The more time I spend on this, the more depressing it gets.

It breaks everything and seems to imply greater and greater performance tradeoffs.

On Rome, Twitter/DOM goes from 2.5 to 2.3. It is not the end of the world, but it is months of optimization work undone. Not to mention all the safety that we seem to sacrifice.

To be revisited.

It looks like this will need a lot of work still.

Marking as research. This is not ready for 1.0.

Marked for 2.0.

I have removed this from the 1.0 milestone.

My main concern is that this change introduces many vulnerabilities and would require extensive testing.

Another concern is that it seems to bring about significant performance regressions, sometimes exceeding 10%.

I could live with the loss of performance but not if it comes with a considerable performance penalty on top of it. The two together make for a bad mix.

So this will require extensive work.

Agreed. If I had time to work on it right now and push it forward I might feel different, but between moving to a new house, kids being home for dinner, and pushing towards a major milestone at work I'm saturated.

It feels like there is a way to do this with low performance loss, but the needle has to be threaded very carefully. The target in my head has been up to 5% performance loss, all told (which is roughly the white noise level of the compiler for Dom).

My only sadness--which is absolutely not a reason to delay 1.0--is that making a performance-for-feature trade-off after 1.0 will be harder to sell and therefore may require more engineering effort to preserve a padded version for users that can afford it. Not that that is bad, just that it's more work for smaller gains.
Note that it's possible to put padding back for Dom without changing on demand.

@jkeiser Thanks. My concern right now has mostly to do with bugs. Pushing something that is not sufficiently well tested as "1.0" would be showing bad judgement.

My only sadness--which is absolutely not a reason to delay 1.0--is that making a performance-for-feature trade-off after 1.0 will be harder to sell and therefore may require more engineering effort to preserve a padded version for users that can afford it. Not that that is bad, just that it's more work for smaller gains.

There is a flip side to this story: as I was working on it, I thought that it was a waste to undo all of the hard work to accelerate processing by going back to a slower version even when users do not do it.

I think that the proper solution might be to use templates to 'branch' on the approach (do you have padding or not?).

Also, from a research angle, there might be other ways to cook this particular chicken. The way I thought you were going to go for is something different... Instead of doing all of these bound checks all over the place... examine the document when you get started, adjust the structural index so that at a strategic location you get a bogus error. This bogus error brings you into a distinct mode where you finish the processing with more careful code. Then you'd get the no-padding for free (given a large enough input).

This "bogus error" approach is also how I would try to handle the "stage 1 in chunks". You give me a 6 GB JSON document. I index it in chunks of 1 MB. I change the index so that somewhere before the end of the chunk, I encounter a bogus error. Then I know to load a new index.

I'll open an issue.

@jkeiser Note that this PR us probably very close to a working state. I am just nervous about how many bugs I will be missing. Sending this out as version 1.0 does not seem right.

@jkeiser As it is, I have been working quite a bit just to get thecurrent code base ready for release and I am not happy, and it has been months. A reset like the one suggested by this PR would require massive engineering efforts to get back at the level of maturity we have.

2 years passed since this PR sent, any update here? Or is it given up?

Our client receives JSON data from a server, and have to create apadded_string instance before parsing the data, which is a perf penalty

I have not done tests to check the perf gap between

• no padding, just parse the data
• padd the data and parse

Can padding be an option? If so, users can choose the best way

This PR is obsolete in its current state and is not being pursued.

@zptan If you'd like to pick it up and complete it, that would be great.

I just found this commit

• Jereq/load-gltf@bc70241

So it seems that we already can parse without copying + padding the original json

std::string json_no_padding ="{}";simdjson::ondemand::parser parser;simdjson::ondemand::document doc = parser.iterate(json_no_padding, json_no_padding.size() + simdjson::SIMDJSON_PADDING);

So it seems that we already can parse without copying + padding the original json

You definitively can do as you describe but if the string is located near the end of a page, and the next page is not allocated, the resulting code could crash.