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Wikipedia:Pokémon test

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For the Pokémon WikiProject on Wikipedia, seeWikipedia:WikiProject Pokémon.
This page is currently inactive and is retained forhistorical reference.
Its purpose is to provide historical context for notability standards of the time and their development, which have changed and been refined since 2007. As a result,this historical reference should not be used as an argument in deletion or merge discussions.
The historical "If we can have an article about every minor Pokémon, we can have an article about X" argument has since been widely recognized as "What about articlex?"—a type of argument to avoid.

ThePokémon test is an argument that was made atWikipedia:Articles for deletion, before specific fictionalPokémon species were merged intolists of Pokémon. It asserted that an article on a subject should be kept because it was at least asnotable as an average Pokémon.

Until mid-2007, Wikipedia had standalone articles for each of the 493 Pokémon species which then existed. Adiscussion that year found consensus that not all Pokémon are notable, and most were eventually redirected to list articles such asList of generation I Pokémon. Since 2007, the franchise continued and more Pokémon were released, with well over a thousand as ofgeneration IX, and more importantly, sources providingWP:SIGCOV have emerged through the years for provide notability for manyPokémon species-based articles.

History

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The Pokémon test is believed to have stemmed from the attempt to curtail the number of individual Pokémon articles by listing them for deletion citingWP:FICT. However, althoughconsensus formed in theWikipedia:Poképrosal agreed thatWP:FICT did actually apply to Pokémon stubs, the formation ofWikiProject Pokémon (under various names), and the pledge that all stubs were to be expanded, saw the issue die down somewhat. More recently, the WikiProject has worked ona merge of Pokémon species articles, rendering the test moot. Since then, the Pokémon test is sometimes cited in the inverse: articles on minor fictional characters are now routinely merged into one article, citing the Pokémon merger and WP:POKEMON as the most prominent and influential precedent.

Examples of typical use

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  • if we can have articles for every minor character in Star Wars, Star Trek, and each of those peskyPokemon, we can have an article about Professor Hopper.
  • More keep-worthy than any individualPokemon.
  • ...if we'll keep made uppokemon characters, write 600+ words on a character mention only in passing in a harry potter novel, I see no reason this cant be kept.
  • Keep. I hate to resort to thePokémon test, but... if freaking Golbat has its own article, freaking 593 deserves its own article. Not a ton of stuff is more notable than a number, right?
  • Merge. The individual stops on the510 Spadina and the512 St. Clair streetcar routes should be merged with their respective lines. If thePokémon test can be applied to non-human characters in the respective animé, then it can also be applied to transit stops as well. Using that test, the only pure LRT stop/station in Toronto that would merit an article isQueens Quay station, as well as individual stops onLine 3 Scarborough.

(Emphasis added.)

Karen Importance Test

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A related, and even more outdated, test was theKaren Importance Test (KIT), involving the citing of the specific Pokémon characterKaren’s article, for the following reasons:

  1. She seemed to be among the least significant of all the Pokémon characters with their own articles.
  2. Her article had technically survived at least one AFD (however, it was speedily closed because the article was already slated to be merged, so it was not kept on its merits).
  3. The article was a stub at the time the test was conceived (The earliest surviving copy of the independent article can be foundhere).

This was no longer a valid argument (if it ever was) by the time the Pokémon Test arose, because Karen's article had been merged with other related characters.

Criticism

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There were three main criticisms of the Pokémon test that often arose in response to its use:

  1. The first and most common was that, at the time, the Pokémon themselves weren't notable enough to have their own articles and that the inclusion of so many Pokémon articles was a mistake (seeWikipedia:Inclusion is not an indicator of notability).
  2. Notability of Pokémon species may not be equivalent to the notability of other subjects; the argument implies that a parallel bar should be set for every type of article.
  3. Finally, an argument that an article is at least as notable as an arbitrary Pokémon is still a subjective argument on the notability of that article, rather than reliance on theprimary notability criterion (multiple, independent, reliable sources). Who can be certain thatRhydon really isn't more notable thanUncle Steve's Garage Band, after all?

See also

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External links

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