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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 17, 2023.

Evil-speaking

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.Salviogiuliano08:53, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Probably a case ofWP:REDYES; most of what I can find on this term is from Christian websites discussing it in the context of a biblical quotation.An anonymous username, not my real name22:29, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Baal-zebub In Rabbinical Literature

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 3#Baal-zebub In Rabbinical Literature

More "upcoming" no longer upcoming

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The result of the discussion wasdelete. --Patar knight -chat/contributions22:27, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Another batch of "upcoming" no longer upcoming.Steel1943 (talk)21:38, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Didn't know this existed until today:WP:UFILM is relevant here. I assume it was created as a result ofall the previous discussions that resulted in delete.Steel1943 (talk)14:36, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. These are no longer in use and are now also misleading. Better to default to our search engine if someone actually writes one of these.Gonnym (talk)14:29, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Turkish invasion

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 30#Turkish invasion

Template:Station-stub

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The result of the discussion wasdisambiguate. While both deletion and (weak) keep were proposed, disambiguation is the only solution to sway multiple editors.signed,Rosguilltalk01:44, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is an ambiguous template term. I think this template redirect should be disambiguated. FromBassie f (his talk page)07:12, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguated how? It points toTemplate:Railstation-stub which is less ambiguous. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk)18:07, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
SeeTemplate:Radio-station-stub @Redrose64 FromBassie f (his talk page)20:26, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also seeTemplate:Tv-station-stub @Redrose64 FromBassie f (his talk page)20:30, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I know that those exist, as do several others with "station-stub" in the name. What I mean is, exactly what is to be done in order to "disambiguate" this redirect? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk)23:45, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: nominator makes a great point that this isn't specific enough to point to just one template, but I've never seen a disambiguation page in template space and as far as I'm aware that's totally nonstandard. If, however, it turns out that's a wrong assumption and a dab page is fine, then consider me in support for that.QuietHere (talk)15:57, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Template dab pages are uncommon but they exist.MClay1 (talk)10:09, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Ketchup chips

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The result of the discussion wasdelete. There appears to be a consensus that the provided sources are enough to establish notability forKetchup chips, making this aWP:REDYES deletion to encourage article creation.signed,Rosguilltalk18:15, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how useful this redirect is. It redirects to an empty section that contains a "Main article" link toList of potato chip brands which only mentions ketchup once as a seasoning for potato chips in Canada, the specific term "ketchup chips" only appears in the source for ketchup. I'm leaning delete unless someone can think of a better place or thinks they could be mentioned more in the relevant article. ―Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#654500:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • @Thryduulf: I can add some content later (when I'm not on my phone). But I've been under the impression for years that deletion isn't cleanup. If someone types this in, they know that ketchup potato chips exist. I frequently see redirects to related topics in NPP. Being redirected to information about regional varieties of potato chips isn't confusing, although more context could be provided.Clovermoss🍀(talk)17:54, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Just knowing that these exist is not helpful - someone searching for this almost certainly already knows that. They want to know more information than that, and we should not mislead people into thinking we have when we don't.Thryduulf (talk)18:03, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • As far as I can tell, the reasons given in this discussion meet the "keep" rationales for redirects as outlinedhere and there are no valid reasons for deletion. I really don't understand how a redlink is somehow more useful to readers than some brief information about what they're looking for, even if it could be more detailed.Clovermoss🍀(talk)18:19, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:RDEL 10 says "If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject." Also, I'm not opposed to keeping the redirect so long as the redirect is retargeted to somewhere where one can get information as to what ketchup chips are other than that they exist. ―Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#654518:36, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, "They're not some niche product" might be true for somewhere where ketchup chips are popular (Like Canada), however I've never seen a single store here in the US selling them. ―Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#654518:38, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • (edit conflict) Isn't #10 used as a reason for G6 deletions? As in, delete this redirectso someone can create an article there.{{R with possibilities}} is yet another redirect category that is commonly used and the idea of deleting something because it could be better doesn't make sense at all to me.Clovermoss🍀(talk)18:43, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't do G6 deletions enough to know. But there'sWP:REDYES as well. To me, a redirect is practically useless if it simply confirms that such a thing exists and doesn't provide information on said thing. ―Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#654518:48, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • That's where I've seen R10 used. As for REDYES, the reason for keeping the redirect is similar. We could have stubs for every regional variety of potato chips that meets GNG or we could have some detailed content about it at the main potato chip article. Both are valid options. But to me the redirect encourages someone to improve the prexisting content. Until someone actually creates an article about it, the redirect is useful and makes sense.Clovermoss🍀(talk)18:53, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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WaveLight

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The result of the discussion waskeep.signed,Rosguilltalk18:14, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The term "WaveLight" does not appear at all in the target page. (Note that there is a separate page "Wavelight" (note the different capitalisation) that has a hatnote pointing to "WaveLight".)PatricKiwi (talk)08:57, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: It looks like the nomination concern has been mooted by edits to the target, but since it's been less than seven days since that change a relist seems in order to confirm that the changes are sticking.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,signed,Rosguilltalk19:59, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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South Ukraine counteroffensive

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい)17:41, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A representative of Ukraine's military has declared Ukraine intends to do a counteroffensive against Russia on spring to cut Russia's corridor connecting Crimea with the mainland[4]. This corridor is located in Ukraine's south. But the current target article is also about a counteroffensive in the south. This redirect is ambiguous and will turn problematic in the future. Besides, the most appropriate title for such a new counteroffensive will most likely be something like "2023 Ukrainian southern counteroffensive". A disambiguation page is not necessary. So I believe it is best to delete the redirect. It does not have any link and received one single view in the last 30 days anyways.SuperΨDro16:51, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Pithius

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The result of the discussion wasdelete. While alternatives to deletion were raised in the discussion, no real opposition to deletion has materialized.signed,Rosguilltalk05:54, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No mention at the target anymore. Therefore, I recommenddeletion.Veverve (talk)15:34, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • According to both the initial stub article and the now removed section in the target[5], "Pithius" is one of the demons in the classification inFrancis Barrett'sThe Magus. The version of this textthis text that I've had a look at doesn't seem to mention this name, although it does mentionPythius. It could be an alternative name from a different edition of this text, but either way the topic doesn't seem worth providing navigation for. I'm tempted by the idea of creating a slightly non-standard dab page from Jay's list above: these items are all difficult to spell, and "Pithius" is a plausible misspelling for all of them. I wouldn't leave that to the search engine, as it doesn't seem capable of handling it. –Uanfala (talk)17:42, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Jan Huygen van Linschoten, Market of Goa, Itinerario

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The result of the discussion wasno consensus. After two relists, editors remain evenly divided between keep and delete.signed,Rosguilltalk05:52, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is a procedural nomination, given that it has been nominated multiple times for CSD and it has been declined over and over again. In an effort to break that cycle, I am asking the wider community to have its say. The article was at its former titlefrom February 2022 toFebruary 2023. Arguments for its deletion can be seen atTalk:Jan Huygen van Linschoten, Market of Goa, Itinerario,Special:Permalink/1140019916, andSpecial:Permalink/1139589271. Additionally, seeUser talk:LlywelynII § Criteria for speedy deletion (permalink).Sdrqaz (talk)01:41, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per LlywelynII, mainly because of the out of order terms. The redirect title should not be a list of search terms in random order. Also, I don't know why the target has a disambiguated title. Move the target toMarket of Goa. Jay 💬10:29, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep because this was the title of the article for a year. I agree this is a very, very unlikely search term, but givenK4 it is likely there will be outdated links from other sites which pointed to this article and therefore now instead point to this redirect.J947edits20:17, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    If you have a single example of that, there might be some merit in keeping the redirect. As is, no, I don't think the traffic on the page speaks to anyone having noticed and linked it. — LlywelynII13:07, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I disagree with this statement; I reckon from RfD experience that at least half the time in a case like such the redirect does get views from old links. The average potential harm in deleting this is greater than the slight maintenance that eventuates from it being kept.
    Buuuuuuut, now that you ask for a single example, usingthis Backlink Checker I can give you one:[6] (and[7]). Not much, especially judging how little-used this redirect has been even while an RfD has been ongoing, but it is something. It's a pain to others if it's deleted, and redirects exist just for navigation.J947edits04:05, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Dennis Rogers

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The result of the discussion wasno consensus.(non-admin closure)Compassionate727 (T·C)15:08, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect spelling left over from old move★Trekker (talk)01:27, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Mike Rogers (Alabama politician), full name Michael Dennis Rogers
  2. Dennis Rogers,Vancouver Canadians minor league baseball team manager in 2003, 2004, and 2006
  3. Dennis Rogers, columnist forThe Raleigh News & Observer inBarbecue in North Carolina andLexington Barbecue Festival
  4. Dennis Rogers (strongman & arm wrestler), inGrip strength
  5. Jay "Saint" Smith ("an outreach pastor named Dennis Rogers took Smith under his wing")
  6. Dennis Rogers, volunteer and recipient in the2019 New Year Honours
  7. Dennis Rogers, United States Marine Corps Brigadier General, inKemper Military School
  8. The Dennis Rogers Show (2007),Roger Rohatgi, lead actor
  9. Dennis Rogers, fictional British Intelligence agent sent to rendezvous with a Swiss Banker inJames Bond 007: Light of My Death
Of that group, I would guess that the general is likely notable, and at least some of the rest are noteworthy, so there is enough to disambiguate from what is currently a misspelling.BD2412T19:36, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per J947, and rely on search results because there are several mentions of the name on enwiki. Agree withAn anonymous username that the DAB is unnecessary. I went through the drafted dab and all entries it led to, and I don't see that a DAB page more helpful for the minor mentions in articles, than what a search would provide. Some entries are really stretched, such as the The Dennis Rogers Show linked from a page of its co-host. Disagree with Peter James, that searching for "Dennis Rogers" will not show up Denis Rogers. It does now, and will work even after Dennis Rogers is deleted. Jay 💬14:14, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disambiguate or delete - I think that entries for the Vancouver Canadians manager and brigadier general, plus the current target, are just enough to justify a disambiguation page. I don't disagree with the deletion arguments but at this point in the discussion I think it's going to be very difficult to sway a consensus for deletion.signed,Rosguilltalk19:34, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Digvijay Chautala

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Isabella Losa

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The result of the discussion wasProcedural close. There's already an AFD for that page.(non-admin closure)LilianaUwU(talk /contributions)19:07, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Make it a redirect toIsabella Losa. The Spanish wikipedia has a similar redirect, and the first citation on the target article is[8], rough translation "Isabel, the nonexistent wise-lady who even has a street".DavidLeeLambert (talk)18:02, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural close – RFD is for discussion on what is already a redirect. Discussion regarding turning an article into a redirect falls underWP:AFD, and a discussion is already ongoing on the page.Randi Moth (talk)18:24, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Ramanagar

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The result of the discussion wasdisambiguate.wbm1058 (talk)19:00, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect leads to an article about a city with a different spelling,Ramanagara (with an 'a' on the end). That article contains no uses of the redirect's spelling. There is also a disambiguation page atRamanagar (disambiguation)Ramanagar (disambiguation) that lists other places that do use the redirect's spelling. Moreover, that disambiguation page also lists places with a third spelling, "Ramnagar" (without an 'a' between the 'm' and the 'n'). For that third spelling, there is also another disambiguation page atRamnagar. That different disambiguation page also has a mixture of spellings, some of which use the first "Ramanagar" spelling! See also the recent discussion atWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 3#Ram Nagar, about a fourth spelling. There are only three articles that link to theRamanagar redirect. My inclination would be to merge the two disambiguation pages and redirectRamanagar there. However, I don't really know whether the spellings should be considered distinct and whether there is aWP:PRIMARYTOPIC or not. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk)17:49, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Urdu culture

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The result of the discussion wasretarget toUrdu-speaking people#Culture.(non-admin closure)EpicPupper (talk)18:12, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget toUrdu-speaking people#Culture as not all Pakistanis are speakers of Urdu.An anonymous username, not my real name16:27, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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33-0

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The result of the discussion wasdelete. --Patar knight -chat/contributions22:29, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Refers to a score during the game, highly unlikely search term. ~Eejit43 (talk)12:55, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. While the top couple of results on Google are for this match, the majority of results are for a dark brown shade of hair colouring, sub-strings of various product codes and a subclass ofBritish Rail Class 33 locomotives. It's far too ambiguous to be usefully disambiguated.Thryduulf (talk)17:06, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: per nom. Very unlikely search term and, as Thryduulf said, highly ambiguous.greyzxqtalk17:11, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom as the term is ambiguous.Steel1943 (talk)17:16, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - individual regular season NFL games get standalone articles? This wasn't even the game's final score. Ambiguous per Thryduulf; search results would be better.Ivanvector (Talk/Edits)12:48, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete: There is some precedent for redirects like this (being a score that the losing team was up by before a significant comeback) existing, notably28-328-3; however, that game was the Super Bowl and 28-3 entered the lexicon far more becoming the dominant meaning of that term, whereas 33-0 has not permeated the zeitgeist in the same way. As noted by Thryduulf, there are multiple possible targets. The weak delete is that this redirect does seem to have a surprising amount of usage ~2 hits/day from the beginning of 2023 until the day before it was nominated; however, the ambiguity of the redirect doesn't override that.TartarTorte12:34, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Journocaust

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.signed,Rosguilltalk18:12, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article, seems to refer to a separate event/name. ~Eejit43 (talk)12:52, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Recommend deletion, or redirect toSocial media use by Donald Trump as the only search results I found for the term relate to Trump's retweeting of an antisemitic Tweet in 2017, and 4Chan posts using the term.[9]Bakkster Man (talk)13:31, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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List of Chinese films of 2021/List of Chinese films of 2022

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.Salviogiuliano08:55, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Information for [2021 and] 2022 films is not included in the 2020 list ~Eejit43 (talk)12:43, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Grade (education)

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The result of the discussion wasretarget toGrade.Salviogiuliano08:58, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Grade (education)" is ambiguous with education grades likeseventh grade (which thegrade dab poiints toEducational stage). It is confusing that the dab's first entry was "Grade (education)", which I incorrectly linked to, thinking it was the "grade" for the year in a student's educational stage—it was not. Grade (education) was actually moved back in 2013 with the reasonreduce conflation with Educational stage, aka "grades".[10]

It's uncommon for a parenthetically disambiguated term to still be ambiguous. I suggest redirecting "Grade (education)" to theGrade dab as an{{R from incomplete disambiguation}}. —Bagumba (talk)07:55, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Another similar redirect,Grades (education)Grades (education), exists.Steel1943 (talk)16:37, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Given the age of this discussion, I suggest either nominating that separately after this is closed citing the outcome or relisting this discussion early to include that one. My recommendation would be to retarget to the Grade dab page as an{{R avoided double redirect}}.Thryduulf (talk)18:50, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Or justboldly make "grades" consistent based on consensus established for "grade" here. —Bagumba (talk)01:24, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox Small, Medium, or Large Lump of Rock, Gas, or Ice, possibly Spherical, that May (or May Not) be a Planet

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The result of the discussion wasdelete perWP:G3. .(non-admin closure)Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#654518:44, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete implausible redirect. Clearly an in-joke but the page doesn't actually need to exist.MClay1 (talk)05:24, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not a plausible or valid redirect or even search term.Gonnym (talk)10:00, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Phulrraa

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The result of the discussion waskeep. Jay 💬14:50, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target, and does not seem to be a plausible typo.Onel5969TT me18:13, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment: @Onel5969 This is one of the common spellings of this locality used in media that describe it. For example:
In the local language(s) this "rr" sound is spelled with ڑ which does not have an equivalent in English. So the number of possible ad hoc spellings that exist for the place name using the English/Latin alphabet or numerous. I do not actually think it is necessary to mention every possible variant spelling in the target article, as this just causes unneccessary clutter. Likewise the "ph"/"p" is because the sound at the beginning is pronounced differently in Urdu, Punjabi, and Hindko. In the first language, it is aspirated like "ph," in the other two languages it is not as these languages use a tonal pronunciation in this position (also something which has no equivalent in English).عُثمان (talk)18:34, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The presence or absence of "h" at the end is also due to a difference in the aspiration/tonality reflexes of Urdu vs. Punjabi and Hindko. Word final "h" is used for tone in the latter two languages, but functions as a consonant in the first.عُثمان (talk)18:37, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Oh woops, it did not even occur to me that this redirect had two "a"s at the end. I had intended to make this forPhulrra. Carry on.
عُثمان (talk)18:40, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It's not uncommon to seeaa in informal romanisations of the longa (=ā), and عُثمان has explained the other apparent discrepancies. But even if that name were incorrect (which it is not), then the redirect would still be worth preserving as an{{R from move}} (the article used to be at that title from 2007 until last December). –Uanfala (talk)19:14, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Pepper sauce

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The result of the discussion wasSetindexify.signed,Rosguilltalk05:38, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pepper sauce could refer to either this, or hot sauce, or any sauce made with peppers. In fact the redirect when it was first made originally redirected toHot sauce until it was nominated for speedy deletion in 2010, then was redirected to amore specific pepper sauce for many years, then changed to the current target just over a year ago. Retarget back tohot sauce or find another target?Colgatepony234 (talk)03:28, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Color Lines (Loop)

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Alan Umstead (musician)

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The result of the discussion wasdelete. Jay 💬14:45, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

While Alan Umstead may be a member of Nashville String Machine (according to RateYourMusic), that name is never mentioned in the article and I was unable to find any additional information on Umstead's assocation with the group. I think it's an incredibly unlikely search anyway, but on the off-chance it is kept, I'd also suggest it be moved toAlan Umstead to remove the unnecessary disambiguation.Sock(tock talk)18:52, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The Catholic Answer

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.signed,Rosguilltalk18:12, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No mention at target. I recommentdeletion.Veverve (talk)18:39, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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.test (international domain name)

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The result of the discussion wasretarget to.test.(non-admin closure)CycloneYoristalk!22:52, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect pointed toSpecial:Permalink/362520528#Test_TLDs when it was created. In the meantime, the part has been split into a separate lemma with the shorter name.test. In my opinion, the longer redirection would only be misleading and could therefore be removed.F10sh (talk)09:47, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Chicken fart

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.Salviogiuliano09:01, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This was created "to discourage vandalism" which isn't a valid reason to create a redirect. Delete as pointless.An anonymous username, not my real name02:05, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Life Before Earth

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Akademitscheski nautschno-isdatelski, proiswodstwenno-poligrafitscheski i knigorasprostranitelski zentr Rossijskoi akademii nauk "Isdatelstwo Nauka"

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