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The flag of Latvia's current standardisation started on 1 January 2019, however, we are applying the current standard to the contests prior to 2019. Prior to 2019, the only flag used was thetextile version. I havechanged the flag on the 2018 article. Can somebody use a bot to fix this issue in articles regarding contests between 2000 and 2017? —IмSтevantalk11:26, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done in the ESC and JESC contests. Can you check if I've missed any?
I know this is a bit late to the game since the articles have been changed already, but for me personally this is going a little bit too far for the sake of "accuracy". The law has changed multiple times since Latvia regained its independence, and so there are various different shades which have at different times been considered the "correct" colour. I can letthis one slide for now, however I strongly oppose making any changes to the French flags post-creation of the Fifth French Republic. As is stated on theFlag of France article, both the lighter and darker versions of the flag were used simultaneously and interchangeably, so there is no "correct" version; just because Macron decided to use the darker version at the Elysée from 2020 onwards doesn't make it more "official".Sims2aholic8 (talk)22:46, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would argue that there are no lenghts that we shouldn't be going to in order to use correct flags. When talking about Latvia, the shade used today on the project was formalised in 2019, meaning it didn't exist prior, so why should it be used prior? When talking about France, the file used in the infobox forFlag of France article should be the reference point, and considering that it was changed in 2020, we should be adhering to that —IмSтevantalk22:53, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This change would not affect the readability of the articles whatsoever, simply display the version of the flag mainly used by the state of France during the correct time periods. If both versions are correct, then surely this shouldn't be an issue? We'd also be consistent with articles such as theUEFA European Championship article series —IмSтevantalk23:05, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We should use the official flag in any case.
In the case of Latvia, I agreed to make the changes because according theFlag of Latvia article, on 1 January 2019 the law that defined the non-fabric flags official color shade entered in force. Before that, since the independence, only the textile version of the flag was used. Therefore, I thought the change was appropriate, and I agreed withImStevan. In Wikipedia (Template:Country data Latvia), we only have one representation of that textile version (pantone), and I used that.
"Article 2 of the French constitution of 1958 states that "the national emblem is the tricolour flag, blue, white, red". No law has specified the shades of these official colours ... The blue stripe has usually been a dark navy blue; a lighter blue (and lighter red) version was introduced in 1976 by President Giscard d'Estaing ... Both versions were used from then on ... On 13 July 2020, President Macron reverted, without any statement and with no orders for other institutions to use a specific version, to the darker ... it was noted that both the darker and lighter flags have been in use for decades"
In this case I agree withSims2aholic8. Both shades are correct and official and have been used as such. I see the use of a lighter version by president Giscard d'Estaing as a personal choice, since it was not reflected in any official order, and that didn't make it more official than the darker version. I don't know the thinking behind the decision to use the lighter version in the UEFA article in that period, and I don't see the point why we must follow them just because they use that. Therefore, in this case, I don't see a significant improvement in accuracy that justifies the effort of editing zillions of articles to use the lighter version. Sorry.Ferclopedio (talk)10:22, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I suggested making this article and perhaps moving viewing figures there, but I think the consensus was that viewing figures should be on country by year articles. So this draft just kind of stayed there. I don't know what to do with it —IмSтevantalk19:06, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Eurovision.tv is moving to Eurovision.com (https://eurovision.tv/story/time-update-your-bookmarks-eurofans). Eurovision.tv will remain up until sometime next week. I don't know how many sources we have that rely on Eurovision.tv at the moment - would have thought somewhere in the thousands. Eurovision.com is nowhere near as fully fleshed out, is missing results for every year, has no lyrics, attributes entries to the wrong country - in short it's fucked. So unless they move the entire site within a week which they won't do I think we are going to have to archive all of Eurovision.tv as it is.
It seems alot of links to Eurovision.tv do not have an archive link and will therefore rot, just look atHistory of the Eurovision Song Contest § References. Updating all of these manually is going to be a pain...
If it helps, they've just said on Reddit that detailed voting results, alongside "new profiles, event histories, logos and media" will be available in February. But that's a while with broken sourcesToffeenix (talk)09:35, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They also just saidhere that they will be redirecting the old links, but again that it will take some time. This means it won't be that bad if we fail to update some links, but I'd still rather not go three months with broken links on most Eurovision-related articles. ―Jochem van Hees (talk)10:56, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
France —IмSтevantalk19:29, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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