2025 July 24,Ross Douthat, quotingDiana Walsh Pasulka, “What if the Government Believes in U.F.O.s More Than You Do?”, inThe New York Times[1]:
So after the first few emails with certain of them, I got an introduction from anexperiencer to a person who I met at a conference, which was an American Academy of Religion conference.[…] And I got insight into the lives that they led, and I became convinced that the government was definitely doing something related to this.