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Create a page for every university and college and add{{infobox University}} for it. Seethe missing list for those institutions still awaiting articles.
You are invited to participate in anRfC atWikipedia talk:Notability asking if relevant notability guidelines should be modified to clarify that notability can be used as a criterion for inclusion in embedded lists. If it is passed, it may result in changes to this advice article.ElKevbo (talk)01:23, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Under number 3, the example given is "List of alumni of Jesus College, Oxford". However, it is my understanding that current naming guidelines prefer the shorter "List of Jesus College, Oxford alumni". Should this example be changed to another article with the shorter format?Rublamb (talk)07:37, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There are well-established academic rankings, which are generally the ones listed in the infobox for the country and are agreed by consensus at the infobox page (it's generally good, therefore, to use specific rankings infoboxes such as 'Infobox US university ranking' rather than the generic one). There are also an increasing number of rankings based on other factors but, in general, I would limit the reputation and ranking section under 'Academics' to academic rankings, omitting rankings of how environmentally friendly, inclusive, etc. the institution is. However, that's not too say that such rankings don't belong somewhere on the page – just that they don't belong under Academics. I would suggest including the Campus Pride ranking under Student life.Robminchin (talk)20:11, 7 October 2023 (UTC)s.[reply]
I’m not sure I’ve understood your question, but if you’re asking who is to be included inList of Harvard University people, isn’t that defined in the first sentence of the article:The list of Harvard University people includesnotable graduates, professors, and administrators affiliated with Harvard University?Phlar (talk)14:56, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Naraht! If I'm understanding your question correctly, you're wondering about how we defineNotability forlist articles. The answer to that is recorded atWP:LISTN. In practice, however, the precedents are a lot weaker and the rules less formalized for lists than for non-lists. You can search through theAFD archives for list article nominations for examples if you're curious. Hope that helps! Cheers,{{u|Sdkb}}talk18:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
{{alumni editnotice}} is often helpful. In articles I write, I chose to use the wording "Noted alumni" rather than "Notable alumni" in order to avoid conflation of the Wikipedia concept of notability with the local concept of "important enough to bedue for inclusion in this list".{{u|Sdkb}}talk18:15, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sdkb In the particular case that I'm interested, the entries are all either for people with Wikipedia pages or a few where they would qualify (fake example) 4th, 5th and 6th presidents of Yale all graduated from Harvard, but only the 4th and 6th have pages at this moment but all three are listed onList of Harvard University people. The primary issue is that in the exampleSigma Nu has notability, and the list might not be an issue *if it remained as part of the Sigma Nu article*, what should be done if a notability question onList of Sigma Nu members comes up? It feels like there really *isn't* an answer, but the question is whether the appropriate Wikiproject could set something. (And no, Sigma Nu isn't the GLO in question).Naraht (talk)20:54, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to add language to this essay to this essay that explicitly dissuades editors from adding or retaining detailed listings of academic departments or similar units in articles about colleges and universities. It's appropriate to include listings or descriptions of particularly large or prominent units (e.g., colleges of universities, historically important departments) but it's not appropriate to include detailed listings of smaller academic units (e.g., all 60 departments of a large university). The current advice we have for this material in the "Organization and administration" subsection of the "Article structure" section is:
Discuss the structure of the administration, current leadership, budget, relationship with a board of trustees or regents, student government, endowment information, and academic divisions of the college/university. If this college/university has a special organizational structure, such as aresidential college system, then it should be mentioned here. If the university is part of a largersystem (as inUniversity of California) or otherwise has formal relationships with other colleges/universities, discuss this relationship and provide requisite wikilinks. Capital campaigns and majorendowment numbers should also be presented here, with any notable gifts being referenced. If the college or university has formal affiliations with other educational institutions (e.g.,Five Colleges) or is a member of a major consortium or other inter-university organization (Annapolis Group,Association of American Universities, etc.), mention these as well.
It might be helpful to change it so it reads (proposed additions are bolded):
Discuss the structure of the administration, current leadership, budget, relationship with a board of trustees or regents, student government, endowment information, andimportant academic divisions of the college/university.Detailed listings of smaller or less prominent academic divisions should be avoided. If this college/university has a special organizational structure, such as aresidential college system, then it should be mentioned here. If the university is part of a largersystem (as inUniversity of California) or otherwise has formal relationships with other colleges/universities, discuss this relationship and provide requisite wikilinks. Capital campaigns and majorendowment numbers should also be presented here, with any notable gifts being referenced. If the college or university has formal affiliations with other educational institutions (e.g.,Five Colleges) or is a member of a major consortium or other inter-university organization (Annapolis Group,Association of American Universities, etc.), mention these as well.
This seems reasonable. It might be good to citeWP:NOTDIRECTORY to give a policy basis for this advice. I think the wording works for ensuring notable academic divisions can be listed, without overly limiting it to just notable divisions (often a faculty or college is important for university organisation without being notable, after all).Robminchin (talk)16:48, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CATMAIN allows 3 options on how to categorize an eponymous category and it's child article which includes:
Keep both the eponymous category and the main article in the parent category. This is used inCategory:Countries in Europe to allow that region's country articles to be navigated together.
Categorization states that Editors should decide by consensus which solution makes most sense for a category tree.
Which brings us to the following:
TheCategory:Colleges and schools by university currently lists an incomplete list of the colleges and schools (and for some departments) of certain universities. For most schools listed, only the child article is listed, which allows for a consistent view of how many schools or colleges each university has.
@Bearcat brought up a fair point that categories shouldn't be emptied and should be replaced especially if there's only one category. (Please correct me if I misinterpreted this!)
Which brings me to the first question to use as an example:
I believe this approach improves consistency withinCategory:Colleges and schools by university and ensures the eponymous category remains linked to the broader university structure which I believe will help people locate information more efficiently.
