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December 16

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 16, 2019.

Wowsmith123456@posteo.net

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 24#Wowsmith123456@posteo.net

Gartak (martial art)

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasdelete. — JJMC89(T·C)01:55, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

While it appears that these terms are related (per search results such as[1]), it's not clear that they're synonyms and Gartak (or gar-tak) is not currently mentioned at the target. I would suggest deletion unless a justification can be provided.signed,Rosguilltalk21:34, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, they are not synonyms. Delete.JimRenge (talk)22:29, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Spooky Month

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasdelete. — JJMC89(T·C)01:56, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No mention in target page.PamD21:02, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

But unless you add a sourced statement to that effect to the article, the redirect doesn't help the reader.PamD05:47, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Then what is{{R to article without mention}} for? –MJLTalk07:03, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As its documentation says, "used to populate a "container" category that should remain empty".PamD07:53, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note alsoWP:R#ASTONISH:
"Wikipedia follows the "principle of least astonishment"; after following a redirect, the reader's first question is likely to be: "Hang on ... I wanted to read about this. Why has the link taken me to that?" Make it clear to the reader that they have arrived in the right place. Normally, we try to make sure that all "inbound redirects" other than misspellings or other obvious close variants of the article title are mentioned in the first couple of paragraphs of the article or section to which the redirect goes."PamD07:57, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Then it becomes a question of whether or not the redirect is intuitive. For me, it was intuitive because I knew what it meant.
However, if your goal was get to me to stop being lazy and find sources, I finally have done so. Here's the breakdown:
ContextUsageWP:RSLink
InvestmentsOctoberNo (blog)[2]
LocalHalloweenMaybe[3]
InvestmentsOctoberProbably[4]
LocalHalloweenYeah[5]
InvestmentsOctoberYeah[6]
CollegeHalloweenMaybe[7]
CollegeHalloweenMaybe[8]
CollegeHalloweenNah[9]
CollegeHalloweenMaybe[10]
As you can see, it is a common term for either October or Halloween at least according to these semi-reliable surface-level sources. That's good enough to me for a redirect, but it's not good enough for a mention. That puts us in option two of{{R without mention}}Tag the redirect with this template.MJLTalk16:26, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Thomas J.V

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasdelete. — JJMC89(T·C)01:57, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No evidence in the page that this abbreviated name was ever used. (And quirky punctuation too, with stop after the "J" but not the "V"?)PamD20:54, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Drug bust

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 24#Drug bust

List of Sonic the Hedgehog series vocal songs

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion waskeep.signed,Rosguilltalk09:12, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No such list in target article.Steel1943 (talk)22:04, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep, possiblystrong, perWP:ATT. It appears to have substantial revision history and the article's contents likely merged out into one or more related articles. I wouldn't be opposed to a renaming without leaving a redirect, though, to something moreconcise, or retargeting elsewhere. --Doug MehusT·C17:00, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Either way, as a redirect, it is not helpful with its current title due to there being no content as referenced by the title of the redirect. Readers attempting to find information about the subject as mentioned in the redirect will be disappointed due to not finding what they are looking for.Steel1943 (talk)02:51, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or restore. The second paragraph of the Music section lists vocal songs in the Sonic the Hedgehog series in prose format. I would also support restoration becuase I think the former list at that title was a good start, it just needs some better sourcing (and if restored, I'd move it back toList of Sonic the Hedgehog series songs). --Tavix(talk)19:44, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,BDD (talk)16:04, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Hyper Sonic (Sonic the Hedgehog)

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasretarget toSonic and the Secret Rings.(non-admin closure)Wug·a·po·des10:11, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear where this should target. The redirect currently targetsSonic the Hedgehog 3#Sonic 3 & Knuckles, but apparently a subject by the redirect's name is also present inSonic and the Secret Rings. I'm addition, it would nit be helpful targetingSonic the Hedgehog (character), considering the word "hyper" is not mentioned anywhere in that article.Steel1943 (talk)22:01, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,BDD (talk)16:04, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Califur

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion waswithdrawn by nominator. Content has been restored as suggested by another user.(non-admin closure)Jalen Folf(talk)00:56, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Convention that is most likely cancelled. Not mentioned anywhere else.Jalen Folf(talk)15:34, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Question why did you remove all mention of Califur from the target article rather than either adding a note that it may or may not still be active or moving it to the section for discontinued events? Either would seem to be justified based on a quick look for sources, and would not necessitate deleting the redirect or removing encyclopaedic information.Thryduulf (talk)22:40, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Sentinel High Schoool

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 24#Sentinel High Schoool

SpaceX Mars base

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasretarget toSpaceX Mars transportation infrastructure.(non-admin closure)feminist (talk)14:26, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not explained on the article. I suggest to retarget this toSpaceX Mars transportation infrastructure. --Soumyabrata (talksubpages)12:21, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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