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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 20, 2015.

Eyetie

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion wasretarget toList of ethnic slurs#E. Since the term doesn't seem to be discussed in relation to italic type, this makes the most sense. I'm not entirely sure what Si was advocating here. --BDD (talk)18:20, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I use this a lot. I created it in Jan 2010. It was redirected to derogatory names#e or some such, when my original text of 2010 says it isnot derogatory when used as a typographic term. So I redirect it now to the term for which it is slang. It is not derog. and I have a good friend who once met an Italian. Collins, OED and Cambridge (offline, not the online dictionaries) list "eyetie" as being used as sl. for italic (font), Wiktionary doesn't, only lists the derog. sense.Si Trew (talk)23:52, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That talk is from six years ago with me starting it. In all that time I have not found an RS, that is slang for you. All I can say is it is definitelynot derog. when used as printers' slang. And I know astout mother frompenalty type (inMathematical Typography,Dr. Dobbs Journal of Computer Calisthenics and Orthodontia, vol. 4, Knuth D.Donald Knuth, 1970, discussingMETAFONT andTeX, pp. 87–91), but I am just going from memory, butI know it when I see it.
  • So, then, must beDelete perWP:RFD#D3, ""The redirect is offensive or abusive", by its own count. You can't have it both ways. It's offensive therefore should be deleted by the policy at thetop of this very page. No matter that it may direct people to lists of abusive words, or that I made an article to indicate its use in a way that is not offensive but couldn't source it: since it's offensive, delete it. Or change D3 to what you mean by "offensive". It may be different from what I mean by it.Si Trew (talk)01:47, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget toList of ethnic slurs#E ordisambiguate if suitable sources can be found for the typeface usage. Si Trew seems to have access to offline sources; I couldn't find this usage in sources available online. I think thatWP:RFD#D3 doesn't apply here - the ethnic slur is reliably sourceable and falls underWP:NOTCENSORED.Ivanvector (talk)16:02, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Furthernote because I thought of a better example: this would beWP:RFD#D3 (offensive) if the target wasItalians.Ivanvector (talk)16:13, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm sorry, really not happy about this. You don't know an X bar from a penalty copy but you tell me that it is a racist slur. It isnot a racist slur, it is slang for italic type. I am probably the only person here who actually does inky print and knows a t bar and what an em dash actually is, are you going to say em dash is a slur against all em dash emmigrents? You are wrong and I am right. It is not a racist slur. For if not, the Italian I have worked with closely for a month would probably have knocked my eyes out, were it not that I speak a bit of Italian. Now, who's the racist? I insist, it isnot a racist expression when used in that slang way.Si Trew (talk)04:24, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
My Collins dic lists it as "n. adj. br. Slang". Offensive, "Italian". I insist, without sources, it isnot derogatory in printer's slang, just means italic font. But you are probably right that for an encyclopaeida it should go that way. My annnoyance is that printer's slang never gets a long elbow. These terms are not used derog, just as brief slang, stick in the eyeties on that copy. I dunno why I should have to teach people the difference between atypeface and afont, but it seems I have to. I don't get paid for it either.Si Trew (talk)04:34, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Heat-beam

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The result of the discussion wasretarget toHeat-Ray (disambiguation). --BDD (talk)18:27, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it does make some sense because it is a common superpower, but there may be a better target.Mr. Guye (talk)23:45, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Theresienbad

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Relisted, seeWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 March 26#Theresienbad

One share, one vote

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The result of the discussion wasretarget tocommon stock because it describes the concept, but it's worth nothing the exact phrase isn't used there either.I, JethroBTdrop me a line18:17, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Phrase not mentioned in article.I am not a business expert.Mr. Guye (talk)01:27, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Proxy fight doesn't really cover it.
I am not sure what "other parts of the world" means: I guess those in theList of countries that are not the United States? But the section specifically refers to the UK.Si Trew (talk)22:53, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Relisting comment: It indeed looks like the redirection ofVoting stockVoting stock has stuck. How might that affect the outcome here?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,BDD (talk)21:20, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Simple. We createList of countries that are not the United States. I tried this one before, by the simple expedient of takingList of countries and removing "United States", for the unspeakable benefit of mankind. (to quoteAmbrose Bierce, a Californian). Unfortunately, my suggestions on the matter have always been refused, or in WP parlance, "Speedily Deleted". It's easily done, or, asOur American Cousin would say, "easy done". BlameNoah Webster for that one, not me.Si Trew (talk)22:36, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That was somewhat of a joke as I am sure you imagine, most of mine have a serious point behind them. There is rather a tendency here to claim anyone who has set foot on American soil as American, so one gets "English-born American engineer" even though he spent all but his dying days in England. There is something of a US bias here and I am here to counter it and restore theBritish Empire as the fearless defender against hanging, drawing, quartering, racist abuse, and putting taps the wrong way round and driving on the wrong side of the road, etc.
As usual, a joke with a serious point: with the casual use of these words they become very US centric, and actually did get my back up. I know Wikipedia is hosted in virginia and I get my tobacco from black slaves picking it off the cotton trees in virginia, I am smart like that. Why tobacco grows on cotton trees I have never discovered but they have gin made from cotton (cotton gin) and that makes it grow and then I guess it grows from that.The world is not the United States. All that really needs doing is to reword the lede mildly so it doesn't seem so.Si Trew (talk)22:46, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
F'rexample, we have it at another,Stocks and sharesStocks and sharesStock, notSharesSharesShare (finance). Presumably that is argued over andWP:PRIMARYTOPIC and all that,WP:ENGVAR, and that is fine. (Though I wonder what the difference is between aStock (finance)Stock and aShare (finance)). The thing is, if itseems that the rest of the world is not the United States, i.e. who gives a shit, you're not the United States, fuck off, that is not the impression I should like Wikipedia to be giving out: especially if it is done accidentally rather than intentionally (intentional ones are much easier to deal with).Si Trew (talk)22:49, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Clue: A stock and a share are the same thing.Si Trew (talk)23:00, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Charles Gordon (actor)

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The result of the discussion wasdelete. --BDD (talk)15:19, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are various actors named Charles Gordon listed inIMDb,[1] but even the best of them (Gordon II) isn't worthy of an article, so it's pretty pointless to redirect to a list with no actors on it.Clarityfiend (talk)14:10, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Angola Basin

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The result of the discussion wasdeleted byRHaworth. --BDD (talk)21:09, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Non useful redirect to articlespace.JimCarter09:27, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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List of American films of 2016

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The result of the discussion wasProcedural close. Converted to article.(non-admin closure) bySi Trew (talk)02:01, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect is jumping the gun. It's too early to be able to list any 2016 films.Oiyarbepsy (talk)05:07, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake. The info is addedas content below the RfD tag at the redirect, not at the target. I suppose theoretically the RfD tag should be removed andlet it stand as an article, then, but that would be rather unsatisfactory for everyone, I imagine.Si Trew (talk)23:13, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Diskis

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The result of the discussion wasdelete. --BDD (talk)14:58, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Self-referential redirect created byUser:Diskis. It's tagged as an{{R from member}}, so apparentlyUser:Diskis is/was a dishwasher? Either way, I couldn't find any information relating the two.Tavix | Talk 02:25, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Disky (pl.Diskies),Discy (pl.Discies),Diskey (pl.Diskeys),DiscKey (pl.DiscKeys),Disk key (pl.Disk keys),Discy (pl. [Disc Keys]]) and all other variants of "disc key (pl.disk keys)" that I tried for, are all red. (I had a vague feeling there was once a populardongle called something like this? Or at least it might meanproduct key (or, as was common in the 1980s, deliberate reproduction ofbad sectors on mass-recorded disks as a form ofcopy protection - home copying could not reproduce the bad sectors. I should write a section inbad sector about this.)
But since those are all red, that indicates none of those are encylopaedic. So delete.Si Trew (talk)19:28, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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