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Welcome Thatguy1987!

There's a slight delay sinceDrew Fortier is currently a redirect, but I've filed a request to delete the redirect to free up that space to publish your draft.

That said, since I can't publish directly I can't addWP:Categories to it, soafter it publishes, please add them.

Donot add massive categories like "Music" or "United States", categories should be as narrow as possible, so like "American heavy metal guitarists" and whatnot. If you're not sure, take a look at a related artist who appears to have a decent page, and just copy-paste what they use and then modify them to be applicable to your guy.MatthewVanitas (talk)02:12, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

MatthewVanitas, Thank you so much for your help on this page. I will certainly add correct and narrow categories to the page. This is officially my first published page as an editor. Thank you again.Thatguy1987 (talk)17:51, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed atDraft:Brynn Arens. Thanks!Bkissin (talk)20:58, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission toArticles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by CASSIOPEIA was:

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Film needs to be in production or has been released to meet the notability guidelines

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Your recent article submission toArticles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by AngusWOOF was:

This submission's references do not show that the subjectqualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not showsignificant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject inpublished,reliable,secondary sources that areindependent of the subject (see theguidelines on the notability of films). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (seetechnical help and learn aboutmistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Needs sourcing on the principal photography shooting beginning. It was stated in the article but not cited.

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This submission's references do not show that the subjectqualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not showsignificant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject inpublished,reliable,secondary sources that areindependent of the subject (see theguidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (seetechnical help and learn aboutmistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Please indicate how this band meetsWP:MUSICBIO

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing.Liz^Read!Talk!04:51, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I always like a quick answer, even if it is declined, so thank you. I have another draft I’d like to get your opinion on.Draft:The Playground (2017 film) has been pushed through hoops over the last year or so. I think that it’s good to go, and while I have asked another editor for their opinion and they agree, no one that has previously reviewed it thinks it would surviveWikipedia:Articles for deletion. What are your thoughts here?Filmforme (talk)02:56, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, I see you have added additional references to Hacksaw and it's looking really good to me, ping me if you resubmit and I'll have another look. As for The Playground, it is very close to being there. I personally think it might be ready for resubmission but of course if you could find a few more good references, that wouldn't hurt either. It seems Horror has quite a bit of an edge over Drama as far as press due to how large of a niche market Horror is with so many large websites dedicated to the genre and even the independent aspect of the horror genre. Independent Dramas are a bit more tricky to find coverage on but it looks as though The Playground is just about good to go though. I hope all is well!Thatguy1987 (talk)13:44, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your input @Thatguy1987. I have resubmittedDraft:Hacksaw (film) for you to take a look. As forDraft:The Playground (2017 film), I am unable to resubmit it so I may have to manually move it to article space if you think it is good enough? Reviewers have discouraged me from doing so, but thanks to your opinion and another user I may end up doing that even if I can't find additional sources.Filmforme (talk)19:31, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Filmforme I'm happy to help! I took another look atDraft:The Playground (2017 film) and it could definitely go either way as far as acceptance. Also never let reviewers discourage you, you are doing good work.Thatguy1987 (talk)18:04, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Rik L Rik is referenced on many other pages, it is essential that he be given his own page. I wrote everything that is known about him and many authorities, music critics, etc have said so. I have shown them all the material I wrote and they are not agreeing that he should not have his own Wiki Entry. Makes no sense, you have countless entries about people far lesser known in the music business and here is someone that is considered of the very first Los Angels punk rock bands, a historical consideration. At the very least, you should let the entry I wrote be public until more changes can be made to your satisfaction. I have seen hundreds of other entries say they need to be updated, why can't we do that here?Salcanzonieri (talk)22:40, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Salcanzonieri The rule of thumb on Wikipedia is in order for someone to qualify for a Wikipedia article, they need significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.

In your article, the L.A. Times article and the L.A. Weekly article which both read as obituaries, lack the strength of any standard acceptable reliable secondary source independent of the subject.

Discogs, IMDb, and any kind of online store, shop, or database are not considered usable sources to establish notability as they are user generated.

The Forced Exposure link does not showcase any information in regards to your article's subject.

The Joel Guaston source is a blog which are not considered a reliable source on Wikipedia.

The Posh Boy Records website is not considered a usable source as it is not independent of the subject.

The Trouser Press source appears to be a review for your subject's band and that would be more helpful in an article about F-Word instead of your subject.

Apart from that, your article reads more like a press release instead of an encyclopedia entry which is set in a neutral factual tone that cites sources properly.

In closing, this article is going to need a lot of work before being considered.

I would suggest readingWikipedia:Notability (music) andWikipedia:Notability (people) before trying again.

Also feel free to ask for further help atWikipedia:Teahouse.Thatguy1987 (talk)16:44, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if this is the way to communicate with you about your declining my submission on the musician Richard Mortonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Richard_Morton_(musician) so apologies if I'm doing it wrong but I asked you for feedback on the comment explaining why it was declined and you haven't responded.

I said: So this comedian who won a Time Out comedy award and is referenced in numerous books, including by the hugely renowned comedian Jo Brand, and you are saying that means he's not significant enough?Almost all the other winners of the Time Out comedy award (which was a significant award) have a listing.His music partner Reg Meuross who has no citations, has a listing.He had years of routines at the Edinburgh Festival, marked out by reviewers. His videos posted by fans are on YouTube.He is one of the founders of one of the most famous comedy clubs during the 'Alternative Comedy' boom of the 80s in the UK, has had huge runs on British quiz shows on both TV and radio, has two albums which were positively reviewed and continues to tour to this day.What more does he have to do to prove he is 'significant' enough for Wikipedia?I'd genuinely appreciate your advice because I've been trying to get this page live for nearly a year.

I realise I have not cited the book by comedian Jo Brand - Can't stand up for sitting down - where she references her tour with Richard, his stint in the TV show Our Friends in the North and one of his famous songs My Daddy Was A Sperm Bank.If I add these citations will this make him significant?

She says: I toured for a while with Richard Morton, who was always great to be with. Richard is such a lovable guy so helpful, friendly and sweet natured. He almost makes me feel guilty for existing. He’s a Geordie, but an atypical one given that he is small and slim and unmacho. He was unerringly cheerful when we toured and believe you me unerringly cheerful isn’t the default position of most comedians. Richard did stand up and comedy songs and can be spotted in the background in a club in that wonderful series, Our Friends in the North. He also happens to have the same name as an opera singer and was booked to do a gig at the Sherman Theatre near Cardiff once. However the audience were expecting the opera singer and when Richard kicked off with My daddy was a sperm bank, he came on my account, almost the entire audience got up and left.

He has a section amounting to more than 20 pages in the book Ha Bloody Ha about the comedians on the Alternative Comedy scene of the 80s. I would posit this is more than a 'passing reference'.

This is my first submission to Wikipedia so if you can explain how I get this decision reconsidered, I'd be very grateful.Thanks.MsContent (talk)11:04, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Thatguy1987https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Thatguy1987

I invite you to respond to my query as above.

Thank you.MsContent (talk)12:11, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@MsContent The rule of thumb on Wikipedia is in order for someone to qualify for a Wikipedia article, they need significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.

Each statement in the article needs said reliable source to back it up.

For instance this statement: "He is best known as a 1992 winner of theTime Out Comedy Award, one half of musical act The Panic Brothers and for The Jack Dee Show (ITV) and The Comedy Store TV series on Channel 5." This does not cite a reliable source therefore cannot be verified.

There are quite a few statements like this throughout the article.

As for your sources:

The Ealing Times article is an interview and those are not considered proper coverage to establish notability because it isn't independent of the subject.

Discogs is not a reliable source because it is user generated.

The BBC Radio 4 links, again these are interviews or information coming straight from your subject and is not coverage independent of the subject.

One of your sources is a show flyer which establishes that a band he was in performed. This does not establish notability for your subject apart from the fact that he may have been there.

The Time Out album review didn't link to anything in relation to your subject.

The Music Week album review didn't link to anything in relation to your subject.

I could keep going but I am going to stop here.

You have not shown enough significant coverage from reliable sources independent of the subject which is why your article was not accepted.

Please readWikipedia: Notability (people) and for further assistance please consultWikipedia: Teahouse.Thatguy1987 (talk)17:05, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dear @Thatguy1987, would you eventually have another look onDraft:Elmar Nass, if it seems appropriate now? I sourced the article, declined before. Thank you!Saintambroise (talk)20:41, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dear @Thatguy1987, would you please take another look atDraft:He Went That Way? It has been improved exponentially with sources.— Precedingunsigned comment added by72.203.224.67 (talk)04:47, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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