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July 24

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 24, 2022.

Errant

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 31#Errant

Shagos

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 31#Shagos

John Nash (Mathematician)

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion waskeep perWP:SNOW.(non-admin closure)CycloneYoristalk!12:07, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

PerWP:RCAPS. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk ·contribs ·email)18:57, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Elifism

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The result of the discussion wasdelete. Jay08:58, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target, results on Google Scholar all appear to either be typos of "elitism" or references toElif Shafak, who does not appear to be associated with antinatalism. Delete unless a justification can be provided.signed,Rosguilltalk18:51, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it'sreally difficult to search for because every search engine in existence is absolutelyconvinced you meant "elitism" and you have to do all kinds of tricks to get it to properly search for "efilism." It appears in some Indian periodicals. E.g. "It Is Immoral To Have Children. Here’s Why" in The Hindu Business Line (July 2017), referencedhere, or in online discussions, here's aQuora discussion and here's asubreddit. I think thereis technically a difference between them? Like, antinatalism is in relation with just human life, and efilism is meant to apply more broadly toall sentient life? Thus the name ("life" backwards). But I thought I might as well just try to get it to point somewhere for now.
...wait....squints eyes
We're just talking about the eLIFism redirect, not the eFILism redirect, aren't we? Yeah, that's a typo/dyslexia on my part, the redirect should come from eFILism, sorry.Fephisto (talk)20:24, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, go ahead and delete, this was dyslexia on my part.Fephisto (talk)20:28, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Fire of knowledge

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The result of the discussion wasdelete. There was a suggestion that it could be disambiguated, but no targets were suggested, and others did not find them. Jay08:57, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is solely linked on articles about Chinese philosophy and redirects to a Christian concept. Namewise it seems like a completely different concept from Logos and probably should be its own article if it exists in the first placeImmanuelle 💗(please tag me)18:13, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:NETHERLANDS

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The result of the discussion waskeep and redirectedWikipedia:Netherlands, which was previously a dab, toWikipedia:WikiProject Netherlands.(non-admin closure)CycloneYoristalk!07:02, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Netherlands is currently a disambiguation page, and these differ only in capitalisation.1234qwer1234qwer417:45, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Rambut

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.plicit23:51, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No affinity for IndonesianPlantdrew (talk)16:56, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Whip Gate - Incidents During the Biden Administration

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.plicit23:52, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This read to me like aWP:NPOV violation. It sounds like this was a direct action of the Biden Administration, which is not accurate. According to the article, Biden was "deeply troubled about it." That, combined with the poor formatting, recommends me todelete it. --Tavix(talk)15:45, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Onvaccation

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.plicit23:52, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not a likely typo for such a common word most people learn in their first year of English class.Nothing links here. The page hasvirtually no views since its creation and no page history except for my failed speedy nomination. I don't see a point why this should stay. ~~ lol1VNIO🎌 (talk •contribs)12:39, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Whatpeople learn in their first year of English class is generally irrelevant since this is not a prerequisite to reading the English Wikipedia. However, since this spelling appears to be completely unlikely and vastly different from the actual word (Onvaccation does not exist in mainspace either), I agree this should be deleted.1234qwer1234qwer415:16, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I just wanted to make a point saying that it's very unlikely, but on second thought some people mistakethere,their andthey're all the time. ~~ lol1VNIO🎌 (talk •contribs)15:34, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, likely typo / different (unspaced) convention for{{On vacation}}Headbomb {t ·c ·p ·b}05:57, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, right,{{Onvacation}} exists too. Why did I read the target as "vaccination"?Vaccation still seems rather unlikely to me, so consider my previous vote a weak delete.1234qwer1234qwer410:29, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Mother of Pride

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The result of the discussion waskeep.signed,Rosguilltalk02:10, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The phrase "Mother of Pride" has been removed from the Brenda Howard article because of lack of reliable sourcing. See Brenda Howard Talk page for more info. The redirect was added by Brenda Howard's partner. I believe this should be deleted under reason 4 - self-promotion or reason 8 - novel or obscure synonym for an article name that is not mentioned in the targetDuke9000 (talk)22:26, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak Keep - I agree that the term is not well sourced enough to be in the article itself, but a redirect needn't be well sourced, merely useful. Can we demonstrate that the term is used by some people? Yes, two blogs and a magazine article apparently do so, according to what I skimmed on the talk page. Is the target ambiguous? It doesn't seem that anyone else is attempting to claim the title, so it looks unambiguous to me. I think that's enough for a redirect, though not actual article inclusion. That said, I'm certainly open to arguments otherwise, and I don't feel strongly about keeping the redirect.Fieari (talk)05:26, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. If there's no mention in the article then it's confusing, and not helpful or useful, to redirect there.Shhhnotsoloud (talk)08:47, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Comment there is currently no mention of this term in the article, but she is referred to by this name in multiple other articles. It was formerly in this article but removed in August last year, with detailed explanation on the talk page (which basically says there are no sources that don't originate with the Wikipedia article). The user who added it objected in June this year, but a third editor agreed with the first. Given the sourced mentions in multiple other articles, but claims of citogenesis, I think it would be useful to have a better-attended discussion about the term so I will flag it up to the LGBT project. Meanwhile, I've addedThe Mother of Pride (a redirect to the same target) to this discussion.Thryduulf (talk)09:34, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep- I'd say the reasoning of Fieari is sound and I see no harm in either of these redirects being kept.Historyday01 (talk)20:07, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There was a suggestion at the LGBT project of adding back the mention at the target, but it did not happen and the discussion has been stalled since July 18.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay15:18, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - An interesting case. Her claim to this titlecertainly appears dubious, but as even that highly critical letter points out, it has nonetheless become a "commonly used descriptive phrase" for her. Given the lack of other claimants, that seems like enough that we can fairly confidently say that anyone searching that term would be looking for her article. -Elmer Clark (talk)06:15, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Little Punjab

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The result of the discussion wasdisambiguate.signed,Rosguilltalk02:01, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Little Punjab" is too ambiguous, and can refer to any Punjabi diaspora community. For instance, a quick Google News search shows that this term is also applied toSouthall, another place where many Punjabis settled. —Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung,mellohi! (投稿)02:40, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Even though consensus for disambiguating has been reached, a draft DAB hasn't been created yet.
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Animal Parade

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 6#Animal Parade

Suicide Six

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 31#Suicide Six

Vietnamese in China

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasdeleteVietnamesee language in China,retarget/refine the other two toOverseas Vietnamese#China. --Tavix(talk)20:51, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

These should point to the same target. I think thatOverseas Vietnamese, with the current hatnote toGin people, is the most appropriate target. The first could also potentially be deleted for being an unusual typo.signed,Rosguilltalk15:48, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Given thatOverseas Vietnamese has only a single sentence on China, which is essentially just a link toGin people, I would preferGin people as the target. If not that, then as a secondary preference,Overseas Vietnamese#China.Furius (talk)22:13, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My sense based on Google Scholar results is that we are undercovering Vietnamese people in China onOverseas Vietnamese, as most results for the term there are for modern immigrants, not Gin people.signed,Rosguilltalk22:39, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hell (forum)

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.plicit11:56, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The section that this redirects to does not mention the subject. Only two content pages contains a link to this redirect; neither defines the subject.ZFT (talk)22:37, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The security

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.plicit11:57, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The "the" is unnecessary.TraderCharlotte (talk)03:53, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Iron Golem

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 1#Iron Golem

The King Banishes the Letter P

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The result of the discussion wasdelete. Jay07:32, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This story onSesame Street Stories used to have an article from Se_tember 2006 to July 29 the next year, but it wasn't mentioned on the target _age at the times it was created or turned into a redirect _erWP:N. Currently, it isn't mentioned anywhere on Wiki_edia, and the number of _ageviews it's been getting since July 2015 have been declining over the years. We may need to banish this one just like King _eter the _ersnickety did with the letter _ in his story, but I'm o_en to being swayed otherwise if there's a more a__ro_riate course of action to be taken. Regards,SONIC67805:27, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Rosewood (color)

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The result of the discussion wasretarget toShades of red#Rosewood.(non-admin closure)Steel1943 (talk)21:18, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article, and not mentioned inShades of rose. The templateTemplate:Shades of pink seems to hint this subject belongs onShades of pink, but the subject of this redirect is not there either.Steel1943 (talk)04:43, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Bazaar (color)

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The result of the discussion wasdelete. Jay07:29, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article, and not mentioned inShades of rose. Apparently, though it kind of looks like apurple, it's a dull shade ofred.Steel1943 (talk)04:36, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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