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Section sizes in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard
Section size forWikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard (28 sections)
Section nameByte countProse size (words)
HeaderTotalHeaderTotal
(Top)94994900
Open tasks23023011
An administrator recall petition has been initiated for UtherSRG1,6541,6549898
Appeal block2,4102,410100100
Re-open discussion8928924141
Temporary checkuser privileges for 2025 Arbitration Committee election scrutineers9709704444
Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Transgender healthcare and people closed2,6112,6113838
Accidentally moved user talk page to draft space1,4321,4323232
I ask you to remove my block. Thank you.5875872424
Arbitration Committee seeking new clerks2,1902,190207207
Strange long-term pattern at Kosem Sultan2,3342,334374374
Notice of RfC on aligning community CTOPs with ArbCom CTOPs5715713636
Statement from SFR on the incident at WCNA6,6186,6181,0361,036
ECP being applied in mandatory-ECR areas7,5997,599226226
Please close a bad RM7177173131
Another bad RM closure request4,4004,4009696
Mathmensch, move to WP:CBAN9,1379,1378383
Disruptive RfD listings3,9723,9725252
Vandalism and gaming from probable sockpuppet4,0504,0506161
Unblock from filespace2,5932,593242242
Proposed temporary adminning restriction on UtherSRG20,37620,376470470
Unfair Range Blocks3,3023,3023131
Vanished accounts holding user rights as of 25-10-20251,2071,2071313
ANI report, going nowhere8258251616
Appeal block2,2472,247188188
User Slodkiszczur keeps on vandalizing civic coalition (party) page and removing warnings from his own talk page.3,9903,9906161
More multiple RMs2,7472,7472121
Amendments toPalestine-Israel articles 42,2032,2032121
Total92,81392,8133,6433,643
Section sizes in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
Section size forWikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (61 sections)
Section nameByte countProse size (words)
HeaderTotalHeaderTotal
(Top)61461400
Persistent bad faith assumption and personal attacks by User:Aciram23,87451,046134384
Interaction ban proposal7,20027,17247250
Discussion19,97219,972203203
Ban-evading proxy IP causing disruptions across typhoon articles19,52859,378258817
WT:WEATHER WP:BADRFC?1,7041,7044040
Blocked for applying Datevar13,37113,3719797
Proposal: Community CT for Tropical Cyclones3,5553,555199199
What to do now with what's going on around the articles on Matmo, Halong, Ragasa, Hato, etc.2,3102,310117117
Proposed general warning to WikiProjects Weather and Tropical Cyclones14,90914,9095151
Separate claim4,0014,0015555
Uncivil provocative and edit-warring behaviour by User:Freedoxm20,81822,201717803
SigillumVert and Citobun1,3831,3838686
User:杜の街, possible AI edits, and almost definitely AI stonewalling when pointed out37,10037,100361361
User:Arlandria_Ff disrupting consensus13,54613,546116116
Dronebogus still arbitrarily reverting IP comments29,65260,830324545
Proposal : Site ban21,63921,639156156
Proposal: block and IBAN3,2353,23500
Proposal: TBAN against removing any other editor or IP's comment on a discussion page (talk, user talk, Wikipedia talk, etc.)6,3046,3046565
Gaming the system to achieve extended confirmed status40,43447,466164275
Comment on mentoring progress7,0327,032111111
Significant usage of hallucinated URLs and possibly AI generated texts by Sablc474720,66227,40526136
Possible gaming for ECR4,7544,7549292
Proposal: WP:ROPE, no WP:XC1,9891,9891818
Persian Lad and questionable use of Further reading sections7,5657,5658787
Disruptive editing in Baltic biographies27,25028,703188215
Concurrent RFC?1,4531,4532727
Pattern of LLM edits on contentious topics14,32816,301216216
Proposal : Gengeros is Banned from Using Large Language Models1,9731,97300
Block evasion and long-term abuse by IP-hopping sock 67.40.202.591,4021,4025959
Probable WP:COMPETENCY issue20,51120,5116262
Repeated past removals of sourced content by User:Arcrev13,3813,3819696
COI editing3,0843,0844646
Edit warring, misrepresentation of sources, and MEAT at International Police Organization4,3434,343504504
Massive inappropriate closure of TFD/AFD/RFD9,5579,5577373
User:Erdemozcantr disruptive editing on contentious topics1,26322,318113254
User:Barseghian_Lilia – Misrepresentation and personal targeting on Dolma article21,05521,055141141
Ongoing disruptive edits by User:Notanobleman7,6817,681112112
User:Haydi1235,9345,9342626
CarterSchmelz61 - religious POV pushing4,7644,764167167
IPs disruptively editing for era markers4,7894,7897474
Para ANI: Usuario anónimo vandaliza biografía de Guillermo Bermejo1,3231,3237070
User:Ronz721,1821,1821818
user:Trainsandotherthings and user: Pi.14159265354,79921,479412823
Reviving #user:Trainsandotherthings and user: Pi.141592653516,68016,680411411
Incivility by 121.46.87.2462,4522,4523939
Multiple WP:NOTBROKEN violations by IP range1,5321,5328585
Vlodiker Chimok / AI2,5442,544141141
User talk:CFA/sandbox2,0582,0581515
User:Fdom5997's factually incorrect edits, edit wars, and article ownership2,9622,962201201
Vandal1,3201,3202626
WP:COMPETENCY issue (redux)28,74628,746187187
Massive dump of unhelpful redirects9,2249,2249090
Idzubamithra7,8717,8717979
Persistent addition of unsourced content by 2600:6C60:37F0:34E0:0:0:0:0/641,0531,0536161
I request help in disambiguating unconstructive from disruptive2,3542,354153153
User:Gordon Maximo and bludgeoning at Wikipedia talk:Ignore all rules#RfC: A simple clarification to IAR8,1218,121126126
Continued disruption following a rangeblock that wasn't2,5632,563250250
Disruptive editing by User RaviKiran13196866868787
Personal insult and edit war4,4234,423264264
Persistent genre-warring from IP user1,1641,1644747
Total562,976562,9768,1908,190
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Unsure what the easiest way to undo this is, but inthis edit the sigmabot archivedthis discussion, which should probably have had an admin close it before it was removed.Nil🥝01:30, 29 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

First close

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All comments or corrections are welcome.☣︎ Hiobazard ☣︎21:01, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just letting you know that when closing, the closing template needs to go under the section header. If it goes above, the section header won't work properly. I fixed it for you, but I just wanted to make sure you were aware of this for future closes. Thanks,QuicoleJR (talk)21:03, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do I violate 3RR?

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Hi all. Hope you're doing well. I accidentally made 4 edits in a row including revertshere. I did it by struggling to revert my relist action, as per mentioned in my user talk page. If I really violates then I am ready to bear block or any kinds of sanctions. Thank You!Fade258 (talk)16:02, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Fade258: I don't think this is the page you intended (this is for discussions about the administrator's noticeboard as a noticeboard), but no, you did not violate 3RR, since 1) your reverts were all consecutive with no intervening edits by anyone else, 2) you were only reverting yourself, and 3) most importantly, even if those things were not the case, you had no intent to edit war, and intent matters. --Tamzin[cetacean needed](they|xe|🤷)16:15, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Tamzin. Thanks for your clarification. Can you tell me from next time where should I post this type of issues that I occur? I request you to check that AfD and please revert my relist action for why please see my user talk page. If you could. Thank You!Fade258 (talk)16:19, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Fade258: You don't need to self-report anywhere for reverting yourself. That's a normal part of editing. If you're having trouble self-reverting the relist, maybe ask atWT:AFD. An experienced AfD admin should know what to do. --Tamzin[cetacean needed](they|xe|🤷)16:25, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Tamzin. Thank You for your guidance.Fade258 (talk)16:27, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AI-related threads and reducing bloat

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As we are getting quite a lot of AI-related reports at ANI, and the noticeboard is becoming quite bloated, are there any objections to moving future threads on that topic to the more specificWikipedia:WikiProject AI Cleanup/Noticeboard?ChaoticEnby (talk ·contribs)10:54, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A Wikiproject should not be in control of an encyclopaedia-wide noticeboard. If reports are to be moved, the noticeboard itself should be removed from the project's domain. You might also want to consider asking the community whether it wants such a noticeboard or not.Yours, &c.RGloucester10:59, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is located there based on precedents such asWikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam (which serves as the spam report noticeboard), although I have no objections to moving it to a separate location.ChaoticEnby (talk ·contribs)11:07, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Wikipedia wide board to report obvious spammers isWP:AIV; the WikiProject board is something for those interested in that project(I think).331dot (talk)11:13, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not think the existence ofWikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam is a very good precedent for this enterprise. I would suggest that you make a proposal to the community at the village pump. If adopted, your prototype page can be moved toWikipedia:AI noticeboard, or whatever other name you decide to propose. I oppose the spontaneous creation of new community noticeboards without explicit authorisation, as they tend to result in a balkanisation of reporting methods, a reduction in eyes on any given report, and an increase in red tape.Yours, &c.RGloucester11:15, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify, this noticeboard was created to deal with many existing reports being filed atWikipedia talk:WikiProject AI Cleanup (the project's talk page) and making actual project discussions harder to find. There was local consensus there to move the reports to a separate page, and, given the current bloat at ANI, I don't think it would be helpful to move even more reports there.ChaoticEnby (talk ·contribs)11:20, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not think that your project has the right to impose a new noticeboard on the wider encyclopaedia without consensus. If you want to have your own internal clean-up enterprise in the Wikiproject space, that's fine, but to suggest that uninvolved editors must go to a Wikiproject-governed page to request administrative assistance with AI-related matters is very strange. If this board is going to take on some responsibility on behalf of the community, it must first be authorised to do, and then be removed from the project's domain.Yours, &c.RGloucester11:26, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that explanation makes sense. I might workshop a RfC to move it to a separate noticeboard beyond the scope of the project, I did not plan to move it against consensus.ChaoticEnby (talk ·contribs)11:43, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not exactly, the WikiProject board is to report less obvious spam issues, such as UPE cases or new domain names to add to the blacklist.ChaoticEnby (talk ·contribs)11:15, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
UPE cases have a Wikipedia-wide board,WP:COIN(or, if off wiki evidence is involved,WP:REPORTPAID). I must concur with RGloucester; it's one thing to have a space for those interested in a particular project to coordinate its efforts, but that can't be imposed on the wider community.331dot (talk)11:30, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I didn't want to impose it on the wider community. I opened this thread to see if there was consensus for centralizing reports there, and wasn't going to do anything otherwise.ChaoticEnby (talk ·contribs)11:45, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your comments but you seem to be drawing a distinction that I'm not seeing.331dot (talk)11:54, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I'm not sure too sure which distinction you are talking about. Per my reply above to RGloucester, I don't want to impose this as a global noticeboard without consensus – I would be happy to start a RfC on whether to move the board outside of the jurisdiction ofWP:WPAIC and to a more generic Wikipedia: space board (similar to the likes ofWP:COIN) where AI-related issues in general can be processed.ChaoticEnby (talk ·contribs)12:53, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fwiw, the need for such a board is only likely to increase.Selfstudier (talk)13:22, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The takeaway here seems to be that 1) such a board would probably be useful and 2) a Wikiproject is not an appropriate home for that; it should be proposed as being located at a normal location (e.g. for instance WP:ANAI or something, similar to how WP:ANEW works for edit warring).SWATJesterShoot Blues, Tell VileRat!17:12, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest against WP:ANAI as an acronym based on the immediate reading.CoconutOctopustalk17:13, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think an AE/ANEW style board with a clear format for presenting and addressing evidence would be a huge help for addressing cases of AI.signed,Rosguilltalk17:43, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This needs to stay under WP:AN, at least for the moment. We don't have clear policies and practices around AI as yet. We're certainly not at a point yet where cleanup is an obvious process, and the appropriate responses to particular conditions have become a simple matter of standard practice. We might usefully subsection to something below WP:AN or WP:ANI, just to make things clearer, but that's not the same as making it a simple cleanup project.
There's also the (very real) problem when projects (i.e. self-selected cliques) get to control policy on 'cleanup' of some aspect, without broad visibility and control. We've done that a couple of times and it goes badly.Andy Dingley (talk)17:21, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think from my reading of the above, the proposal is that if there is a specific administrative noticeboard for AI related issues it would not be under the purview of WPAIC (the board linked is currently an WPAIC board but ChaoticEnby has agreed that they'd support it being moved away from that and to a specific Wikipedia: space board), so it would have broad control. The proposal is also more about centralising the very many AI-related complaints recieved at AN and ANI to reduce bloat, not about any specific form of cleanup or standard responses.CoconutOctopustalk17:27, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Header

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I was wondering; should the other parameters ofTemplate:ANI-notice andTemplate:AN-notice be pointed out in the header? Specifically the|thread= parameter might be useful to make it more obvious to editors what the thread they are being notified of is called.45dogs (they/them)(talk page)23:30, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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