January 18

Project Martial arts

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion wasdelete. --BDD (talk)00:10, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Project Martial arts →Wikipedia:WikiProject Martial arts (links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

WP:CNR to WikiProject with nonstandard naming, created by banned useruser:Tyciol in 2009. Usually WikiProjectWP:Shortcuts start with 'WikiProject'. This is too likely to be confused with a real project.John Vandenberg^(chat)13:54, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• • To be absolutely clear this was created in February 2009, the creator wasn't banned until October 2009, so this was not in violation of a block or ban. The creator's banning was unrelated to either redirects or martial arts, so it is not relevant to this discussion.Thryduulf (talk)18:30, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • The creator's ArbCom ban was indeed not for misconduct relating to martial arts.AGK[•]23:32, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • I would say the ban was more broad than any specific topic. Are you able to determine whether there was no misconduct relating to martial arts? It is mostly possible to deduce that, but it is a lot of work. But thanks for clarifying the timeline of this redirect and the ban. In 2009 alone they created ~1000 redirects that have since been deleted. Admins can see thathere. In some cases they have been re-created by others. Many other redirects have been redirected to a better target (e.g.Please!). Also deleted CNR by this user areWikidoption,Wikimentor,Wiki-tan,Cross-namespace redirect andCross-namespace redirects (deleted atWikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2010_June_16#Cross-namespace_redirects).John Vandenberg^(chat)01:06, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        • How is any of that relevant to this redirect? Whether this is an appropriate redirect or not is entirely to do with this redirect. We don't do guilt by association on Wikipedia -Wikipedia:Comment on the content, not the contributor.Thryduulf (talk)08:49, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
          • I was askinguser:AGK about his description of the ban, and giving him some data points that might help.John Vandenberg^(chat)09:58, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Malformed; contaminates mainspace search. —Scott•talk20:25, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom;WP:XNR to pipework. ; Not about any martial arts projects from the real world. --70.50.148.122 (talk)04:48, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Sony Entertainment Television

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion waskeep. --BDD (talk)00:07, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Sony Entertainment Television →Sony Pictures Television(links to redirect •history •stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

I don't really found a reason for this redirect. There is so many versions of SET so I think this is really to need to discussion.jcnJohn Chen (Talk-Contib.)RA03:30, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There are around250 links that use this redirect.GB fan03:54, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep This is not only a good redirect, but a great one. No reason to delete presented.Ego White Tray (talk)04:10, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, I really don't understand the proposer's rationale for deletion.older ≠wiser14:19, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - covered at the target. NoWP:RFD#DELETE reason to delete.The Whispering Wind (talk)21:22, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• OK, I explain. Sony Entertainment Television is a general entertainment channel, and is available in several countries. Sony Pictures Television is a production company. --jcnJohn Chen (Talk-Contib.)RA03:30, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• It's mentioned in the target three times, albeit briefly: in the lead, the "Background" section and the "Television channels" section. SET is owned/operated or jointly operated (the article is a bit vague which) by SPT, so there is a clear relationship. Although it could be expanded into an article in its own right, until that happens, it seems the most appropriate target. (That the redirect target links to the redirect is an indication it might one day become a separate article.)Keep.Si Trew (talk)07:12, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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