To dream, perchance to sleep. Rotary Engine is taking a shortwikibreak and will be back on Wikipedia soon.

Note: This is simply an aide memoire, so I don't forget to come back to these. If there is an issue with this section, please let me know; I will be happy to modify or remove as required.

• Harmonica Done - East Asia section wants cleaning up; already flagged.
• Hungarian_gypsy_scale,Hungarian_minor_scale - musically these are the same (1,2,b3,#4,5,b6,7); would they be better collapsed to one article?(Note: "Gypsy" is considered a derogatory term for people who refer to themselves as Roma.)
• Adolf_Fredrik's_music_school Done - copy editing; more references(?) -see new section update below -HejAndersneld!, "74" suggested that I might be able to provide some help with this. If I can suggest anything, I will put details on my Talk page; and "ping" you. - Ryk72
• Bob Huff Done - copy editing; fact checking; references.
• International Trombone Association,Eastern Trombone Workshop - References!!
• Sapience Done - see new section update below
• Craig Wing Done - update Japanese rugby union section; include Kobelco Steelers details.
• Tanerau Latimer Done - add Japanese rugby union section; include Toshiba Brave Lupus details; find sources.
• Kumamon Done - find source for currently unsupported section; or resolve if no source available; Not done - add info on Boston lecture, Cannes film festival et al.
• Kei Nishikori - add section on appearances onTunnels (owarai)'s "Sports King is Me!" TV programme.
• Shred guitar - general prose clean up.
• Humane Society International Australia - find sources for this article.
• Bone China - find sources for use of synthetic bone ash; draft text for inclusion in article.
• Kabaddi - copy editing; clean up prose.
• Conscription - clean up/standardise table entries.
• Prepositional pronoun - draft section on Gaelic languages.
• USA Boxing - confirm & update weight divisions (male & female); update national champions lists.
• Haruka Ayase - add & source content; incl. name competition, if source-able.
• The Heroic Legend of Arslan - copy edit; add sources.
• Bonnie Ross Done - create article - with thanks toStrongjam &DHeyward.
• Zico Done - clean up external links.
• Aeoline - create
• Tiergarten - clean up; createTiergartentunnel

--Ryk72^'c.s.n.s.'07:25, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• OnWP:DUCK->WP:SOCK blocks.
• OnWP:NPOV & "voicing" assertions.

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@AirshipJungleman29 It is something I'd been meaning to get around to, but never quite found the time, so I appreciate the reminder. Thank you. A couple of questions though: Is the message above a template? If so, which? And, was there a reason you came here? Something I could help with?Rotary Engine^talk11:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is a template—Template:Uw-archive. I think I just saw a message from you somewhere and couldn't remember if I'd seen you before.~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk)12:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I just wanted to direct you to mycomment here as to why representing it as just a Short Sword is potentially incorrect. There are too many potential references across a multitude of sources for what "sayamaki" might have meant at the time that the source wrote that Yasuke was given a sayamaki. It might be more productive since it is ambiguous to leave sayamaki untranslated, and to just include a notation indicating that sayamaki had multiple meanings. There is also significant academic discussion occurringhere about Yasuke. Particularly,here they give [然に彼黒坊被成御扶持、名をㇵ号弥助と、さや巻之のし付並私宅等迄被仰付、依時御道具なともたさせられ候] from the Sonkeikaku Version, which they explain asSo he is made a vassal of a military family, given a stipend and a sword (さや巻之のし付) and a house and carries Nobunaga's (military) equipment. So while we don't have Gyuichi giving us a specific title, the suggestion is that he is being treated as a member of the samurai class, such as it was in the late 16th century. This tracks with Ietada Nikki (the other Japanese language source that describes him) and with the Jesuit sources, at least in translation. Likewise, Dr. Jeffrey J. Hall provides a translationhere of the tweet of Proferssor Hirayama stating that Yasuke was given a stipend, a sword, and a residence. If experts are translating "さや巻之のし付" as "sword," I don't think Wikipedia editors should be translating it as "short sword".172.90.69.231 (talk)20:59, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Noting that I have seen this and am in the process of reviewing the sources linked above and at the other editor's Talk page; prior to a reply. I thank you for the link to the academic discussion; it was an interesting read.

I am also pondering a thought that if, in cases of ambiguity, we ought prefer generality over specificity, that it might best be a preference applied generally - not only in the specific instance.Rotary Engine^talk03:07, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I bit the bullet and made an account. Chiefly the reason I advocated for generality in this instance because it's an editor of Wikipedia providing a translation based on their own research and understanding of the word. However, there are (as I demonstrated) a bunch of sources that use sayamaki in ways which differ from the translation. When there are experts who are translating it as "sword", and a Japanese historian/subject matter expert on Twitter saying "Did you know that Sayamaki sometimes referred to Sayamaki no Tachi", I don't necessairly believe that it's in the best interest of the article to just accept the editor's argument that he specifically has only seen it refer to a specific mounting for a shortsword and discount the subject matter experts, least of all when doing research on "sayamaki" we can find it being translated in numerous ways, including in the way that the historian suggested. As Erikr's well meaning research foundthese are often described as "ceremonial", and the use of a sayamaki mounting on a longer sword does not seem common; in almost all cases I've seen or read about so far, the sayamaki mounting is reserved for tantō., however, I've also provided sources that do show that Sayamaki were used for combat. In particularNodachi when they wear underdress ready for armors, andSayamaki when they are on battlefield (emphasis added) in馬埸辰猪全集 Volume 3 byBaba Tatsui. There is also additionaly theJapanese-English Dictionary by James Curtis Hepburn which lists Sayamaki asA sword, the scabbard of which is wound around with white or colored silk thread.Brocade River Poems23:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks,Yvan Part (talk)11:22, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yasuke has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on thediscussion page. Thank you. It can be found under the headingRfC on Infobox ImageRelm (talk)10:02, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@RelmC Thank you. Appreciate the notification. Am as yet undecided as to whether I will participate. Am trying to find gentler phrasing than "Using an image of a jowly, double-chinned, bald, middle-aged Portuguese man as the Inbox image would be a disservice to the article subject."Rotary Engine^talk01:12, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just seen|this discussion (I've not edited for a couple of months) – thanks for catching and correcting my error! I try quite hard to get these reference edits right, but it can be challenging when there are very similar sources in languages one doesn't read, and I clearly slipped up on this one. Best,Wham2001 (talk)20:01, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]