This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 9, 2021.
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- The result of the discussion wasdelete.✗plicit00:39, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not a synonym for the target as far as I'm aware, delete unless a justification can be provided.signed,Rosguilltalk13:26, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Rosguill this is almost a synonym for the continent, with a greater historical and cultural flavor and with smaller geographic one. The term is used a lot, both in formal and informal context. See for example:[1]Delasse (talk)13:56, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't think that link demonstrates that these terms are synonymous.signed,Rosguilltalk15:54, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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- The result of the discussion wasprocedural close in favor of an RM atTalk:The Hundred (cricket), which I'll start momentarily, copying !votes from here.(non-admin closure)--Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they)05:54, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There is only one reason anyone would spell out and search the phrase 'The Hundred' on Wikipedia and that's for the cricket competition. The other pages all involve the number and it feels that the redirect is unnecessary.— Precedingunsigned comment added byGrvlx100 (talk •contribs)12:51, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: Most of the links atThe 100 are valid for being spelt out- causal reader wouldn't know if they're spelt as 100 or Hundred in the name. I don't believe that most people will be looking for the "cricket" tournament. Also, this nomination needs to be fixed, as the current target isThe 100 notThe Hundred (cricket) (and this is the redirect I support keeping).Joseph2302 (talk)13:04, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Corrected nomination: The
target parameter is for thecurrent target, not the proposed one. For clarity, then, Grvlx100's proposed target here isThe Hundred (cricket). I haven't formed an opinion yet, but will say, if we're going to do that, it would probably make more sense to move that article to this title, than to redirect from a title without qualifier to one with one, in which case this might be better suited for arequested move.--Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they)01:10, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, I think that is what I am really suggesting.The Hundred (cricket) to be moved toThe Hundred with a full disambig page as suggested byDarorcilmir. Apologies, Wikipedia and the various admin processes are still very complicated even when you think you've cracked them.Grvlx100 (talk)16:35, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 18#Latin slang
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- The result of the discussion wasretarget toMTSS.✗plicit00:40, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure this can refer to anything at theMTSS dab page.~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)11:51, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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- The result of the discussion wasdelete.✗plicit11:40, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Uses the Cyrillic letterС as the first letter in "City", thus an implausible typo.dudhhrContribs08:10, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Vegetarian festival
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- The result of the discussion wasdelete.✗plicit11:40, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I retargeted this after a merge, but there's no mention in the article, no existing citation and I cannot find a reliable citation for this as an alternative name (only a few mirrors of Wikipedia).(Earlier added the wrong one and then removed it, sorry.)Laterthanyouthink (talk)06:00, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 16#Kalseru
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- The result of the discussion wasdisambiguate.(non-admin closure)CycloneYoristalk!00:54, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The concept of a captive audience seems to go way beyond this Supreme Court case, which is but one example of it.{{u|Sdkb}} talk02:55, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Wiktionary as a dictionary definition. Note there is a media book for the proper noun atCaptive AudienceAngusW🐶🐶F (bark •sniff)04:27, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- How about a disambiguation page for this case and the book mentioned above? And any other potentially relevant pages.Mlb96 (talk)07:43, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Formally !voting todisambiguate; a draft has already been created. I think an actual article on the legal concept would be even better, but a disambiguation page is better than a redirect for now.Mlb96 (talk)00:58, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Disambiguate. Draft provided: there's rather more than I first thought. As always, improvements are welcome. I think there may be a case for a broad-concept article here.Shhhnotsoloud (talk)09:19, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: Strongly oppose. Disambiguation is needed, There is already the statement that a direct article on the subject is needed. Thus, at least two things are lost with a redirect to a single court case.—¿philoserf? (talk)12:35, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Disambig per Shhhnotsoloud.Thryduulf (talk)16:32, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Nick Bates/oldversion
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- The result of the discussion washistory merged. The former article atNick Bates/oldversion existed from 2006–2008 and the current article was started in 2010. Without anyparallel history I was able to perform ahistory merge to the current target.Roy Glover/oldversion has the same timeline, but the article atRoy Glover evolved from a paring down ofList of past Emmerdale characters (2000-) until he was the only character left and the page was moved in 2011. So what I did was move all edit history from when it was a list back toList of past Emmerdale characters (2000-). After that, there is no longer any parallel history, soRoy Glover/oldversion could then be history merged. I do want to make one final note: moving the edit history to the talk namespace isnot the way to handle this because it reclassifies the history into an incorrect namespace (ie: the history is article content, not discussions). --Tavix(talk)22:01, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. These appear to be the leftover remanents of round robin page movesTassedethe performed in 2012. I'm unclear if any history merging is required, but if so that should happen before deletion.Thryduulf (talk)22:28, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - required forWP:ATTRIBUTION. These are leftover former articles which were content-merged with the present articles at some point prior to the 2012 move; the revisions need to remain accessible to satisfyWP:CWW. I don't think history merging would be possible here without ending up with a harmfully confusing page history, since they are histories of different pages. I also don't think a reason has been given for why these should be deleted.Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts)12:40, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as they're necessary for attribution, butmove to talk namespace (as they're not articles or useful for navigation).Elli (talk |contribs)19:06, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- History Cleanup as noted above, these cannot be deleted for attribution reasons, but the history here could be fixed by an admin who knows how to do it. If an admin can't be found to do so, Elli's suggestion to move to talkspace seems fine.User:力 (power~enwiki,π,ν)23:09, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Rename to "nick bates" and "roy glover" (in lowercase) without redirect, and add the required merge notices to the talk pages. Since all lowercase is a plausible redirect title, this addresses the issue with minimal effort.Oiyarbepsy (talk)08:27, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Move to talk per Elli, as is the usual way of dealing with things like this (as far as I'm aware?).Do not move to lower-case forms, as that's a sure-as-hell way of confusing anyone who looks at the page histories in the future. --Paul_012 (talk)18:32, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Hot dogs and hamburgers
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- The result of the discussion wasdelete.Deryck C.22:46, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No discussion of hot dogs or hamburgers at the target. Delete unless a justification can be provided.signed,Rosguilltalk17:59, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Not exactly. But the combination "hot dogs and hamburgers" is a common shorthand for the foods served at backyard cook outs. People will often have conversations such as:
- Person 1: We're cooking out this weekend, do you want to come over?
- Person 2: What are you having?
- Person 3: Hot dogs and hamburgers.
- I have no personal opinion on whether this is enough to justify the redirect. --Khajidha (talk)14:13, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete perWP:XY and because the two don't come together, any uncommon combination of food could potentially be made into a redirect otherwise.Rubbish computerPing me or leave a message on mytalk page06:42, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Retarget toAmerican cuisine#Ethnic influences per UserTwoSix. While there's nothing much to say about the two foods as a combination (Jay's examples) a wiki search for"hot dogs and hamburgers" reveals that this exact phrase, in this exact order, is often used as a sort of generic placeholder for popular American diner food, or maybe specificallyfast food. The section in the American cuisine article addresses this (though not well), and/or it seems we could easily create aList of hot dogs and hamburgers restaurants from the search results and target this there.Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts)12:35, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- There are 18 results for "Hot dogs and hamburgers", and some of them are prefixed or suffixed with "like", "such as", "etc.", "soft drinks", implying that "and" being a common joiner is used in sentences the way it is intended to be used, and the words it is joining may not have any special meaning whatsoever. However the other results may indicate that they do come in a package. If food joints consider them a package per Ivan, then can we get a citation, just to make this argument stronger? Jay(Talk)13:56, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. The suggested retarget doesn't isn't convincing.Winston (talk)07:25, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete perWP:XY. None of the suggested retargets seem right to me; these two foods are too general. —Mx. Granger (talk·contribs)08:11, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, not mentioned at the target, and not used in any article. "Hot dogs and hamburgers" doesn't sound particularly like a stereotype.JIP |Talk20:36, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Retarget toAmerican cuisine#Ethnic influences. I don't think this is an arbitrary pairing at all. It's quite common at a backyard American barbeque, for example, to have a choice of hot dogs or hamburgers. I admit an "ethnic influences" section isn't the first place I'd look for information on these two, but that's where we have it. --BDD (talk)19:16, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete asWP:XY. About as useful asBurger and fries although the latter as some media titles such asBurgers and Fries.AngusW🐶🐶F (bark •sniff)04:23, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Implausible.♟♙ (talk)21:20, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Copied from post-relist comment atWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 27.--Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they)08:13, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak delete perWP:XY. I would be okay with retargeting toAmerican cuisine#Ethnic influences, but this particular redirect seems no different thanHamburgers and hot dogs, hence I lean on the side of XY, but it is a plausible search term, and the proposed target does have useful content. However, as a search term, it's somewhat ambiguous what content is being sought, so perhaps better to defer to search results. In any case, the current target is not adequate.Mdewman6 (talk)18:59, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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