Hello!

Wish you a Happy New Year full of health and success in all your endeavors. This message is to share with you a series of sources that confirm some more awards won by the 1996 Televisa telenovela "Cañaveral de pasiones" and some of its actors.

Here is a photo of Christian Bach (along with associate producer Gerardo Zurita) posing with the 1997 Eres Award for Best Telenovela:https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=6079205818756980&set=a.5985970294747200

This one is a photo of Daniela Castro, winner for Best Actress:https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=6078972195447009&set=a.5985970294747200

And, finally, this is Juan Soler, posing with his award for Best Actor:https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=6078774102133485&set=a.5985970294747200

Naturally, these pictures have been uploaded by fans, so I guess it wouldn't be wise to cite the Facebook account, yet I think a photo confirms the fact that these awards have been given to these artists in particular. Actually, I'd appreciate it if you could give me a piece of advice on whether I should add it in the awards list, since what I'm trying to avoid is to get into trouble anew for the same reason, ha-ha!

I've also found other sources, where it is mentioned that Francisco Gattorno and Azela Robinson have won the 1997 Latin ACE Awards for Best Actor and Best Supporting Actress respectively for their performances (in Gattorno's case, it wouldn't be a surprise, since he has been recognized by the Association of Latin Entertainment Critics more than once -he has been honored for his performances in "La dueña", "Laberintos de pasión", "Amores verdaderos" and "Muchacha italiana viene a casarse", apart from some of his interventions in theater).

Anyway, I have found this award being mentioned here (https://www.dcubanos.com/somos/francisco-gattorno/) and here (https://www.cineinformacionymas.com/post/lifetime-amores-que-enga%C3%B1an-amor-compartido#:~:text=*%20FRANCISCO%20GATTORNO&text=En%201997%20recibi%C3%B3%20el%20premio,en%20%E2%80%9CLaberintos%20de%20Pasi%C3%B3n%E2%80%9D.) as part of the actor's biography. Which onee is more reliable, according to you?

Also, when it comes to Azela Robnison's award, it is mentioned in the Trivia Section of her IMDB biography (which I understand is not the most reliable source) and it is also brought out here (https://www.gabrielblanco.cc/nuevaweb/pdf/azela_robison.pdf) and in this article byEl informador (https://www.informador.mx/Entretenimiento/Azela-Robinson-villana-reconocida-por-el-publico-20100825-0109.html) which I have already cited in "Laberintos de pasión".

Definitely, I can tell it sounds logical that in this kind of shows some information may sometimes be incomplete or even deliberately altered, since it is a task of fans to find and sort out all this information, which many times can get confusing (personally, I'm sure Angélica Aragón must have won something too, but since I haven´t found anything that confirms it, I can´t assume it's actually true).

So, what am I supposed to do? What would you say if I added all this and then you remove whatever doesn't convince you, so we don't start any kind of conflict?

Thanks for your attention and all your guidance. It's been really valuable to me when it comes to editing Wikipedia, believe me. That's why I actually like to share my findings with you; it's because I'm aware that you will know better what must be done in most cases.

Have a nice and fruitful day.

Greetings,Nick Bizer (talk)12:42, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The images from Facebook cannot be used as Facebook is listed as an unreliable source. See here:WP:RSPFACEBOOK for details.Telenovelafan215 (talk)21:12, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

HiTelenovelafan215 I see you say you can translate pages from English to Spanish. I was wondering if you could create a page on the Spanish language Wikipedia for the articleKyle Kulinski please? It has other major language pages like English, German and French but not Spanish, so this would be very helpful. I look forward to hearing from you.Helper201 (talk)23:46, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Working on it.https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Telenovelafan215/Kyle_KulinskiTelenovelafan215 (talk)20:30, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Helper201 Done:es:Kyle Kulinski.Telenovelafan215 (talk)02:14, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Telenovelafan215, brilliant! Thank you so much!Helper201 (talk)07:05, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! I was wondering if I can help you add-in the celebrities who enter the house. Let me know. Thanks!Danny5784 (talk)00:27, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes as long as you add them when they are revealed. Nospeculation.Telenovelafan215 (talk)00:31, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing! I just addedJulia Gama as the 3rd person from season 2.Danny5784 (talk)00:41, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You need to make sure you are not adding repetitive content as you have done twice now.[1][2]Telenovelafan215 (talk)00:46, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alright I will make sure.Danny5784 (talk)00:48, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The fileFile:A Dona do Pedaço soundtrack vol 1.jpg has beenproposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-free album cover being used in a decorative manner inA Dona do Pedaço#Soundtrack. Non-free album cover art is generally allowed to be used for primary identification purposes in stand-alone articles about albums, but its use in other articles is generally only allowed when the cover art itself is the subject of sourced critical commentary as explained inWP:NFC#cite_note-3 and thecontext for non-free use required byWP:NFCC#8 is evident. There is no such commentary for this particular album cover anywhere in the article, and the use of soundtrack album cover art in articles about films or TV programs is generally not allowed for this reason as explained inWP:FILMSCORE andMOS:TVPRODUCTION.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may bedeleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the{{proposed deletion/dated files}} notice, but please explain why in youredit summary or onthe file's talk page.

Please consider addressing the issues raised. Removing{{proposed deletion/dated files}} will stop theproposed deletion process, but otherdeletion processes exist. In particular, thespeedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, andfiles for discussion allows discussion to reachconsensus for deletion. --Marchjuly (talk)05:21, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above also applies toFile:A Dona do Pedaço soundtrack vol 2.jpg, and correspondingly toFile:Papás por conveniencia soundtrack.jpg,File:El gallo de oro tv series soundtrack.jpg.File:Vencer la culpa soundtrack.jpg, andFile:Juego de mentiras soundtrack.jpg. --Marchjuly (talk)05:22, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Marchjuly I will go ahead and remove them so they can be deleted. I have read the concern and did not know cover arts couldn't be used on non stand-alone articles.Telenovelafan215 (talk)05:42, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I was posting the below while you were posting your above reply and didn't notice it. Since you've removed the files from the articles where they were being used, they will be tagged for speedy deletion as "orphaned non-free use" by a bot or a human file remover unless someone re-adds them back or to some other article. You're receive a notification of these for each of the files, which probably will be a lot of notifications if you do the same for the all the files I listed below. You can avoid this (if you want) by tagging the files for speedy deletion perWP:G7 instead. An administrator should delete the files fairly quickly (perhaps even sometime today or tomorrow) and a bot will should remove their syntax from the articles where they're being used. --Marchjuly (talk)06:06, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Marchjuly In case you wanted to know these articles about TV shows:Segundo Sol andA Força do Querer, are also using soundtrack album covers on their soundtrack/music section. I did not upload these but just letting you know about them.Telenovelafan215 (talk)06:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for pointing them out. They've been prodded for deletion and the uploader notified. Files (non-free and free) aren't formally vetted and assessed before they're uploaded and added to a Wikipedia, i.e there's no approval process. So, non-free policy related problems often often only getnoticed later on (sometimes years later on), and it's usually by chance or when someone else points them out. In your case, I just came across the first file while looking at various other non-free soundtrack album covers. Once I found more than one of these files uploaded by you having the same issue, I checked your file uploads to see if there were more. So, if you come across any more of these files (even uploaded by others), you can point them out if you want, do nothing if you want or prod them for deletion yourself if you want. You could also remove them from their respective articles, but just make sure to leave edit summaries explaining why. If, someone re-adds the file without addressing the issue, you can then start a discussion about the file atWP:FFD if you want or bring to someone else's attention. -- 06:33, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi Telenovelafan215. Over the years you seem to have uploaded quite a number of non-free soundtrack covers and then added them to articles about TV shows. I'm sure you did this with the best of intentions, but such non-free, however, doesn't comply withWikipedia's non-free content use policy.

I've already prodded six of these files for deletion and the reasons why I've done this are explained in the notification template added above, but you've upload many more of this type of file and they all have the same problem.File:Te la dedico soundtrack vol 2.jpg,File:Rensga Hits! soundtrack cover.jpg,File:Te la dedico soundtrack.jpg,File:Café con aroma soundtrack.jpg,File:Tempo de Amar vol 2 soundtrack.jpg,File:Tempo de Amar vol 1 soundtrack.jpg,File:Deus Salve o Rei soundtrack.jpg,File:Orgulho e Paixão soundtrack.jpg,File:O Tempo Não Para soundtrack.jpg,File:O Sétimo Guardião vol 2 soundtrack.jpg,File:O Sétimo Guardião vol 1 soundtrack.jpg,File:Órfãos da Terra soundtrack.jpg,File:Bom Sucesso Vol 1 soundtrack.jpg,File:Bom Sucesso Vol 2 soundtrack.jpg,File:Éramos Seis Vol 2 soundtrack.jpg,File:Éramos Seis Vol 1 soundtrack.jpg,File:Amor de Mãe Vol 2 soundtrack.jpg,File:Amor de Mãe Vol 1 soundtrack.jpg andFile:Salve-se Quem Puder Vol 1 soundtrack.jpg all have the same problem as the six I've already prodded for deletion.

If you think any of the soundtrack albums corresponding to these files meets the criteria ofWP:NALBUMS and want to create a stand-alone article about it, then the relevant non-free album cover would be OK to use in the main infobox of that article; there's, however, really no way to justify their use in individual sections or articles about TV series/shows.

If you disagree with my assessment, you canWP:DEPROD the six files I've already prodded for deletion, and I will start a discussion about them atWP:FFD; I think, though, you're going to have a near impossible task of establishing a consensus in favor of their use and that the files should be kept. If you want to ask for other opinions on this, you can do so atWP:MCQ orWT:NFCC. If, on the other hand, you acknowledge the non-free use problem I've pointed out and agree that the files should be deleted, you can tag them all for speedy deletion yourself perWP:G7 or simply remove them from the articles where they're being used so that they end up being deleted perWP:F5. If you have any questions about this, you can ask them at WP:MCQ or WT:NFCC. --Marchjuly (talk)06:00, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Marchjuly Like I said in my previous reply I will go ahead and remove them from their respective articles so they can be deleted.Telenovelafan215 (talk)06:02, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that a message you recently left to Fgute may have been unduly harsh. Please remembernot to bite the newcomers. If you see others making acommon mistake, consider politely pointing out what they did wrong and showing them how to correct it. It may take some time, but it helps us retain new editors. Thank you.The Bushranger_{One ping only}23:52, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and Happy Easter!

I noticed you recently reverted some of my edits (which were, actually, re-edits). Undoubtably, it's absolutely right that you patrol the pages to prevent possible vandalisms. In my case, I alaways double-check the sources I find and it happens that sometimes some of them contrast each other, so there are occassions when I get confused.

For example, the TLN Awards were originally sourced, but when I checked the kind of awards they were, I realized they had no real importance or impact in the actor's careers (at least, as I see it), since it was more of a dynamic for viewers to vote for their favorite shows or actors (the nominees were decided by the journalist who hosted the "show") and they were nothing more than a symbolic reference to tha viewers' favorites... That's why I decided to remove that information.

On the other part, when it comes to Arturo Peniche and Leticia Calderón's "Micrófono de Oro", I came across two different sources (the one that was originally there stated it was an award to recognize their "Artistic Excellence", so I thought it was a kind of recognition for their respective careers, in general -since the time when they started to the moment of that particular ceremony). But, a couple of days ago, I came across an article, published by Televisa, where it is stated clearly that "Arturo Peniche fue galardonado con El Micrófono de Oro en Dolores, Hidalgo por su destacada participación como protagonista en la telenovela "En nombre del amor"[3], which means it should be included as one of the awards won by that telenovela in particular and that my original assumption was wrong. Consequently, the same applies to Leticia Calderón[4]. That's why I decided to restore them, to be honest...

On the other hand, in what refers to the "Galardones a los grandes de TVyNovelas", I came across a Youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiI_ge_HDdk&ab_channel=RebeccaAnneJonesFuentes -this one, in quite a poor quality), where Rebecca Jones confirms it was a recognition for her career, as well as her performance in "Para volver a amar" -which means, the same goes for Camacho and Magda Guzmán or the actors from "Soy tu dueña", who were also awarded, according to the source from Televisa). I guess it was thought of as an extra recognition to some of the nominees in the official ceremony in addition to the official awards they were supposed to win on March 7th, 2011. Unfortunately, in the Best Actress category, they opted for the then young Angelique Boyer, leaving the beautiful Rebecca Jones without the statuette, no mater of the fact the actress really diserved it, at least in my opnion...

Thanks for your attention and I wish you have a good time with family and loved ones!

Blessings,Nick Bizer (talk)19:33, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I see you took issue with the TeleOnce programming article. As I stated in the Talk Page discussion that I started on the WLII page, The article that exist is incredible long and outdated. In order to "update it" it would need to be done from scratch (which is what I did). Additionally, whenever updates are made to the previous article it also is met with push backs and reversals. On the WLII talk page I said that I would create the page, link it and asked for you guys to read it, compare it and give it a chance to that we could have a proper updated programming page and in turn delete all of the information that makes the WLII page way too long. However the reaction was a quick reversal and a stamp of quick deletion on the page. I really don't think that helps anything here as no matter what anyone does to try and update this it is met with resistance. I implore you to please read the talk page and the new article carefully and to be more patient when undoing and labeling things in the future. Thanks.PR2021 (talk)01:58, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there!

This message is to inform you about some recent edits I have made on the article concerning the 2012 Televisa telenovela "Abismo de pasión". I just replaced the plot summary with one of my own invention, but trying to keep it coherent and cohesioned while not surpassing the word limit.

Furthermore, I have classified the cast as displayed in the first official opening theme by Televisa, which can be found right here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ5bXk-xZFk&ab_channel=JuanFelipeMart%C3%ADnez). As you can see, originally Ludwika Paleta and César Évora were placed among the Main cast, despite the fact that their appearances lasted only 5 episodes within the context of the series. On the other hand, Livia Brito's name is presented after the title, which means she is not among the Main cast (I guess it's some kind of Televisa policy, but I just limited myself in following their own classification, where the "actuacioness multiestelares" and the "actuaciones espciales were included after the tile's display).

When it comes to the characters' names, I attached myself to the way they were recorded in the show's official site, which can be consulted following the link below:https://web.archive.org/web/20121231142321/http://televisa.esmas.com/entretenimiento/telenovelas/abismo-de-pasion/elenco In my opinion, it's a way of not exceeding onself adding a number of surnames or second names that the characters might have used in some part of a telenovela consisting of more that 160 episodes, so that the page would look more tidy and elegant.

I would also like to really thank you for having showed me (maybe without yourself knowing) the right way to use the web archive where old sites are preserved, since it is a very useful tool in order to find information about these topics (like official synopsis, characters' profiles and awards received by different productions). So, I want to thank you once more for this!

When it comes to the summary I added myself, I hope youl ike it... I tried to put an emphasis on the relationship between the friends and the misunderstanding that marks their lives, avoiding to mention major plot twists or important details, apart from the obvious fact of the "blood ties" between the two male leads).

Thanks for your attention and wish you all the best! Feel free to add or remove details from the plot summary, or correct the expression in case you detect any kind of incosistencies!Nick Bizer (talk)14:38, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Continuing on fromWP:ANI#IP 193.52.208.98 yesterday... looks like more reverting is needed, sadly...[5].Magitroopa (talk)13:54, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

At this point we should probably request ageneral sanction on Masked Singer pages and make a list of pages that need to be temporary or indefinitely protected. Similar toWikipedia:General sanctions/Beauty pageants.Telenovelafan215 (talk)16:16, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If IMDb isn’t reliable, why is it mentioned in "External Links"?VMLeblon (talk)04:01, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:IMDB-EL explains why IMDb can be used as an external link but not as a reliable source.Telenovelafan215 (talk)04:04, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't answer my question: If IMDb isn’t reliable, why is it mentioned in "External Links"?VMLeblon (talk)10:49, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]