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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 28, 2017.

Antoine River, Missouri, USA

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.Deryck C.09:36, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as misleading. These are redirects to a river, but the non-standard disambiguation may confuse someone into thinking this is a locality by the name. As an aside, the Missouri redirect is wrong, the river is not located in Missouri (seemap) --Tavix(talk)21:40, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Eubot's Cyrillic-based redirects 1

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The result of the discussion wasdelete. --Tavix(talk)23:27, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

These are all Eubot versions of originals which contained the same phrase (the article title, or a natural redirect to the article title) in both Cyrillic and Latin alphabets. As can be seen, Eubot Latinized the Cyrillic, creating reduplicated redirects (albeit with varying spellings). All of these seem very implausible; the Marsh na Drinu one has received semi-respectable hits (2 per month), but that's likely just becauseMarsh na Drinu is a plausible search term.Marsh Na Drinu exists and will take the search box hits if the reduplicated version is deleted.

Intuitively, the originals of this group feel fairly implausible in their own right, but some of them have received surprisingly many hits, which probably makes them keepers.Imago (Имаго), in particular, is at >400 hits in the new tool's DB;Марш на дрину/Marš na Drinu andВесна священная, Vesna svjaščennaja are both around 60 hits.Sideways713 (talk)19:57, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Eubot's Cyrillic-based redirects 2

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.Deryck C.09:36, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

These are all redirects fromfaux Cyrillic originals that Eubot mistook for real Cyrillic and transliterated accordingly. All of these are very implausible, and many are also cluttering since they resemble real search terms for unrelated topics.TETIaIS, a similar redirect with a similar history, was deletedin this discussion in January, and the same deletion arguments apply here.Bordt! may be the strongest candidate for non-deletion here; it's received 2-3 hits/month (not much, but something), and the exclamation mark means those hits likely came from readers who were actually looking for the movie. Most others should be easy deletes.

In this group, the originals were (and are) good, valid, intentionally mixed-script redirects from stylized titles and should not be nominated for deletion.Sideways713 (talk)19:31, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Touch keyboard

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 10#Touch keyboard

Eubot's Cyrillic-based redirects 3

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The result of the discussion wasdelete all except unbundle "Ruckii"WP:NPASR per discussion.@Sideways713 andThryduulf: Feel free to nominate "Ruckii" in a new request as you see fit.Deryck C.09:40, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

These are all redirects created by Eubot from an original mixed-script title that (whether through vandalism or good-faith mistakes) contained both Latin and Cyrillic characters. All of these are very implausible search terms, althoughCharlotte Brontio has somehow received a significant number of hits (76 in the new tool's DB), including a spike in July.Kion and Anniio Plank is the worst of the worst here, being based on an already deleted original created by a banned user.Tiranio, a similar redirect of similar origin, was deleted inthis discussion in December, and the same deletion arguments apply here.

Most of the originals still exist, and I considered nominating them for deletion as well; but they're fairly harmless, generally seem to interfere with searches less than the Eubot ones, and (strangely enough) many of them are former article titles.Sideways713 (talk)18:53, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Confederate States Air Force

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.Ivanvector (Talk/Edits)17:05, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No evidence that "states" was ever in the name. Unlikely search term, apparently stems from a hoax.Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?)19:58, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have a feeling thatBill Bryson states somewhere, inMade in America (book) I would guess, thatColonel Sanders started to become the archetypal Southern Colonel after being granted honorary membership of theConfederate States Air Force at the rank of Colonel. (That rank does not exist in the regular USAF or RAF, I am aware; the article states he was awarded the title ofKentucky colonel, which I believe is indeed the case.) Will check; if he does in fact say Confederate thenUser:TenPoundHammer's statement of "no evidence" is weakened, but not beyond repair; could have just been a mistake on Bryson's part.Si Trew (talk)20:24, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not inMade in America (book). Perhaps I am thinking ofNotes from a Big Country, but so far I am onUser:TenPoundHammer's side. Can't find that one on my bookshelf right now.Si Trew (talk)20:31, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
..because I have the American (original) version calledI'm a Stranger Here Myself. D'Oh. But I appear to have mislaid that or lent it to someone.Si Trew (talk)20:33, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Bear in mind also that names are changed sometimes in British editions. That would still be RS but they may have changed the names which is why I may have mixed up US and UK editions and have trouble finding it. It's good if RS, crap otherwise. Dont rely on my say-so on this one.Si Trew (talk)22:42, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep.User:Thryduulf tends to do a lot more checking than I do; I do basic checks as requried, but Thryduulf tends to look into these things. In case of any doubt ofWP:COI, which I'm expecting, no more has Thryduulf asked me to say this than Champion has asked me to list Eubot nominations. Facts are still facts, though a hundred times you tell them so.Si Trew (talk)13:14, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it was Bryson, I am unsure on my facts there. A journalist had a flight over with them, and it may have beenP. J. O'Rourke. I've been racking m brains on where I read this because he was took up on an airplane, actually it was aB-52 for the southern confederate airforce, and kinda admired that they had their own airplanes. It may have been theTexas Air Force but referred to it as theConfederate Air Force, I am trying to track that down.Si Trew (talk)22:39, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
GBook searching isn't turning up a plausible candidate: I get eight hits on the phrase, of which only one is genuine— another alt-hist thing.Mangoe (talk)14:44, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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BIGGEST SINGLE

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.Deryck C.09:42, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not finding a list of "biggest singles". That, and both words in the phrase are ambiguous, so it's unclear what this could refer to anyways.Steel1943 (talk)16:20, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Amleto Palormi

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.Deryck C.09:42, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

PerWP:RFD#DELETE #10. Redirect from actor's name to article (stub) on one movie he acted in, and that contains no information on the person. Better to have this name be a redlink that might eventually be turned into an article.Xover (talk)15:54, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Engalus

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.Deryck C.09:42, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target articleLordtobi ()14:13, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I combined these two entries.AngusWOOF (barksniff)21:13, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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GFACE

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Crytex

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The result of the discussion waskeep.(non-admin closure)Anarchyte(work |talk)03:02, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely typoLordtobi ()14:13, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Κατάδουπα

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.Deryck C.09:42, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'd nominate these forWP:G7 (I created these almost five years ago), but they're all receiving page views.Steel1943 (talk)06:09, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The World's biggest (by volume) and largest (by area) buildings

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.Deryck C.09:43, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm failing to see how this is a plausible search term as a redirect. All and all, I'd say that this redirect's existence isWP:COSTLY.Steel1943 (talk)04:44, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Annika Irmler

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.Deryck C.09:43, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The current target of this redirect seems erroneous. The subject of this redirect is a person who seems to have held or now holds the record for the world's largest or longest tongue.Steel1943 (talk)04:39, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as the person is not notable for anything else and would be low profile otherwise. The current record holder was not even updated until just now:[5] I don't see this being some competition where the name should be kept around like withBob Beamon.AngusWOOF (barksniff)21:29, 28 April 2017 (UTC) updated 01:43, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I seem to have created the page that is now a redirect. I have no memory of it. It seems stupid. I imagine I was just following some prompt of pages that need creation. --OGoncho (talk)04:59, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Radhakant Bajpai

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The result of the discussion wasdelete.Deryck C.09:43, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have absolutely no idea what is going with this over 10-year-old redirect. It's pointed towards its current target for about 10 years now. The history of the redirect hints that it targets the wrong target, and may be aWP:REDLINK candidate; the subject of the redirect seems to currently hold the Guinness Book of World Records' record for hairiest ears.Steel1943 (talk)04:32, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as with Anna, was a former world record holder, this time for longest ear hair, but is not notable for anything else. I don't see this being some notable competition where the name should be kept around like withBob Beamon.AngusWOOF (barksniff)21:35, 28 April 2017 (UTC) updated 01:45, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Biggest clock

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PPPPPP

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The result of the discussion wasdisambiguate.(non-admin closure)Anarchyte(work |talk)03:06, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect targets a game. However, as revealed by a google search, it is intended to target an album, which has no article on Wikipedia.RoCo(talk)14:24, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delta connection

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The result of the discussion wasretarget toDelta Connection with a recommendation to disambiguate when other things named "Delta Connection" or "Delta connection" get separate articles.Deryck C.10:20, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Not sure) There is an overly long hatnote at the target, and there is alsoDelta Connection andDelta Connection (Kenya), not sure if the latter is notable or not, but I'm not sure if we should create a disambiguation page or trim the hatnote. -CHAMPION(talk) (contributions) (logs)08:09, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This looks like the wrong target for that redirect (not incorrect, just not the best). We could also use more categorization forCategory:AC power and forCategory:three-phase AC power, as both are massive topics.
Given that the redirect target is unclear, I'd be happy to see this converted to a disambig.Andy Dingley (talk)08:53, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to the US airline, with a hatnote to the electrical term, and the Kenyan airline (if it survives AfD). Given that this is not the primary name of the electrical transform and that the Kenyan airline has been renamed, the primary target is strong enough thatWP:DIFFCAPS doesn't apply, in my opinion. – Train2104 (t • c)17:43, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Younger brothers

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The result of the discussion wasretarget toYounger Brothers.(non-admin closure)Anarchyte(work |talk)13:04, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if this should targetBirth order sinceYounger brotherYounger brother redirects there (perWP:DIFFCAPS), or if this redirect should targetYounger Brothers, a disambiguation page. Either way, I don't think that the current situation is not helpful since the redirect's title is ambiguous. (For the record, my "vote" is "retarget toBirth order" due to capitalization differences.)Steel1943 (talk)22:00, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That would be{{R from plural}}}. We don't usually distniguish the singular from the plural unless there is good reason to do so. It's not a question of caps, "Brother" and "Brothers" doesn't differ by caps.Little Women andLittle Woman both are articles. I don't understand the point here. 22:14, 10 April 2017 (UTC)— Precedingunsigned comment added bySimonTrew (talkcontribs)
@SimonTrew: I'm unclear what you mean by "I don't understand the point here." When you say that, are you referring to the current situation of the redirect or are you referring to this nomination?Steel1943 (talk)22:20, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand why you are unclear why I am unclear. I thought I put it plainly.WP:RCAPS says keep different spellings of the same title together. That would argue for retargeting, but you are after a DAB. Shall we draft a DAB under the R for now, for discussion?Si Trew (talk)22:56, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@SimonTrew: There's already a DAB atYounger Brothers.Steel1943 (talk)03:00, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Younger family

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Pastoralis praeminentiae

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The result of the discussion waskeepPastoralis praeminentiae;deletePastoralis praeminentiæ. The discussion was a bit muddy due to the late addition of the second redirect, but I feel there's clear enough consensus. --Tavix(talk)23:23, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot)Not sure. You should think that Eubot added an E, but in this case, the bot took one away (the second in "praeeem..") I guess from an R from "PraeAEmen" with the ligature. I can't find it on reasonable basic search because it doesn't exist.Si Trew (talk)21:42, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: The first word of the nominated redirect,Praeminentiae, doesn't exist, and neither doesPraeeminentiae. For this reason, it may be difficult to ascertain if the former is a plausible mispelling of the latter.Steel1943 (talk)21:45, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Medieval Latin used æ, so this ispræeminentiae orpreeminentiae, but notpraeminentiae which is therefore an unlikely search term!Shhhnotsoloud (talk)06:18, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Regardless of what the correct forms are in Latin, this seems like a likely misspelling. – Uanfala (talk)15:02, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The original non-Eubot redirect here wasPastoralis praeminentiæ, which still exists... and, unusually, seems actually less useful than the Eubot version. The Eubot redirect is plausible as a misspelling, while the original is not, since it contains both a Latin ligature and a misspelling very unlikely to be made by anyone who used that ligature. The stats back this up; the Eubot version has been getting 10-15 hits/month, which isn't bad at all for a misspelling, while the original's hits are almost below noise level. Accordingly, I have added the original redirect in this discussion; my !vote being todelete the original andkeep the Eubot version.Sideways713 (talk)12:22, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Mark (singer)

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