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Image browsing test on mobile: entering Phase 1

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Hi everyone,

I’m Eliza Blackorby from the WMF’sReader Growth team. A few weeks ago, WMFposted here about declining pageviews to Wikipedia – that’s what our team is working to address. We want both new and existing readers to return to Wikipedia because they find it a compelling place to learn. Over and over, a top request from readers is that they wish for “more images/photos” on Wikipedia, as demonstrated insurveys of global internet users. As a result, we want to show readers more images and display images in a more enriching way. Our hypothesis is that by making it easier to explore images already in articles, readers may find Wikipedia more engaging and return more frequently, with some of them eventually becoming editors.

What idea are we testing?

A few weeks agowe shared how we were considering a test of a sliding gallery view of all an article’s images at the top of the article that readers can then click to jump to that part of an article, inspired by Community Wishlist requests forimproved discovery of media. We’ve since built a prototype, calledImage browsing, that takes your feedback into account. You can try it by adding the url parameter?imageBrowsing=1 to the end of any URL on the mobile view for enwiki. For example:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummingbird?useskin=minerva&useformat=mobile&imageBrowsing=1  

What stage is this project in?

Our initial discussions with you constitutedphase 0 of our reader experiment phases. We now want to enterphase 1: launching a small test with an early version of these ideas. It’s not yet clear whether this feature will be an improvement for readers, so we want to test it to determine whether to proceed intoPhase 2: building a feature.  

What is the timeline?

We will A/B test this version with 0.05% of mobile readers on English Wikipedia starting the week of November 17 and ending four weeks later on December 17.

What does the experiment include?

This test will include a gallery at the top of an article that shows all the article’s images. The feature will be available for any article that has three or more images. Tapping on any image will open a browsing experience with the image enlarged, its caption, and options to view it on Commons (if available). Readers will see images and paragraph-excerpts from the article itself in the gallery and will be able to switch back to where the image appears within the article. At the bottom of this experience, readers will be able to view images selected by editors for the same article in other Wikipedias.

Screenshots:

Below are three separate screenshots of the test's different aspects to demonstrate the experience when a user clicks through and scrolls.

What input are we looking for from you?

While this round of the experiment is focused on simply testing if readers are interested in image browsing, there are still issues that would need to be resolved before developing this into a feature, including those around bad images and cross-wiki images as it relates to conflicting policies or cultural sensitivities. We invite you to help us continue to identify concerns like this. In the collapsed box you'll find a summary of thefeedback and risks we heard from you in September, along with how we're thinking through them.

Feedback from Phase 0
  • Mixed feelings on showing images from other projects
    • Commons: Some editors liked the idea of pulling more images from Commons, while others felt there was too much risk to showing Commons images without editor oversight. For this test, we have decided to only use images that have been added to at least one Wikipedia.
    • Images from other wikis: Some editors felt that allowing readers to click to see images from other wikis for the same article could pose a risk to editor oversight. For the purposes of gathering information in this test, we are including the ability to view images from other wikis, and will carefully observe and share the results with you for future conversations.
  • Risk of showing inappropriate images
    • We’ve set up this first A/B test so that you can exclude page images by adding thetag for exclusion, but we agree there’s still some risk. If we decide to proceed with this idea after the test, we’ll review ways we can expand this list to include further editorial oversight.
  • Risk of showing irrelevant images
    • Here, we’ll be using the same classes as MediaViewer. Instructions on how to add these classes are availableon this page. Images already excluded from Media Viewer will not appear in the experience.
  • Concerns about potential violations ofWP:NFCCP and ofWP:NFLISTS
    • We agree this is a risk when displaying images from across wikis since not all wikis have the same level of moderation. We’ll be reviewing this piece with ourlegal team and current policy to make sure everything is aligned.
  • Concerns about conflicts with theManual of Style
    • The guidelines in the Manual of Style for images focus on how images are presented within article content. Since this experience is more like a navigation or browsing experience outside the main content space, similar to how images appear in Media Viewer, we’re not sure how or whether to apply the MOS here, so let’s keep talking about that.

Since this work is still experimental, we expect to refine and adjust this idea based on your feedback. We’d love for you to try the feature on a few articles using the url parameter above. Your input will help us decide how to improve it if we move forward after the test. Also, stay tuned for the test results. We’ll share them with you and discuss together whether it makes sense to continue with this idea into Phase 2, and if so, what additional changes we will need to make before proceeding. Please share your thoughts and questions here, and for more info, see ourproject page.

Thank you!EBlackorby-WMF (talk)22:38, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

When I go to the hummingbird page and click on the article image that has the caption "Adult male bee hummingbird, Cuba", I am taken to a page that contains the image, along with credit and a link to the license information. It is my understanding that CC licenses require that information to be linked to and displayed when the image is clicked. When I click on the same image in the slide show, I do not see any licensing information. This may be a problem.
The other obvious issue, of course, is that the images are displayed without their captions until you click them individually. As User:DarthVader might have said, I find your lack of context disturbing. –Jonesey95 (talk)01:21, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Jonesey95, thanks so much for flagging. You raise some important points. We've taken them into conversation with colleagues in theLegal department, and agree that we would need to address them if we end up building a future feature out of this experiment. I'll follow up more here if/when that happens.EBlackorby-WMF (talk)22:31, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is it really OK with the legal department to knowingly violate the terms of CC-BY-SA, even on an experimental basis? I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know if it really is a violation, but it doesn't seem like something that would normally be allowed here at en.WP. If someone tried to roll out a template that behaved in this way, I think it might get some license-related pushback. –Jonesey95 (talk)00:15, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonesey95 I disagree that there is any semblance of a violation here. There is a prominently displayed link to commons off to the side, which imo counts as attribution. I also disagree that if a editor made a similar choice, they would get any license related pushback. The practice of using images as background and then overlaying attribtuion text is pretty common across userpages (a example of this would beSigma's userpage)Sohom (talk)13:30, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Creative Commons licences do not require a specific method for providing attribution. The licence states that it may be reasonable to meet the attribution requirement by providing a link to a page that has all the required information. Since clicking on a gallery image displays an expanded image with an overlaid link to the attribution information, personally I feel this is a reasonable approach to provide attribution.isaacl (talk)06:02, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I find the workflow to jump to the section where the image is located to be awkward. After swiping through the gallery at the top of the article, I select an image, and see an expanded image at the top of the page, but there's no link to the section. I have to scroll down through the list of images (with the little summaries) until I reach the image I originally selected, and then I can select "View in article". I think it would be better if the little summary and "View in article" link appeared directly below the expanded image, so the context and jump link would be immediately available. (I think it should still appear within the comprehensive list as well.)isaacl (talk)06:11, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Isaacl, thanks for this feedback! It's helpful to hear your thoughts and ideas around page navigation. We're still figuring out the best way for anchor links to behave on the page in a way that more seamlessly connects images with context via their summary and their place in the article. Our design team will take a closer look with this in mind. Do you think the summary and "view in article" link would work best overlaid on top of the expanded image, underneath where the caption currently is? Or do you have something different in mind?EBlackorby-WMF (talk)20:48, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Due to the length of the blurb (I guess it's an excerpt, not a summary), I think it would be better to appear below the image, as I suggested. From a UI perspective, since the "view in article" link will bring you to the text in the excerpt, I think it would be better for the link to appear floated to the right at the top of the excerpt. I suggest leaving a bit of extra space at the bottom so the top of the excerpt and the link is visible without scrolling. I think it is better for the text to appear distinct from the caption, so prefer the text not to appear as though it is floating over the image.isaacl (talk)22:43, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think the general idea here is good. If we can increase the visibility of media in a way that enhances the usefulness of Wikipedia to readers, then I'm all for it. The current implementation also seems to be decent, although some kinks may have to be worked out as pointed out above.
Even if directly pulling images from Commons is ruled out, what about simply providing a link to the Commons category? We already have{{Commonscat}}, so I don't see how this would be controversial. The link could look something like this:
 More from Wikimedia Commons
It could appear when you get to the end of the "Media from other projects" view.~2025-32228-23 (talk)00:08, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @~2025-32228-23, thanks for the note, glad you like the idea so far. Potential connections with Commons is something we are thinking about a lot, and this idea you've posed is a good one for future investigation. How do you feel about offering a link to view media from other projects besides Commons (like other language wikis)?EBlackorby-WMF (talk)21:01, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@EBlackorby-WMF: I think the way this feature currently works in the demo is mostly reasonable.
If editors on another language edition have decided to include a photo, then it is probably at least somewhat illustrative and useful. On the other hand, Commons categories sometimes include low-quality / low-relevance media, which makes including photos from Commons more problematic.
I do see some risk of cross-wiki vandalism. For example, if a troll wants to deface a protected English Wikipedia article on a popular or contentious topic, then they could instead add an inappropriate image to the equivalent article on a different language edition that has barely any eyes on it (e.g.,Udmurt Wikipedia). It might take a while for editors to catch this kind of thing.
(I am the same user as above.)~2025-32085-07 (talk)05:47, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
what about simply providing a link to the Commons category?Support. I think there should be someload more button on the right of the images panel to load more images from the Commons category (e.g. first files that in adeepcategory: scan of the category have most uses in mainspaces) and/or a button there to go to the category. The best may be to have both but usually subcategorization of the Commons category is important where one can't just show random files only directly in the category and when using subcategories too some less-related or less-useful files may show up and it would be difficult to sort them. Thus, ideally the user navigates to the category page by opening it in a new tab or via some integrated Commons category browser that could be added into the Image browsing panel.
Moreover, I like that proposed button design – however not for the Image browsing panel but what would best be added to the See also section (not buried underneath the long References section) and labeled "More media on Wikimedia Commons". Most Wikipedia users aren't really aware of Commons and don't see the Commons category link at the bottom. It needs a modern and well visible button like this and I'm sure readers would find it useful.Prototyperspective (talk)00:03, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just a quick thing, but I think it would be better if the gallery layout was closer to the one used on Commons for category slideshows. It would provide more context to users. Also, on my mobile device (tablet, using a Chromium browser), the photos were ever so slightly cut off on the sides and I think that having margins/a border like in slideshows would help prevent this.postleft on mobile!19:07, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template for interwiki links in prose

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I have created a draft template, asUser:Pigsonthewing/sandbox4, that will render{{User:Pigsonthewing/sandbox4|ca|Viquipèdia}}, for example, asUser:Pigsonthewing/sandbox4, including{{Lang}} to mark up the language of the displayed text.

Do we have a template for such links already? Would anyone care to sanity-check my version, please?Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);Talk to Andy;Andy's edits18:43, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Interlanguage link should be modified if this is desirable.Izno (talk)18:47, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While the language functionality could (indeed, should) be included in{{ill}},{{ill|ca|Viquipèdia}} renders asca [Viquipèdia], which is not the same thing. I'm not clear that it can be made to display in the required format.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);Talk to Andy;Andy's edits18:53, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You can make the display whatever you want, seeTemplate:Interlanguage_link#Displaying different text.Izno (talk)18:56, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pigsonthewing That's because the parameter format should be{{ill|Viquipèdia|ca}}, which renders asViquipèdia [ca]. The formatting is different, but that's because the intent is that in mainspace we should always be linking to a local article wherever possible.--Ahecht (TALK
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19:46, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's still not the wanted output. The template is not intended for mainspace.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);Talk to Andy;Andy's edits20:09, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The template's documentation, such as it is, does not say anything about namespace limitations. If not for mainspace use, you might want to emit an error message when the template does get used in mainspace:
{{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACENUMBER}}|0|{{error|<error message>}}|<make interwiki link here>}}
Trappist the monk (talk)20:48, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Do you really need the:<tag>: to be part of the rendered display? Shouldn't the template simply render:
[[:ca:Viquipèdia|<spantitle="Catalan-language text"><ilang="ca">Viquipèdia</i></span>]]Viquipèdia
Trappist the monk (talk)19:10, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thinking some more, if a language tag or annotation of some sort is required, you might do this instead:
[[:ca:Viquipèdia|{{lang|ca|Viquipèdia}}]]{{small|&#x5B;{{#language:ca|en}}&#x5D;}}Viquipèdia[Catalan]
One of my objections to{{ill}} is that it presents the ISO 639 language tag in its rendering assuming that readers know what that language tag means.
Trappist the monk (talk)19:20, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes; the intention is to replicate[[:ca:Viquipèdia]] but with the correct language markup.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);Talk to Andy;Andy's edits20:12, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Now at{{Interwiki link}} (shortcut:{{IL}}; and{{Il}} should be available soon).Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);Talk to Andy;Andy's edits15:41, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why does "Monkey" appear in the dropdown search results for "Obama"?

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Tracked inPhabricator
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Copied fromWikipedia:Help desk § Why does "Monkey" appear in the dropdown search results for "Obama"?

A recent Reddit thread has informed me that if you type "Obama" intothe search box, theMonkey article is listed among the dropdown results, even though the wordObama appears nowhere in it. Looking for a quick explanation, I asked on the Wikipedia Discord server, but to no avail. Apparently, the exact algorithm by which these dropdown results are selected is shrouded in mystery. It seems to me that vandals have found a way to artificially game this algorithm, akin toGoogle bombing. I am concerned that we apparently have no way to detect, understand, and revert this kind of vandalism, so I'm posting here to seek further insight. Please let me know if there is a better suited venue for this discussion.CopperyMarrow15(talkedits)06:35, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

According to[1], the defaultsort forMonkey is "Obama, Barack." I'm not sure why yet.ChildrenWillListen (🐄 talk,🫘 contribs)06:48, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've overridden the defaultsort back to "Monkey." The CirrusSearch indices should be updated soon.ChildrenWillListen (🐄 talk,🫘 contribs)07:05, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! But what (and who) caused it in the first place? I didn't know it was even possible for a page to have a custom defaultsort without using the magic word.CopperyMarrow15(talkedits)07:09, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The now-revdeled April edit by Bananas1208 copied the entireBarack Obama article intoMonkey, including the defaultsort. Not sure why it's still an issue, though.Extraordinary Writ (talk)07:14, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see! Weird how the defaultsort got left over in the metadata like that. Seems like a serious vulnerability.CopperyMarrow15(talkedits)07:43, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
When a defaultsort directive is removed, the overridden value is still stored inside the CirrusSearch metadata. See[2], where you can still see World, Hello as the defaultsort even after I removed it. I wouldn't call this a serious vulnerability, but definitely something that should be fixed.ChildrenWillListen (🐄 talk,🫘 contribs)07:49, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Now at Phabricator.ChildrenWillListen (🐄 talk,🫘 contribs)08:05, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder if this is new: otherwise you'd think someone would have noticed it before. (Something to do withthis, maybe?) I see "Biden" gets meIce cream and "Trump, Donald" gets meDragon andLucifer, so at least our vandals are bipartisan.Extraordinary Writ (talk)08:23, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
T404858 most likely.ChildrenWillListen (🐄 talk,🫘 contribs)08:29, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe the algorithm that chooses what search results show up is delayed, and the day banana did the vandalism just so happened to be near when the algorithm updates? Perhaps every month? No matter what happened though, that must have been quite the shock for anyone searching up Obama at that time.
Oak lod (talk)15:56, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Oak lod: What happened is that if you override thedefaultsort parameter and later remove the override, the CirrusSearch (Wikipedia search engine) metadata still persists the old value. In April, a vandal pasted the contents of Barack Obama into Monkey, including the defaultsort override, which got persisted even after that edit was reverted. Normally, this doesn't pose any issues, but the WMF recently enabled an experimental feature which fetches search completions based on the defaultsort value stored by CirrusSearch. To their credit, they tried to implement a failsafe function (isRelevantDefaultSort) to prevent such vandalism, but it was broken so that wasn't of much help. One of the bugshas been fixed a few hours ago and the patchwill be deployed to prod next Thursday, and since I overrode the defaultsort forMonkey back to "Monkey", it no longer appears in the search results when you look up Obama.ChildrenWillListen (🐄 talk,🫘 contribs)16:22, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Guess I didn't read the message thread as well as I thought, as I got next to none of that info when I first read it.
Oak lod (talk)16:27, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The fix forT410602 has been backported onto our current live branch, so you don't need to wait a week for it.DLynch (WMF) (talk)16:43, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It seems to work, thanks for the quick patch! The cached defaultsort bug still exists, but it's less of a problem now that people can't use it to vandalize search completions.ChildrenWillListen (🐄 talk,🫘 contribs)16:52, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No idea. I initially suspected it was template vandalism but the edit window didn't report any duplicate DEFAULTSORT directives. Wikidata looks fine so it isn't that either.ChildrenWillListen (🐄 talk,🫘 contribs)07:15, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The vandalizing accountUser:Bananas1208 has been indefinitely blocked as a sockpuppet of a globally locked account.Cullen328 (talk)07:26, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but that was reverted 4 months ago.ChildrenWillListen (🐄 talk,🫘 contribs)07:36, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi all — Peter from the Wikimedia Foundation Search team here.
Thanks to everyone who investigated and surfaced the underlying cause. Here's a concise summary from the Search side, with the full technical breakdown available inthe Phabricator task.
What happened technically
  • In April, a vandal copied the entireBarack Obama article intoMonkey, including itsDEFAULTSORT.
  • Even after the vandalism was reverted, CirrusSearch kept the old defaultsort value in its page-level metadata. That persistence is how CirrusSearch currently works and is typically harmless.
  • Recently, we enabled an experimental search-completion feature that uses this metadata to improve suggestions.
  • A safeguard function (isRelevantDefaultSort) was supposed to prevent irrelevant or abusive defaultsort values from influencing completions — but that check wasn't working correctly.
  • The combination of stale metadata + broken safeguard causedMonkey to appear when searching for "Obama".
Fix status
  • The bug in the safeguard has been fixed andbackported; it is already live in production.
  • As a result, stale defaultsort metadata should no longer influence search completions in this way.
  • The underlying issue — CirrusSearch retaining old defaultsort values after an override is removed — still exists, but without the safeguard bug, it is no longer a practical vector for this type of search result corruption. We’re tracking that separately.
On the broader concern
This wasn’t a new form of vandalism or someone “gaming” an opaque algorithm. It was an interaction between cached metadata and a newly enabled feature, amplified by a broken relevance check. The community debugging here was spot-on, and your reports helped us fix this quickly.
If you spot anything else unexpected in search completions, please keep filing tasks — it genuinely helps.PFischer-WMF (talk)20:11, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I know it's late in the day, but I have a watchlist backlog. If something like this happens again, the thing to do is to set an explicit{{DEFAULTSORT:Monkey}}, let that work its way through caches, and then remove it again. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk)12:11, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template populating category redirect mess

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Can anyone work out whyTemplate:User en-gb-3 is populatingCategory:User en-gb-3 instead ofCategory:User en-GB-3? A recent edit seems to have triggered this but reverting doesn't fix it.Timrollpickering (talk)13:40, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Timrollpickering It looks like itwas that recent edit, you just needed to wait a bit for the category to clear (there was a recent Tech News item about some backend changes that result in delayed category updates).{{User x}} checks if the category exists before placing the template there, so ifCategory:User en-gb-3 were deleted it wouldn't be a problem. That being said, the real solution would be to not have different capitalization between the template and the category, and I would suggest doing a mass-move on the en- templates to capitalize them.--Ahecht (TALK
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14:15, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately it's still there; I don't know if this is because of another user making a needless edit about whitespace. These language categories are a total pain in the backside with a lot of inconsistency (only en-GB and en-CA seem to be capitalised) and some off site stuff that isn't maintained well. Is there a simple way to zap the problems once and for all?Timrollpickering (talk)22:00, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have added a missing{{Resolve category redirect}} call toTemplate:User x.* Pppery *it has begun...22:06, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Really, the category names used by our templates should match those used by theBabel extension. So,{{user en-gb-3}} (however it is capitalised) must not yield a different category than{{#babel:en-gb-3}}. To save you looking it up, the#babel: method yieldsCategory:User en-GB-3. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk)08:20, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did aWP:BOLD move of the en-gb and en-ca templates to en-GB and en-CA. Oddly enough, babel uses lowercase en-us, so I kept those templates there.--Ahecht (TALK
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Now we haveTemplate:User en-CA settling inCategory:User en-CA-N and again it's not clear why. Just what are the outstanding irregularities and can we get a mass change to fix all the Babel messes for good?Timrollpickering (talk)11:21, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Turned it into a category in the end asCategory:User en-GB-N also exists. But I wish these templates were clearer about what generates what.Timrollpickering (talk)21:25, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to log in due to request for verification code via email

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Hello - I was sent here by someone on the wikipedia help channel on IRC to try to get help -

My account (User:Alohawolf) seems to be stuck in a login loop that I cant seem to break out of my account is alohawolf - I've been an active editor since 2005, however I cant seem to login, it redirects me to verify my account, and its either sending that to an email I no longer have access to, or the email never comes.

To be clear, if I log in with an intentional bad password, I do get a bad password message - so I know the password is correct, I've also never enabled any kind of 2fa/mfa on my account.~2025-34613-54 (talk)15:21, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe a long shot and you've probably already done this, but have you checked your spam/junk folders of whatever email accounts you have access to? --DB1729talk15:33, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See alsoHelp:EmailAuthTheDJ (talkcontribs)15:52, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I ended up going thru account recovery, and its working now - thanks!Alohawolf (talk)02:45, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How to (linking)

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I have been struggling to understand how one creates a link to a specific paragraph or block of text within a Talk page thread (e.g., this is what I'm trying to do:"blunt-force objectivity is the defining feature of TIMEOUT"). I'm well versed at using{{oldid}} to accomplish something similar, but the above example is clearer, more direct, and a much more elegant solution for what I'm trying to do. I can't figure out how the specific#c-AirshipJungleman29-20251117224500-Cl3phact0-20251117215400 part is derived/generated. Any hints or steers welcome. Cheers,Cl3phact0 (talk)16:49, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Cl3phact0 Click on the timestamp of your original post copies the linkhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#c-Cl3phact0-20251120164900-How_to_(linking) that you can paste. You can also link it as [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#c-Cl3phact0-20251120164900-How_to_(linking)]] →Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#c-Cl3phact0-20251120164900-How_to_(linking)Ponor (talk)17:16, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's linking to a specific reply on a talk page, rather than a completely arbitrary block-of-text. You can pick up the link from the timestamp on a comment -- either copy its link or just click on it and it'll be copied to your clipboard for you.
Technically you could also investigate the generated HTML on the page and find thespan with adata-mw-comment-start for that reply and grab itsid attribute, but that's overkill unless you're doing this in some sort of automated fashion.DLynch (WMF) (talk)17:18, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What I am specifically trying to achieve is exactly what was done in the example above (i.e., easily direct the reader to a specific comment within a thread so that they can read context without distractions or having to search through other passages). I think I understand now. The20251117 part is obviously the date, but I hadn't connected the dots that224500 and215400 was just a timestamp interval. This should work. Thanks! --Cl3phact0 (talk)17:40, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note if you click on the timestamp of the post to get the link, you don't have to know about any of the details regarding what the numbers mean. Before the timestamp link feature was enabled, I wrote my own script to copy the appropriate link (seeUser:Isaacl/script/copy-comment-link-to-clipboard). I changed it so now it generates a link with a "Special:GoToComment/" prefix. If the comment was moved to another page, as is done when a discussion thread is archived, the usual link you get from the timestamp will bring to the original page and display a popup showing to where the comment was moved. With the Special:GoToComment prefix, you'll be taken directly to the current location of the comment. (My script also copies links for headings, and you can choose if you want it in the format used by table of contents listings, or the permalink format.)isaacl (talk)17:55, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. That sounds very handy. I'll check it out. --Cl3phact0 (talk)19:50, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All pages withTemplate:Diagonal split header used for table cells

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Resolved
 –sapphaline (talk)07:44, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone make such list?sapphaline (talk)17:11, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Sapphaline: Click "What links here" under "Tools" (probably a drow-down menu at the top right for you). "transclusion" means a page is using the template.PrimeHunter (talk)18:25, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Sapphalinehttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Diagonal_split_header&limit=500&hidelinks=1&hideredirs=1--Ahecht (TALK
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I'm asking for a list of pages where this template is used for table cells (<td>), not just any table element.sapphaline (talk)19:35, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Sapphaline: Header cells are still table cells but OK, here is an imperfect article search:hastemplate:"Diagonal split header" insource:/\| *\{\{[Dd]iagonal split header/. A search inall namespaces finds a few more.PrimeHunter (talk)20:30, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Tysm!sapphaline (talk)07:44, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Purgecache issue from another Wikipedia

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Over on ang:, the Main Page has an issue: it has daily features like en:, using {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}}, but does not tick over to the next day: it can be stuck on one date for ages. It updates if we amend the page, or actively purge the cache: the main page is called 'Heafodtramet', so the clicking a 'Special:Purge/Heafodtramet' brings it to the current date. I did that again this evening.

Is there another way to write it so that {{CURRENTDAY}} etc reflects the current date without intervention?

Hogweard (talk)19:18, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The NewPP limit report in the HTML of the main page atang: says "Cache expiry: 2592000". That's in seconds and equals 30 days which is indeed far too much for a main page using{{CURRENTDAY}}.phab:T119366#6407916 byKrinkle in 2020 sounds like it should have been set to an hour. I don't know whether that still applies and I don't know a way to control it.PrimeHunter (talk)21:01, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Parsoid maybe? I see it mentionsComplications: [no‐section‐edit‐links, use‐parsoid], and if I checkhttps://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heafodtramet?useparsoid=0 it has the expected 3600-second expiry.Anomie21:24, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the ping. I recall in the past Parsoid did not yet support reduced cache expiries (e.g.T329067), but that was fixed two years ago and these days Parsoid isenabled by default on several Wikivoyage and Wiktionary wikis. Searching on Phabricator, I don't see any known issues that would explain this. Ping @Cscott.Krinkle (talk)15:37, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi all, yes, this is a bug in Parsoid we discovered recently. The same issue as tracked inT408741 which we've been working through and looks like there is something in Parsoid's metadata collection itself we may need to address to fix this.SSastry (WMF) (talk)15:54, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This bug is now fixed. I purged the page and it should refresh properly going forward.SSastry (WMF) (talk)22:15, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Hogweard it's not an ideal term solution, but I have an old script to trigger page purging which I wrote for Wikidata - I could set it up to run on the ang mainpage once a day at midnight as a stopgap, if that would help?Andrew Gray (talk)12:47, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That would be great - thanks.Hogweard (talk)19:18, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Hogweard okay, set up - it will run at one minute past midnight UK time (so 1.01 UTC in the summer, if it's still going) and purgeang:Heafodtramet. (It will also purgeang:user:AGbot which uses CURRENTTIME, so I have a test to make sure it's working - I guess we find out in half an hour.) The bot won't actually edit anything on the site. Happy to leave it running as long as is needed.Andrew Gray (talk)23:30, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Update - looks like it worked, hurrah! Hopefully that will solve the problem until such time as the parsoid bug is fixed.Andrew Gray (talk)00:15, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is really helpful - thank you.Hogweard (talk)07:14, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I posted above, but copying here for visibility - this bug is now fixed.SSastry (WMF) (talk)22:17, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

force-render svg

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is there a way (extension, script, etc) that i can force my browser to render svgs on wikipedia pages instead of fetching a thumbnail?

thanks in advance!

Specimen3757 (talk)20:32, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Specimen3757 Addmw.loader.load( '/w/index.php?title=User:Opencooper/svgReplace.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' ); toSpecial:MyPage/common.js Beware, some huge svg maps out there can prevent the page from loading.Ponor (talk)21:11, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
thanks!Specimen3757 (talk)04:57, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
T5593 ([Epic] SVG client side rendering).Commander Keane (talk)14:54, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Airport-Statistics

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I came acrossTemplate:Airport-Statistics atLa Crosse Regional Airport and the thing is a monster! I added "width=250px" to the template, but no luck. Any way of adding a size parameter to tame this beast? Thank you!Magnolia677 (talk)20:56, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Magnolia677: It'swidth=250 where the width is in pixels butpx is not written.width=350 is the smallest to work well for me in preview.PrimeHunter (talk)21:13, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimeHunter: Is there a way to shrink the height too? Any maybe float left? Thanks!Magnolia677 (talk)21:17, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: I don't see a way to control the height. There is no parameter to control alignment but it could be wrapped in<div>...</div>.PrimeHunter (talk)21:35, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimeHunter: I'll give that a try. Thanks!Magnolia677 (talk)21:50, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Magnolia677, I added|align= to the template. –Jonesey95 (talk)22:34, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That looks much cleaner. Thanks.Magnolia677 (talk)22:37, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimeHunter,Magnolia677: No, the Chart extension specifically prevents modifying the height to avoid layout changes when the chart is fully loaded. Seehttps://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/Chart/+/master/doc/adr/0005.%20Client%20side%20rendering.md--Ahecht (TALK
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It's certainly an odd table. SeeTemplate talk:Airport-Statistics#Need more updating.CambridgeBayWeather (#1 deranged),Uqaqtuq (talk),Huliva07:21, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spur webinar recording available

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Spur (the company from which we source IP Proxy information used by various tools) gave a webinar yesterday. Therecording is available on-line It's a little bit promotional, but I found lots of good information about how the residential proxy ecosystem works that I didn't know before, so if you do anything with blocking of IPs, it's probably worth watching.RoySmith(talk)15:35, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@RoySmith This looks really interesting, thanks for sharing ! —TheDJ (talkcontribs)19:20, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notes won't divide up by group

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I came across theOtago article atthis version and noticed that the extended footnote after the first word of the lead, which addresses pronunciation and the name of the area in Maori, wasn't appearing at the bottom of the article. I noticed that there wasn't a{{notelist}} tag at the bottom, so I added one but, when I previewed the result, the list still didn't appear. Investigating, I found that there was a{{notelist}} tag at the end of the first table of the Population section, evidently meant for displaying an extended footnote for the first data row, Dunedin, so both notes were being displayed there. I tried to solve the problem by setting distinct|group= parameters for each of the{{efn}}s, and setting the corresponding|group= parameters for the{{notelist}}s. But that didn't work: the two notes still both appear under the table, and the{{notelist}} in the Notes section I created at the bottom, above the References section, is empty. I saved my work underthis diff. Can someone see what's preventing the breakdown by group from occurring?Largoplazo (talk)18:55, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

{{efn}} only recognizes the following values for|group=: note, upper-alpha, upper-roman, lower-alpha, lower-greek, and lower-roman. Anything else defaults to lower-alpha. You tried to use "main" and "pop".Anomie22:55, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ahhhh. I hadn't grasped that the distinction had to be based on the numbering scheme. That's a little bizarre, actually, seems to me they should be independent dimensions, say, if you have 15 tables and want each to list its own set of notes at the bottom—and have them styled consistently, each starting from the beginning. But that's beside the point here. Thanks.Largoplazo (talk)03:25, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Set the group in each template to anything other thanlower-alpha and you're usually good to go.Nardog (talk)05:54, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Largoplazo: You can have multiple notelists, each using the same style and each with its own sequence, provided that where there are two in parallel, they use different styles. Consider this:
Text in article lead.{{efn|Note relevant to text in the lead}}==Section one==Table row 1{{efn|group=lower-roman|Note for section one, table row 1}}Table row 2{{efn|group=lower-roman|Note for section one, table row 2}}{{notelist|group=lower-roman}}==Section two==Table row 1{{efn|group=lower-roman|Note for section two, table row 1}}Table row 2{{efn|group=lower-roman|Note for section two, table row 2}}{{notelist|group=lower-roman}}==Notes=={{notelist}}
You can see a fuller version in actionhere. Notice how the lower-roman counter resets after each notelist, but doesn't affect the lower-alpha one. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk)23:39, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Now I see—in my version, both were consumed by the first notelist because everything was being treated as lower-alpha, so both footnotes got captured there. Cool, thanks!Largoplazo (talk)01:12, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Old talk page discussions left behind during multiple page moves

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Hi all, the articleAl-Marwani (current title at time of writing) was created in September, initially as a draft. The draft was then moved to mainspace by its creator and has been moved again over a dozen times since. Along the way, at least two different talk page discussions have been left behind with former page titles instead of following the article's moves to the most recent titles; specifically,here at the draft talk andhere at one of the former titles. I'm not sure how this happened, but in any case I'm wondering if there's a way to move/restore those talk page discussions to the article's current talk page? Is there a better way to do this now other than just copy-pasting the discussions? Thanks,R Prazeres (talk)07:30, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Working... (don't edit involved pages)PrimeHunter (talk)11:21, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@R Prazeres: Done in an administrator-only way which preserves the page history on the same talk page. There were 25 redirects to the article. I checked that only the two mentioned had other talk page content than redirects.PrimeHunter (talk)11:31, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much!R Prazeres (talk)17:15, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion atTemplate talk:Reflist § Excess styles

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 You are invited to join the discussion atTemplate talk:Reflist § Excess styles. An editor has requested that the discussion be advertised here.Anomie13:51, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redlinked category, again

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The latest run ofSpecial:WantedCategories features an obvious nonsenseCategory:Articles proposed for merging from ' +mergeHelper nowMonthYear() +', being autogenerated by code in a user's private js settings page. Since I can't edit that, but the redlink can't stay on the page and can't be created as it would never be expected to exist anyway, could somebody who can edit js pages make it go away? Thanks.Bearcat (talk)16:50, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with scripts should be reported toWP:IANB.Izno (talk)17:11, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There were a lot of recent undiscussed changes toTemplate:Merge,Template:Merge from andTemplate:Merge to, mostly byFaviFake (talk ·contribs), who made insufficient prototyping in the template sandboxes, and didnot use the testcases pages at all. I've reverted the template changes, and raised the protection to Template-protected. Honestly, I could have blocked FaviFake outright for breaching a final warning not to mess about in highly-visible pages without discussion. I might still do that. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk)10:58, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Of relevance:User talk:FaviFake#Mergers. Which given that user's track record, will get deleted as soon as a third thread is created on that page. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk)11:13, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Special:UserRights

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Why is there so much additional space onSpecial:UserRights all of a sudden? The two columns seem to be twice the distance apart and each line is as if there's two line breaks between them. -The BushrangerOne ping only22:38, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

phab:T117884.* Pppery *it has begun...22:44, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, they "improved" it. Figures. -The BushrangerOne ping only04:36, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@The Bushranger You can make it more compact by adding the following to yourSpecial:MyPage/common.js:if(mw.config.get('wgCanonicalSpecialPageName')=='Userrights'){$('.oo-ui-fieldsetLayout-group .oo-ui-fieldLayout.oo-ui-labelElement').css('margin-top',0)}.--Ahecht (TALK
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17:00, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Much better, thank you! -The BushrangerOne ping only23:02, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Are these scripts safe

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Hello I wanted to ask if these scripts are safe as I am not very familiar with them:User:Jackmcbarn/editProtectedHelperUser:Ais523/votesymbolsUser:Awesome Aasim/xfdvote.GothicGolem29(Talk)01:42, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@GothicGolem29: Yes, they are.Graham87 (talk)06:03, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks!GothicGolem29(Talk)10:31, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

{{{case: ~ }}}

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What does{{{case: ~ }}} mean in{{{case: {{{1|}}}|{{{default|}}}}}}? (fromthis)

Ialready asked a question on thehelp desk, and they advised me to ask here.Whatback11 (talk)14:59, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

{{{case: ~ }}} would mean the value of the template parameter namedcase: ~.{{{case: {{{1|}}}}}} would mean the value of a template parameter whose name is based on the value of parameter1.
That very old template was intended to be used something like{{switch|value | case: a = something | case: b = something else | case: c = etc | default = a default value }}, and the{{{case: {{{1|}}}|{{{default|}}}}}} handled selecting the appropriate named parameter based on the passed invalue. These days we havemw:Extension:ParserFunctions that lets the same thing be done more efficiently (and with slightly different syntax) using#switch.Anomie16:08, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Minerva not showing edit count and user groups for certain users (?)

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See this diff on your phone:Special:Diff/1323780893. If you're on PC, go tohttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pppery&curid=50076420&diff=1323780893&oldid=1323715776&useskin=minerva, then shrink your viewport. —DVRTed (Talk)19:25, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds like you're using a gadget, as in diff view those things are not normally displayed.Izno (talk)19:32, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, they are; it's not a gadget thing—I tried it on incognito too. (Sorry for imgur) How it should be:https://imgur.com/a/2bwadQK, how it is:https://imgur.com/a/BDYYrrMDVRTed (Talk)19:36, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't know this mobile feature which was poorly described. CompareSpecial:Diff/1323787535 by Izno andSpecial:Diff/1323780893 by Theknoledgeableperson in the mobile version in a narrow window. The bottom of the Izno diff has an up-arrow which displays "148,425 edits | 3 user groups" and a circled "i" icon to show the groups. The Theknoledgeableperson doesn't show any of this. Tests with other users show that you only get the info if the user has at least one user group (which may be extended confirmed). It makes some sense to not write "0 user groups". I don't know why the edit count is omitted in that case but it may be deliberate.PrimeHunter (talk)20:38, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is a known issue and a patch has already been merged - please seeT402297 for more.SamWalton (talk)21:13, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FAQs at the top of pages don't show as FAQs when viewed on mobile

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On the BLP noticeboard, people are sometimes directed to the FAQs at the top of talk pages. However, on mobile view, this is all hidden behind a non-obvious sign saying "more about this page". Is there anyway of making that clearer?Red Fiona (talk)21:46, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On some pages, likeTalk:Adam's Bridge andTalk:Murder of George Floyd, the FAQ is duplicated on a pinned post that is not archived, so mobile readers can see it. I think that's the only workaround.331dot (talk)21:58, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Learn more about this page" at top of mobile talk pages is made withMediaWiki:Discussiontools-ledesection-button. I suspect it's a pure text label which doesn't allow wikitext to test for a /FAQ page likeTalk:Adam's Bridge/FAQ and display something different.PrimeHunter (talk)23:22, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's my concern. I know to press that to find the FAQ, would someone not used to Wikipedia know to do that?Red Fiona (talk)20:21, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stubborn Harv cite error...

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I've been going throughCategory:Harv and Sfn no-target errors, fixing errors, and have come across a thorny ref that I have been unable to solve. Could some of you experts take a look atA & R Recording and see how to fix Ref #18 "Master Cutting Room"? Thanks,Shearonink (talk)23:19, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

{{MusicBrainz meta}} (should that really be used in the article? – meta templates generally aren't suitable for mainspace) doesn't support|ref=. You might rewrite that reference as:
{{wikicite|ref={{SfnRef|Master Cutting Room}}|reference={{MusicBrainz meta|type=place|mbid=f97bd920-fe68-440f-b515-e078e7894f97|name=Master Cutting Room}} at[[MusicBrainz]].}}
or convert{{MusicBrainz meta}} to a{{cite web}} template ...
Trappist the monk (talk)00:08, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Lol, took me forever but I think I finally got it *done*. -Shearonink (talk)03:39, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-48

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Latesttech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • Last week, theWikimedia Search Team recreated the "DWIM" (Do What I Mean) gadget functionality server-side, for Russian and Hebrew Wikipedias. This feature adds cross-keyboard suggestions to the standard search-box suggestions. For example, searching forcxfcnmt on Russian Wikipedia will now add suggestions forсчастье ("happiness") that the user probably intended. They plan to enable this feature for other Russian and Hebrew wikis this week.[3]
  • Later this week, users of the "Improved Syntax Highlighting"beta feature will have syntax highlighting available inDiscussionTools. This requires that the "Enable editing tools in source mode" preference be set.[4]
  • Campaign events extension – the set of tools for coordinating events and other on-wiki collaborations has now been deployed to all Wikimedia wikis. A new feature known asCollaborative contribution to help organizers and participants see the impact of activities has also been added. Join the upcominglearning session to see the new feature in action and share your feedback.
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How to get a specific property of an wikidata object, in Lua.

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Hello everyone, i am trying to modernise the imdb name module of a version of wikipedia in an other language (that supports lua), to use lua, and i cannot understand how can i get the property P345 of a an actor wikidata object. What do i have to do, do i need to get the wikidata object of the wikipedia page and using mw.wikibase.getEntity(), to get all the properties of the person/object and then from the extracted wikibase entity somehow query the P345 property.

Note: I have also noticed when i try to run functions on the entity object that got returned, by assigning the wikibase.getEntity() result to a local "a" variable and then executing a.getEntity(l it fails, with an error along the lines of "You cannot run operations on a local variable defined wikibase entity".

Mant08 (talk)01:18, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can use getBestStatements in most cases, seehttps://doc.wikimedia.org/Wikibase/master/php/docs_topics_lua.html#mw_wikibase_getBestStatements for full details. Yes you will need to work with the lua table that is returned. — Martin(MSGJ · talk)09:46, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a tool that scans new talk message for keywords?

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The problem I have is the decentralised nature of technical help questions in Wikimedia. For example, if a user has a problem with inserting OpenStreetMap (OSM) data into an article they might post on the article's talk page, the Help desk, a related WikiProject, thegraphics lab,mediawiki, meta or Commons.

Is there a tool that scans talk page comments for keywords, to connect helpers with questions? To reduce the amount of work it needs perform it could work on a defined list (like "OSM", "OpenStreetMap", etc), only scan once per day, limit to lingua franca English wikis and only look at new section creations. Would this sort of thing be feasible on Toolforge? The defined keyword list would need some thought, but things like "OSM", "{convert}", and "copyright" are some of the things I would look out for.Commander Keane (talk)07:39, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just use search and order by edit date ?https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=last_edit_desc&search=openstreetmap+OSM&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns1=1TheDJ (talkcontribs)08:28, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Package installation help

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Not the right place to ask, but I wondered if any of the experts here might be able to help meover at meta with a font package installation question for a tool.Sean.hoyland (talk)17:04, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:The Amazing Race 7

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The archiver does not seem to be working atTalk:The Amazing Race 7. Any advice or help would be appreciated!Bgsu98(Talk)21:19, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think the bot just didn't understand the timestamps. I did it manually.Izno (talk)21:31, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much!Bgsu98(Talk)21:51, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hex Triplets UTC

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The table below was taken fromHexadecimal clock and truncated by way of showing thehex triplet colors. The nine used (#0000, 0100, #0200, #0400, #0800, #1000, #8000, #F000, and #8000) are upon review, however, all zeroed out, i.e. the numerals are all zero. Get back into editing, and lo! they are all back. Most curious!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kencf0618/sandbox

no name#0000000%0%0%0°0%0%0%0%
no name#0000000%0%0%0°0%0%0%0%
no name#0000000%0%0%0°0%0%0%0%
no name#0000000%0%0%0°0%0%0%0%
no name#0000000%0%0%0°0%0%0%0%
no name#0000000%0%0%0°0%0%0%0%
no name#0000000%0%0%0°0%0%0%0%
no name#0000000%0%0%0°0%0%0%0%
no name#0000000%0%0%0°0%0%0%0%

kencf0618 (talk)02:48, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kencf0618: The documentation atTemplate:Colort/Color lists the template parameters; they all have names. Your examples do not name the parameter, so it is being ignored. --John of Reading (talk)07:41, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a working example to your sandbox. --John of Reading (talk)07:51, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Are Page Previews on by default for new logged-in users?

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mw:Page Previews § FAQ says "Is this enabled by default for logged-in users? No." Is that correct for the English Wikipedia? I'm asking because atHelp talk:Link § "The tooltip does not show the page one will arrive at." some logged-in users say Page Previews were on by default for them. They're on for me, but I don't remember whether that was by default or I turned them on, and I don't know how to check. I could create a new account just to test this, but that seems a bit wasteful. :-) Ideally, an answer would point to somewhere in the MediaWiki source code, or on Phabricator, or a configuration here on enwiki, or an official announcement. That would be awesome. Thanks! —Chrisahn (talk)04:11, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I checked my account on a couple of other Wikimedia projects. Page Previews are off for them, and I don't think I turned them off, so it looks like the claim "Is this enabled by default for logged-in users? No." is correct for most other projects. P.P.S. I think I recall that Page Previews were enabled by default on the German Wikipedia a few years ago, but I didn't like them at first and turned them off. Maybe the claim in question is correct for most (all?) projects except enwiki and dewiki? —Chrisahn (talk)04:18, 26 November 2025 (UTC)if[reply]
@Chrisahn: I triedSpecial:Preferences/reset in an alternative account and Page Previews was disabled after the reset.PrimeHunter (talk)12:05, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Commons icon link on file pages

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On a Wikipedia file page likeFile:Example.png, where it's a file from Commons, if you click the Commons icon in the top right, it currently takes you to the Wikipedia page for that icon,File:Commons-logo.svg. It used to take you to the Commons version of the file you were looking at.

This is possibly a very recent change to a template or the backend, as I only started encountering it yesterday, presumably it being my muscle memory way of navigating to Commons from a Wikipedia file page.archive.org shows that it changed less than a month ago.

Worth changing back, if this is a simple template issue? Few users would want or expect to be taken to the logo SVG page when clicking the icon.Belbury (talk)10:07, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's a change made for licensing reasons. It has been recently discussed and I'm trying to find the previous discussion.Nthep (talk)11:22, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 225#Change in File Page Link BehaviourNthep (talk)11:24, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Aha, thank you. That makes sense, then, as things stand with the licence.Belbury (talk)11:46, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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