpeck 2022-06-11 at 23:33 | <report >It's only at the very end before you reach the cliffhanger for the sequel where it is then turned non-canon. In the sequel, you can get a proper end to each girl where there's no NTR or any other guys in the picture. This just a giant mountain of a molehill |
| #4 byscorpionmk11 2022-06-12 at 10:46 | <report >I also wanted to play Meikoku Gakuen thanks to great designs by Butcha, but I read here that yes, orgy or NTR or whatever in first game is turned non-cannon in the second game but also the second game has LOT more NTR stuff in it? Kinda weirded out about that. |
| #5 bykratoscar2008 2022-06-12 at 13:54 | <report >Yeah that "the first game gangbangs didnt happen but here have even MORE but canon gangbang!" shit. I remember the first game was followed by Sukebe Elf and I was worried they would add cuckshit. So since Butcha was heavily involved I imagine the gangbangs where his idea. Hope he stays with Clockup and does his shit there now that Lune only does 1 game a year. |
| #6 bycheckerpeck 2022-06-12 at 14:13 | <report >The sequel is split into two main branches, which splits VERY early into the game. The gangbangs only happen in one of the branches (arguably the "evil" route) and in a bad ending in the other branch. It's completely avoidable |
| #7 bykratoscar2008 2022-06-13 at 05:59 | <report >I dont care its avoidable. VNs are all about player choice the ones who choose gangbang are as valid as those who avoid it. Plus if the MC is a cuck in a route thats a personality trait that is part of the character. Not to mention the heroines. Why would I trust she saying she loves the MC when we have a route where she is happly gulping down cocks? Luckly this optional cuckshit bullshit is kind of rare now. |
| #8 byhuntethan2 2022-06-13 at 06:19 | <report >Funny, because the presence of that content is the only reason this is on my "tentatively give it a chance" list instead of directly putting it in the "bland wish fulfillment self-insert nukige" together with the rest of crap Lune usually churns out. |
| #9 bycheckerpeck 2022-06-13 at 22:51 | <report >@7 man you're taking it personally. It's literally completely isolated from the other route. It's like saying you don't want to play a vn because there's a single bad ending where the heroine dies and that makes you not even want to touch it. But it's not necessary to read that route to reach the true ending where she has 3 kids with the MC and lives happily ever after. And there isn't even a confession before that those scenes so it's not even really cucking. Romantic feelings, especially from the MC, are dubious at best |
| #10 byscorpionmk11 2022-06-13 at 23:26 | <report >#9 I kinda get from him same feeling I have towards these "avoidable" NTR games and that is - If it's in the game, I take it as a possible scenario that CAN happen. I get your example about avoidable heroine death, but NTR is bit different. It just sends bad signals about the heroine if let's say in NTR route MC doesn't show enough interest in girl and there she goes to a ugly fat bastard to get some attention out of him doesn't it? Looking at you Heartful Maman. God, that one still stings. Don't get me wrong, I want to give Meikoku Gakuen a chance but if you would be kind enough to spoil me if the girls get into orgies of their own volition or if it is some magic hypnotism shit. I see from their character tags that there are some good endings where they can become wives, so that piqued my interest |
| #11 bycheckerpeck 2022-06-14 at 02:38 | <report >Like I said, the romance is dubious at best in the route with the gangbangs. The MC gives them enough dicking that they finally completely fall under the influence of the meikoku. Until then, there are a couple of scenes where right before that point where it has NTR elements (girl wanting MC's dick instead of some other guy, but still willing to blow them), but that's not really NTR because there's no romance element. Even when they do start fucking other guys, MC literally doesn't give a shit and often joins in. The "NTR" only really lasts for 1, maybe 2 h-scenes. After that, it can go to the harem ending where the baby is MC's anyway. Also, the topic is on gangbangs, but there's actually way more scenes with only the MC as being the guy, but as always, there's an over reaction at the slightest hint of NTRLast modified on 2022-06-14 at 02:38 |
| #12 bybobjr2000 2022-06-14 at 04:43 | <report >Not a fan of gang bangs or ntr, barely even a fan of threesomes. I don't think is anything wrong for some one to be a fan of them just like it is for some one not to be fan of these tags. Don't see why either side has to force other to accept their view. When it comes to original OP I can understand feeling of grass feeling greener because some of the art and character design do have talented people work on VN that not a fan of and they love to stick with same vns. But wish could see same work done on some vanilla titles. |
| #13 bykratoscar2008 2022-06-14 at 05:34 | <report >#9 I mean I havent played Dal Segno because I know an heroine that interests me dies. But I rather the girl die that having a CG where she is gulping down on cocks and now with the spoiler end also him being a cuck. I dont think choices happen in a vacuum. So I dont buy the idea that say if MC is a cuck in a route then he wont in the cuck in the other one. To me in VN choices, the choices speak of the MC personality so him choosing being a cuck is mainly him acting on his cuck desires that are part of his personality. So yeah how can I trust the happy ending of the heroine to the cuck? Thats why I hate optional cucking, mainly if its just like 20% of the game. I have no issues with NTR games where the point is avoid being cucked, I wont play them but dont come near 90% MC centric games. This issue is less common in japanese eroges now but many western ones are keeping optional cucking alive. |
| #14 byanay 2022-06-14 at 22:01 | <report >#6 If that's true. Then this is one of the safest Butcha-U's work compared to other. |
| #15 bykratoscar2008 2022-06-15 at 08:23 | <report >#15 That would be Jutaijima. Other than Fat MC, its basically a vanilla game. |
| #16 bycillywillyboy 2022-11-23 at 20:51 | <report >#13 vanilla absolutists are the main reason eroge arent as mainstream and arent selling as well as they could. Its basically impossible to make a widely loved eroge with so many of these ppl around cause they wont even touch a game with an avoidable scenario they dont like. Funny how you dont really see any NTR/Sharing absolutists who will drop a game just because it has a non-ntr route. I could tell you that there exists ntr/gangbang art of every waifu you love and you could tell me that isn’t canon, but neither are the bad ends and alternative routes! So what exactly is the issue again??Last modified on 2022-11-23 at 21:02 |
| #17 bybobjr2000 2022-11-23 at 21:04 | <report >#16 I would say reason not main stream is because the fucking of children, slavery, rape, sex with monsters, necrophilia and the many other horrible things that normalized in vn eroge. Though I guess language barrier and some country laws also play in affect as well. |
| #18 bycillywillyboy 2022-11-23 at 21:20 | <report >#17 Agreed. I should say its one of the reasons then. I just cant help but smh when i read #13 that makes no logical sense. So ntr fan-art of a character is apparently acceptable(since thats basically unavoidable) due to the fact its not canon. But if the OG creator does essentially the same thing by making an alternative non-canon dimension, where NTR happens, then its totally unacceptable???Last modified on 2022-11-23 at 21:22 |
| #19 bycheckerpeck 2022-11-25 at 19:33 | <report >>slavery >rape >sex with monsters >necrophilia >most popular type of eroge is moege I didn't include the children part because that's actually true |
| #20 bygallicy 2023-03-26 at 03:16 | <report >#16 imagine blaming the vanilla lovers, why not blame the lolicons lmao. |
| #21 byMorningDayLight 2023-07-05 at 21:53 | <report >Most popular VNs in the west include all kind of nasty fetishes rather than the opposite. Euphoria, Bible Black, Starless, Saya no Uta and, well, those Kenzen games by the same creator as this one. Your cozy romance of the week vanilla game isn't doing that. I guess people seek something unique and different on their porn, who could guess? |
| #22 byzakashi 2023-07-06 at 03:31 | <report >I think VNs aren't popular because there's not enough merchandising, only in Japan and VNs are popular games there. I think it's weird that even in the anime community almost nobody knows that these games exist, I for one only knew about their existence in a fanmade website about anime. And people who know about them probably don't talk about it, when was the last time you recommended a game to a friend of yours? I did it once but that's because he was already an anime fan, I just assume people around me don't know about VNs so I never bring up the topic. |
| #23 bygallicy 2024-05-12 at 02:41 | <report >#18 of course it is lmao We arent cucks like you |
| #24 bycillywillyboy 2024-05-12 at 05:01 | <report >#23 I've never shared my SO in my life, so no, not a cuck. I guess I'm a psychopathic mass murderer too because I played GTA once lol Learn the difference between fiction and reality :-) Maybe then, you wouldn't get your sensitive feeling hurts by an imaginary waifu cucking you lmaoooLast modified on 2024-05-12 at 05:12 |
| #25 bycheekyman07 2024-05-12 at 14:16 | <report >#22 I think it might also be a difference in culture, on top of the merchandising thing though you could say both of them are one in the same. I mean to me Japan just seems to be a lot more open to deviation (unusual things/weird etc) making the line of what the average person considers to be weird or can tolerate (for them) a bit higher than the West and Central. Also a bit more 'wacky' I guess? I mean humor-wise, it's one of the aspects I like the most about VN's lol. So if say you are a Westerner or Central and are into VN's that predominantly come from Japan maybe it's a bit more difficult to talk about with the average Joe since they have that higher level of unusual to them culture-wise. Almost feels like I'm calling myself and fellow Central + Westerners dull and boring lol, but yeah just guessing really, can't back that up with anything. I have a couple of friends irl that I talk about VN's with but that's just because I have known them a while, would I bring these topics up in regular conversation with the usual crowd of people I hang around or game with? Nah it just does not come up. Most people I know just arent interested in the stuff (or don't talk about it because of above-mentioned barriers).Last modified on 2024-05-12 at 14:32 |
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