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January 18

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 18, 2021.

Anarchism in Somalia

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 25#Anarchism in Somalia

Ãushkë

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 25#Ãushkë

Bimeasurable

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasdelete. --BDD (talk)20:30, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target.𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠)13:09, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that's a problem, but surely the right action to take is to define "bimeasurable" onMeasureable function, not to delete the redirects. It should take one sentence. —Kodiologist (t)13:32, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Kodiologist: Go on, then...Shhhnotsoloud (talk)14:41, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the redirect. Conceptually, 'bimeasurable function' has more similarity to 'measurable function' than to any otherexisting WP article.StrokeOfMidnight (talk)16:01, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't tell the searcher anything about the term though? By the way, the term is explained atSchröder–Bernstein theorem for measurable spaces#Comments.𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠)09:51, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,signed,Rosguilltalk21:09, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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It's Only TV

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion waskeep.(non-admin closure)CycloneYoristalk!21:09, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense name, not a translation of the French (which would be "Don't touch my TV set"). Name not used, except by Wikipedia mirror sites (as the article was inexplicably at the name for 3-4 years). A few page views per day, but that's because the redirect was linked in many pages, which I've updated to the proper nameJoseph2302 (talk)12:22, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,signed,Rosguilltalk21:08, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Buenaventura language

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 28#Buenaventura language

Lady Gaga's third studio album

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 25#Lady Gaga's third studio album

Redirects to SIE Worldwide Studios

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasdelete all, due to no mention at the target. The technicalWP:BLAR objection to deletingSky Blue (PlayStation 3) is noted but, in this particular case given the extreme age of the outdated page and the tiny amount of content on it, I am comfortable taking the shortcut. ~mazcatalk17:39, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target article.IceWelder []01:56, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,signed,Rosguilltalk17:46, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,signed,Rosguilltalk21:06, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Hnsvr

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasdelete.Thryduulf (talk)21:37, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target, no relevant search results on Google or Google Scholar, delete unless a justification can be provided.signed,Rosguilltalk19:30, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Shabee Ahmad

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasdelete.Thryduulf (talk)21:37, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided.signed,Rosguilltalk19:28, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Ben McMillan

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasdelete to encourage article creation.Thryduulf (talk)21:38, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notable for more than the current target,Gruntruck. He also played inSkin Yard and was a notable figure in Seattle'sgrunge scene in the early 1990s, I would presume he was notable enough to have his own article, which is incidentally why I think that it should honestly beWP:REDLINKed for now to encourage a real article to be created rather than redirect to only one side of his story. The inspiration from my request comes fromWugapodes' rationale on the deletion ofDrug bust just a couple weeks ago.dannymusiceditoroops18:26, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Bang Bang Romeo

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasnomination withdrawn - redirect converted to an article.Thryduulf (talk)20:00, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This currently redirects to the father of one of the band members, who is an actor. His article has no mention of the band or his daughter, so if people are redirected here, they will be confused (as proven with the comment on the talk page). –DarkGlow ()15:24, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Stub createdBang Bang Romeo. Not sure of the etiqutte for removing the discussion template.Bogger (talk)17:59, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Maroon 5's sixth studio album

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasno consensus. Editors are divided between delete !voters arguing that these are not helpful redirects and keep !voters arguing that they are nevertheless harmless.signed,Rosguilltalk20:27, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, whoever wants to know this band's sixth studio album would go straight to eitherMaroon 5 orMaroon 5 discography. Who would search this? I'd consider deleting this nonsense redirect. (talk)05:23, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For the same rationale, I would like to propose the following redirects for deletion:
  • Delete.@: You can clearly see thatRed Pill Blues was originally created atMaroon 5's sixth studio album by another editor beforeI moved it. I did not create this redirect (it was left behind as a result of a page move), so it's not as if this redirect was made by somebody as a potential search term for someone wanting to find Maroon 5's sixth album. When an album does not have a title yet, editors often create them at titles such as this. I believe I moved this article before I had the ability to not leave a redirect behind when I move pages.Ss11206:19, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep in addition to being a{{R from move}} it's correct, unambiguous, harmless and a plausible search term.@Se112: you should not be supressing redirects like this when moving pages.Thryduulf (talk)11:03, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • But who would search for "[an artist]'s [nth album]" when you can go directly to their discography page. Oftentimes this kind of titles are created as a response to a newly announced project, so it is of temporal effect that ceased to exist after it was released. If this kind of redirects is allowed, I am pretty sure we can have "Queen's 1st--2nd--3rd albums" or "Beatles' 1st-2nd-3rd albums" and so on, and it is unnecessary to have such redirects. (talk)11:55, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Thryduulf: Your ping didn't work, because I have pings turned off, and because my user name is Ss112, not "Se112". I would think an admin would make sure of these kinds of things. I haven't suppressed any such redirects, and I didn't even say I would. Iimplied that I would because I agree that I don't think it's a particularly likely search term. There's absolutely no need to besternly telling me I shouldn't be doing things I haven't even done.We have no such statistics on how many readers would know to type in or even be typing in "Maroon 5's sixth studio album" to find the topic Never mind, remembered Pageviews Analysis is a thing, and theonly time either of the pages got views was when the articles were located at these names. Since then there's been no visits aside from I assume HĐ's visits to nominate the pages for deletion. It's far more likely readers already know the title of the album, or would navigate toMaroon 5 orMaroon 5 discography, or heck, use Google to find out the title if they don't. I have rarely come across people in the general public, i.e. not Wikipedia users or people with a vested interest in music, who know how many albums a musical act has released, or would be counting that this is/was Maroon 5's sixth, so there's that against it as well.Ss11212:24, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • @A7V2: No reason to have created these redirects in the first place, either. They are the results of TOOSOON, and keeping them would just make it cumbersome to navigate through the artists' discography, especially when there are already lists of discography of these artists. Inconsistent format (capitalization, possession etc.) also doesn't help. (talk)02:39, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't follow... how does keeping them make it cumbersome to navigate through their discography? These redirects do nothing to stop a user looking at those list articles. I agree these redirects will no see an enormous amount of use, but what benefit comes from denying someone searching these terms the article they were unambiguously looking for? None of the reasons inWP:RFD#DELETE apply so I can't see why you would want to delete.A7V2 (talk)06:40, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Potentially meet criterion 8--obscure synonyms for article names. (talk)06:52, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,Seventyfiveyears (talk)13:27, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. If someone did not know the name of an album, how likely are they to know the album chronology or the year of release? Implausible. –DarkGlow ()15:26, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep It's been a while since I invoked my principle of "RfD zen": should not have been created, but should not be deleted. Walter Görlitz has accurately explained the former, but the cat is since out of the bag. As such, the redirects are harmless and unambiguous, so I see no benefit to deletion, and some potential harm. --BDD (talk)20:13, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Maroon 5's Third Studio album

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasno consensus.signed,Rosguilltalk16:48, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, whoever wants to know this band's third studio album would go straight to eitherMaroon 5 orMaroon 5 discography. Who would search this? I'd consider deleting this nonsense redirect. (talk)05:23, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • PerWP:COSTLY this kind of redirect may actually be a burden ("Unhelpful titles whose existence might encourage the few readers who stumble upon them to assume that there exist redirects of the same type for other targets as well"). Suppose this kind of redirect is encouraged, then the format "[artist] + [nth] + [studio album]" should exist for every and each of the album article within the scope ofWP:ALBUMS. Also this redirect can (arguably) satisfy criterion 8, that is obscure synonyms for article names. (talk)15:57, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,Seventyfiveyears (talk)13:19, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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List of vehicles in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasdelete.Hog FarmTalk16:16, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No list of vehicles exists in the target article.WP:GAMECRUFT #7 (list of vehicles)Dominicmgm (talk)12:55, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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½ VW engine

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasretarget toVolkswagen air-cooled engine#Half VW. Refined to appropriate section within the same article.(non-admin closure)CycloneYoristalk!05:35, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The action you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for that action. Not mentioned at target.122.61.73.44 (talk)05:25, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Joganosh

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.signed,Rosguilltalk16:48, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No content about this anywhere on enwiki that the search bar can turn up using the wildcard character *, doesn't seem useful.Hog FarmTalk05:02, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Green Nigger

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.signed,Rosguilltalk16:48, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article (or anywhere else it seems), doesn't appear useful.Hog FarmTalk04:59, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Zog lover

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.signed,Rosguilltalk16:48, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article, and I didn't find anything explaining this on Google, although admittedly I didn't look too hard, because I have a feeling I probably don't want to find out what this means. Created by a user blocked for vandalism. From look at their page creation history, a number of their redirects have been very abusive and dreadful.Hog FarmTalk04:56, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Human Genetic Branching

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 25#Human Genetic Branching

PlayStation(R)Vita

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion waskeep.(non-admin closure)CycloneYoristalk!05:31, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No one would type the (R) symbol. ViolatesMOS:TMRULES.Dominicmgm (talk)00:57, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Original redirect creator, personally I wouldn't mind if this redirect is deleted, however please note my original edit summary:

06:57, 6 March 2014‎ Benlisquare: This name ("PlayStation(R)Vita") is used within camera EXIF data when an image is taken using the device's camera. Making redirect from redlink, so that ENWiki and Commons images have somewhere to link to in the EXIF table.

This problem still applies: Any image taken with the PSVita camera and uploaded to Wikimedia Commons will continue to have the same value appear in the fileEXIF data, and this will result in a redlink. --benlisquareTCE01:36, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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