[1]Editor Soman on 30 July 2006 asked for help, and, such as it is, here it is.
Account 1รายนามกษัตริย์และเจ้าเมืองเชียงใหม่ (ยกเว้นช่วงที่พม่าปกครอง) List of names of nobles and kings of Chiang Mai (elevated during Burmese rule)ดังนี้ Thus: (พระญา = minor king equivalent to a European duke or reigning prince; may be rendered King or Lord, but Prince or Duke not customarily used.)
๑. พระญามังราย (พ.ศ.๑๘๐๔-๑๘๕๔)1. Lord Mangrai [Meatly] (B.E. 1804-1854)
๒. พระญาไชยสงคราม(พ.ศ.๑๘๕๔-๑๘๖๘)2. Lord Chaisongkhram [Victorious in War] (B.E. 1854-1868)
๓. พระญาแสนภู (พ.ศ.๑๘๖๘-๑๘๗๗) 3. Lord Saanphuu [100,000 Hills] (B.E. 1868-1877)
๔. พระญาคำฟู (พ.ศ.๑๘๗๗-๑๘๗๙) 4. Lord Khamfuu [Hiss] (B.E. 1877-1879)
๕. พระญาผายู (พ.ศ.๑๘๗๙-๑๘๙๘)5. Lord Phayuu [Crag] (B.E. 1877-1894)
๖. พระญากือนา (พ.ศ.๑๘๙๘-๑๙๒๘)6. Lord Geu-nah (B.E. 1898-1924)
๗. พระญาแสนเมืองมา (พ.ศ.๑๙๒๘-๑๙๔๔) 7. Lord Saanmeungmah [100,000 Lands Come](B.E. 1924-1944)
๘. พระญาสามฝั่งแกน (พ.ศ.๑๙๔๕-๑๙๘๔)8. Lord Sahmfangkaan [three-bank Axis] (B.E. 1945-1988)
๙. พระญาติโลกราช (พ.ศ.๑๙๘๔-๒๐๓๐) 9. Lord Tilokarat [Protest Great World] (B.E. 1988-2030)
๑๐. พระญายอดเชียงราย (พ.ศ.๒๐๓๐-๒๐๓๘) 10. Lord Yowd Chiang Rai [Pinnacle of Chiang Rai](B.E. 2030-2038)
๑๑. พระญาเมืองแก้ว (พ.ศ.๒๐๓๘-๒๐๖๘)11. Lord Meuang Kaaw [Crystal Land] (B.E. 2038-2069)
๑๒. พระญาเมืองเกษเกล้า 12. Lord Meuang Gasetgelah [Crowned Land]ครั้งที่ ๑ (พ.ศ.๒๐๖๘-๒๐๘๑) 1st Time (B.E. 2068-2081)ครั้งที่ ๒ (พ.ศ.๒๐๘๖-๒๐๘๘)2nd Time (B.E. 2086-2088)
๑๓. ท้าวซายคำ (พ.ศ.๒๐๘๑-๒๐๘๖) 13. [ท้าว = ] King Chaiyakham [Victorious Word](B.E. 2081-2086)๑๔. พระนางจิรประภา (พ.ศ.๒๐๘๘-๒๐๘๙) 14. Her Royal Highness Jiraprapha (Lasting Light)(B.E. 2088-2089)๑๕. พระไชยเชษฐา (พ.ศ.๒๐๘๙-๒๐๙๐)15. Pra Chaisedtha [Name or title = Elder Victor] (B.E. 2089-2090)๑๖. ท้าวแม่กุ (พระเมกุฎิ) (พ.ศ.๒๐๙๔-๒๑๐๗)16. Queen-Mother Gu (Lady Megut) (B.E. 2094-2107) ๑๗. พระนางวิสุทธเทวี (พ.ศ.๒๑๐๗-๒๑๒๑) 17. Queen Wisutthewee (B.E. 2107-2121)
เจ้าเมืองเชียงใหม่สมัยราชวงศ์กาวิละ (เจ้าเจ็ดตน)Kahwila Dynasty Kings of Chiang Mai (Seven in all)๑. พระเจ้ากาวิละ (พ.ศ.๒๓๒๕-๒๓๕๖) 1. King Kahwila (B.E. 2325-2356) ๒. พระยาธรรมลังกา(เจ้าเชียงใหม่ช้างเผือก) (พ.ศ.๒๓๕๙-๒๓๖๕) (พระยา = พระญา = minor king equivalent to a duke; Lord)2. Lord Thammalongkah (Lord Chiang Mai White Elephant) (B.E. 2359-2365)๓. พระยาคำฝั้น(เจ้าหลวงเศรษฐี) (พ.ศ.๒๓๖๖-๒๓๖๘)3. Lord Khamfan (Wealthy lord, or tycoon) (B.E. 2366-2369)๔. พระยาพุทธวงศ์ (เจ้าหลวงแผ่นดินเย็น) (พ.ศ.๒๓๖๙-๒๓๘๙)4. Lord Putthawong (Lord of the Peaceful Land) (B.E. 2368-2389)๕. พระเจ้ามโหตรประเทศ (พ.ศ.๒๓๙๐-๒๓๙๗) 5. King Mahottaraprathet (B.E. 2390-2397)๖. พระเจ้ากาวิโรรสสุริยวงศ์ (เจ้าชีวิตอ้าว) (พ.ศ.๒๓๙๙-๒๔๑๓) 6. King Kawirorotsuriyawong (Lord of Life!) (B.E. 2399-2413)๗. พระเจ้าอินทรวิชยานนท์ (พ.ศ.๒๔๑๖-๒๔๓๙)7. King Intharawichayanon (B.E. 2416-2439)๘. พระเจ้าอินทวโรรสสุริยวงศ์ (พ.ศ.๒๔๔๔-๒๔๕๒)8. King Inthawarorotsuriyawong (B.E. 2444-2452)๙. เจ้าแก้วนวรัฐ (พ.ศ.๒๔๕๔-๒๔๘๒)9. King Kaonawarat (B.E. 2454-2492)Transferred from User PagePawyilee12:11, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Big Daddy,Like what you've added to theThai Rocket Festival article. -Thaimoss22:07, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
[[Image:BoonBungFai-Rockets-084.JPG|right|thumb|Rocket on ascent.]]
Yasothon Rocket Festival Museum entrancehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Bangfai_M.JPG
Murals to left & right of entrance depicting
Phaya Tan Park Rocket Shoothttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Bangfai1.JPG
King Toad leading war with Phaya Tanhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Bangfai4.JPG
==The Myth==[ [ Image:Bangfai1.JPG|right|thumb ] ][ [ Image:Bangfai4.JPG|left|thumb ] ]When the Lord Buddha was in his Bodhisatta incarnation as King of the [[Toad]]s Phaya Kang Kok ({{lang-th|พญาคางคก}}),etc. etc.
Just put any caption you want on the images to the right of the word "thumb", like this (need to put a'|' in there between "thumb" and the caption:
[ [ Image:Bangfai1.JPG|right|thumb|caption here ] ][ [ Image:Bangfai4.JPG|left|thumb|other caption here ] ]
Thaimoss02:35, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Big Daddy, I think theRocket Festival article has been very very much improved by the mythology-related informations and photos you've included recently. Great work, and Thanks. -Thaimoss00:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Rocket_Festival_Cameraman_Salutes.jpg
Image:Rocket_Festival_Cameraman_Shoots.jpg
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In addition to the myth of Phaya Tan and King Toad, Yasothon also has the legend of Pha-Dang (Red Cliff), and Nang Ai (Mistress or Mrs. NOT Miss Vapor-trail), but I have only contrasting oral accounts of his-vs.-her story. Nevertheless, as Nang Ai is more-or-less Queen of the festival andPha-Dang her escort, I've also uploaded these:Image:Rocket_Festival_Nang_Ai.jpg
Image:Rocket Festival Pha-Dang.jpg
I posted a summary already toNong Han Lake, but don't know what to do with the translations, which I have in Word.doc format.Pawyilee14:35, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's a love story of two guys and a girl, Phadaeng on one side, Phangkhi on the other, and Nang Ai Kham in the middle. I began the quest in an attempt to translate her name, only to find I'm married to her!Thai has an expression for soul-mates who have been true lovers down through several re-births. Lao has Nang Ai Kham and Phangki. They have been mated down through many incarnations but, no, they are not lovers. He is a hot-head who wants what he wants when he wants it, with no consideration for others, especially his wife. His name cannot be translated, but, because Lao stories depend a lot on puns involving subtle shifts in tone and vowel length, implies one who habitually destroys everything he touches; even though he is a skilled worker when he wants to be. Her name cannot be translated, either, but implies a genuine Lao miss. She attends to her husband's everyday needs, but she will not yield one inch in an argument. When he climbs a tree and eats his fill of fruit without even so much as tossing her one, she is fed up and prays that in their next lives, he be stuck on a branch (not to be reborn, or have any children) and she be mated to someone else.He is reborn as the son of the King of the Nagas, mythical serpents which represent both rivers and snakes. (Rivers in spate drive snakes above ground.) [The wash north of our house has flooded twice recently, and bothbanded kraits and blackspitting cobras sought refuge with us. My Nang Ai doesn't want to yield an inch to either flood or snake, so has hired men to dam them out. The legend bodes ill for the project.]As for Phadaeng, he is from "somewhere else". His name means Red Cliff and he's from a country with an overhanging cliff, but the legend does not specify just where. All he knows is that she is the most beautiful Lao miss in the world, and all he has to do to win her hand is win a rocket festival tournament; but he can't get it up. The only ones who can get it up are her uncles, so the contest is called off. Complications with Phangkhi ensue that would never fit in a 20-word summary, especially as they involve double andtriple entendre of a very racy sort, especially after Nang Ai has a hunter kill him on the branch of a tree where he stopped to eat more fruit. Nagas of every sort arise in revenge and Phadaeng tries to flee to his own country with her, but she is lost and he pines away. He becomes a ghost leading an army of ghosts bent on revenge against the nagas, until almost everywhere is flooded, andLake Nong Han is the result. Nobody wins and the morale of the tale is that bygones cannot be bygones, for ill-considered deeds done in the remote past will have ill-conceived outcomes down through the future. Wish me luck.Pawyilee09:50, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nang Ai and Phangkhi have beenfated by theirKarma (TH:กรรม kam) to have been reborn throughout many past existences as acouple ordained (TH: คู่สร้างKhusang); Lao-Isan says such a couple has asai naen nam kiaw (TH:สายแนนนำเกี่ยว), atie that binds tight.Stories about the couple, however, say they have not exactly been lovers; in many a past existence, she has been a dutiful wife, but would not yield an inch in an argument to anyone (TH:ไม่ยอมใคร mai yom krai); he only wanted to satisfy himself (TH: เอาแต่ใจคัวเอง ow tae jai tua eng).
Sorry, but your removal fo stuff from this page seems unfair to me. The edit summary didn't explain the reasons behind the removal. Pleasecontact me A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here:link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here:link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me.Happy Editing bySnowolf(talk)CONCOI on19:29, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
yea whoever keeps deleting my constructive comments needs to stop straight up— Precedingunsigned comment added byCPswag (talk •contribs)04:24, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Please provide sources for the statements you added to Mount Ruapehu and Mount Ngauruhoe. Thanks.RedWolf15:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In Peter Jackson's film adaptation of The Lord of the Rings, Mount Doom was represented by Mount Ngauruhoe and Mount Ruapehu, both active volcanoes in New Zealand. In long shots the mountain is either a large model or a CGI effect, or a combination. It was not permitted to film the summit of Ngauruhoe because it is sacred to Māori of the region. However, some scenes on the slopes of Mount Doom were filmed on the slopes of another nearby volcano, Mount Ruapehu.
Big Daddy, I've been watching your updates as you've been doing them. Seems like your access to the internet is a bit limited, so I just let you plug at for a while before I do anything, or say anything. Didn't want you to think I'd quit reading! I really like where you've taken it. I'm trying to get ahold of a Thai Language book on the festival, for the same reason "to make it more scholarly". I'll let you know what I come up with. But, I definitely love what you've been doing with the article. If you compare the article history right about the time you started working on it in earnest, to the page as it exists today, you'll really see a huge improvement. Keep up the great work. -Thaimoss13:16, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Can you help in that regard?
Thanks for your addition toBlackface about Thai cultural tradition and your comments on my talk page. Good to see another person of color around the place. Diversity's a good thing. ;)
I'm originally from Louisiana. And, FYI, there the black/rural tradition is to call the elder patriarch (grandfather) of the family "Big Daddy" (likewise, "Big Momma" is reserved for grandmothers).
I don't know much about the Isan people -- just what little I skimmed on the Internet after reading your note. I didn't really see any good photos of the people, but I do consider some Southeast Asian peoples black and members of theAfrican diaspora. Your wife very wellcould be a soul sista. ;)
The festival photos on your page are a gas. They remind me of some ribald tribal traditions utilizing oversized penis fetishes on theContinent.
Peace to you. Regards.deeceevoice02:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm originally from Georgia: same tradition, except that Big Momma resented it as she was sensitive about her size! Tho' I thought she was the size Big Momma's are supposed to be.:) IMO,Abram could as well be translated "Big Daddy" as "Exalted Father"!
As for penis fetishes, a great manyLinga, great and small, are used over here to scare off the Witch of Death, who is supposed to be frightened by them. Let two or three villagers die in the same week, and red-tipped Linga are sure to sprout off fences, often as knot tied with the two ends of a string encompassing the area protected. Some men and boys wear a Linga tied to their waists for the same reason; curiously, women and girls never do.
Isan is a name imposed on NE Thailand as part ofThaification. Isan folk south of E-W flowingMun River are mostly ofKhmer or Cambodian origin, though folks here will tell you that as if it were something shameful. Most of those along the N-SChi River and along theMekong are mostly Laotian, butLaos says: "The term "Laotian" does not necessarily refer to the ethnic Lao language, ethnic Lao people, language or customs, but is a political term that also includes the non-ethnic Lao groups within Laos and identifies them as "Laotian" because of their political citizenship. In a similar vein the word "Lao" can also describe the people, cuisine, language and culture of the people of Northeast ThailandIsan, Northern ThailandChiangmai andChiangrai who are ethnic Lao." The area is also rich withThai_Chinese, and any one rich is assumed to be one! An odd thing here is that I know some Thai-Chinese and Lao couples, and their children look European!
But speaking ofshameful, I'm currently trying to run down the many meanings of a cluster of Thai/Lao words all transcribed as 'Ai', but differing in vowel length and intonation; as I'm practically tone-deaf, I can't hear the difference! I hear one such 'Ai' used to designate a first-born son, though they say the usage is Chinese! I hear it with a different intonation to mean "You contemptible so-and-so!" One meansvapor and anothershy,embarrassed,ashamed -- and is the nickname of a niece who shocked everyone when she showed up in her too-young and-unmarried-mother's belly! Her parents are married now but the nickname sticks, and can be changed to Queen of the Rocket Festival just by shortening the vowel!
Where it really gets interesting is that Lao folk refer to the elder race from which they descended, or sometimes to themselves collectively, as 'Ai Lao'. But, when spoken by a Central Thai, the same identical phrase carries the same emotional content as a certain English-language word that may (or may not) relate to theNiger_River#Etymology.
There are for sure descendants of the modern African Diaspora in Southeast Asia, brought here by the English, French, Dutch and Portuguese. One of the interesting foot-notes to WWII is that a Japanese fluent inDinka tried to get some British Imperial soldiers in Burma to change sides (they understood him clearly, but didn't change sides.) But they are likely to have donated DNA to local populations, as did members of the African Diaspora who came over for Vietnam.
There are interesting traces in the flora and fauna of an active sea-borne trade between Mainland SEA and East Africa about 3,000 years ago. There is no scientific proof that the Vietnamese andThai Ridgeback are related to theRhodesian Ridgeback, but they sure do look alike.So, too, the San of South Africa and the Negrito of Southeast Asia, which includes a population in Northeastern Australia, as well as in southern Thailand. I am a fan of the 10-year-oldhttp://andaman.org site and their Out-of-Africa Story of the human race, where it is proposed that the San and Negrito are direct descendants of the progenitors of all modern human families, a group that numbered fewer than 5,000 (and likely considerably less) that were the sole homo saps to survive a massive volcanic explosion 73,000 years ago, with only one surviving Y-DNA line, and only 3 of mtDNA (shades of Noah, his sons, and their wives!)
My wife's father's father, and his father as well, were fromGujarat, who came here with 11 other Indian merchants about the time of WWII. The same year 3,000 died in NYC in 9/11, 300,000 died in the2001 Gujarat earthquake, and she is sure some of them were her kin. Their family name was Go-me-na (equally stressed syllables -- which my over-active imagination immediately connected toMakkhali Gosala). Gram'pa was Phadaeng to Gran'ma Ai Lao, but when he took a Thai surname, it was Phasook, Cliff of Happiness, yet another twist on an old story. One Thai expression for falling in love is falling in a hole, but I say I fell off a Cliff!Pawyilee16:02, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion began onTalk:Blackface underTalk:Blackface#split_article.3F as "However split". It pertains to so much ofBlackface#Face_paint_and_ethnic_impersonation as reads:
"In Thailand, actors darken their faces to portray the The Negrito of Thailand in a popular play by King Chulalongkorn (1868–1910), Ngo Pa (Thai: เงอะป่า, which has been turned into a musical and a movie.
The discussion continues underTalk:Blackface#.22Blackface_in_Thailand.22"Ngo Pa" is the usual romanization of the Thai, but to an English speaker sounds more like "Ngaw Bah!" "Ngaw", pronounced as if choking on it, meansRambutan, from a supposed resemblance to wooly hair. The most common word used for jungle is Bah! But, it also means wild, or crazy. Now I invite readers to see an illustration taken fromFascinating Folktales of Thailand here. [[4]] It illustrates a scene from a folk tale about Princess Rochana and Prince Sangthong, here depicted in his guise as Jao Ngo Pa.Jao Meanslord in a wide range of usage, from supreme Lord of the Universe, to Lord of a country, to house-lord (head of household), down to sarcastically implying someone (who) does not know his place. [Sangthong means Golden Conch. Let it suffice to say theconch, pronounced as in English, is an extraordinarily sacred symbol inBrahman traditions.Rochana in other contexts means writer, author, or poet, but here is simply her name. (Any resemblance toSappho should be ignored.)]
- The tale of Rochana and Sangthong/Jao-Ngo is wildly popular in Thailand and is shown in every possible medium, from shadow puppet shows, to musicals, movies and children's cartoons. Restaurants featuring "soul food" from Thailand's extreme south advertise the fact with a black cutout having a red flower for an ear that depicts Jao Ngo.
- Rochana is a procelin-white princess that refuses to talk to men. Desperate to marry off his youngest daughter, her father sends embassies to six countries to seek six suitors for her hand. Six suitors come, but she refuses to see them all. Jao Ngo, who is having troubles aplenty of his own, hears about it and sends an emissary with a red flower. Intrigued, Rochana follows him to meet the coal-black man in the jungle, and immediately falls in love. The king and queen are horrified, and set a series of challenges for Jao Ngo that would daunt even a Hercules. Jao Ngo and Rochana prevail, and so marry. Jao Ngo then reveals his true self as Sangthong, with a body of gold, and it Rochana's turn to be horrified--she fell in love with a body of black.
- Astute Wikipedians will note a singular lack of references for this tale beyond that one illustration, so I don't know where to put it but here, on my own Talk page, andTalk:Blackface andTalk:Culture_of_Thailand. Any suggestions, gentle readers?Pawyilee 16:36, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi, the problem with thePalm leaf manuscript was that it was a copyright violation. Many paragraphs were copied & pasted from[5]. Of course being deleted as a copyvio does not prevent recreation from scratch.Garion96(talk)17:16, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Pawyilee04:54, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for stopping by. I haven't had a chance to check out the link, but I will. (Deadlines!) :( Peace, babe. :Ddeeceevoice06:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I replaced your edit to the above article. The reason you blanked most of the article is because you used the tag <ref> at the end of the reference rather than the correct </ref>. Cheers,Mattinbgn\talk20:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to see a source for your assertion that the King's nickname is Ong Lek. He wasn't a king, or even heir to the throne, when he was a child, and his childhood nickname was plain Lek. (My source for this is Hutchinson's book, which refers to him as Lek throughout). I agree that almost no-one would now call the king by his nickname. Maybe his wife does, and his late sister probably did. As for Thaksin, however, he is commonly called Meow in the Thai press, and caricatured as a cat. So I am going to modify the line you added, which isn't very encyclopaedic in any case.Intelligent Mr Toad (talk)17:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This "Billion Yantra" (billion as in may-you-become-a-billionare) chart may belong on theYantra page. Or not. I found it posted on a wall in a beauty shop inYasothon, but the owner knows nothing about it. At the bottom it appears to be attributed, not to a temple, but to a business selling amulets etc., in อ.ศรีเมืองใหม่Amphoe Si Mueang Mai, though I'm not all sure of the translation of สำนักสงฆ์สวนหิผานางคอย.
Google turned up this image for the supposed composer, หลวงปู่ (Venerated Grandfather) เซมจาโร (Semjaro):http://www.krusiam.com/shop/takhli/product/detail.asp?ProductID=P0035934I know nothing ofYantra orTantra in Thailand, much less what beasts are depicted coupling, so I fear the image is "orphaned" for now.Pawyilee (talk)05:51, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wow. I just realized (a month later) that I mixed up you and Sparkygravity. Very embarassing. I toldhim that I was creatingDarwin Among the Machines instead of you. Stupid. Sorry.
Good work onDarwin Among the Machines. I think this article is well researched, well written and interesting. Forgive me for trimming it out of "AI" and "History of AI" without talking to you about it first. I realized I should tell you right after I moved it, and then, like an idiot, I mixed you and Sparkygravity up, so anyway sorry.
(The reason I trimmed it, if it isn't obvious, is that I'm trying to keep these articles centered on "What major AI textbooks and popular histories tend to mention" with enough detail so that the major themes come through.) ----CharlesGillingham (talk)22:06, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Take a look atWikipedia:Images for how to upload and use images on Wikipedia, andWikipedia:Extended image syntax for the options about displaying images in articles. As it says on my user page, I'm blind so I can't really help with image placement ... ask about that on thehelp desk.Graham8707:34, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nice to see someone else working on Thai, and especially Isan articles; I was in Ubon until a couple of years ago. :) The more the better!HenryFlower11:16, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I've had a look at it; there's a lot of information there, which was interesting for me, but there's so little in the way of inline references that it's hard to disentangle the fact from the opinion. My other worry is that it's too western-centric, with a long section on the teaching of English - much as I'm interested in it myself, it's just one subject. I'm not sure I'm in a position to add much to this one though - what we really need is someone who can process a lot of Thai-language sources.HenryFlower11:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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With so much discussion and Henry Flower's talk page, maybe the time is right to continue the discussion on the appropriate discussion page for the article concerned. It is an article which now exists from the brief few confusing lines of the original stub, but agreed - it still needs improvement.Kudpung (talk)18:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments on my talk page - all feedback is most welcome. The Rocket Festival article is informative and well referenced but needs copy-editing into an encyclopedic style. As it treats a major aspect of Isan culture, it may be a suitable candidate, in edited form, for merging into the Culture section of theIsan article which has been aFeatured Article on several occasions.Kudpung (talk)12:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, you've got me there - there's nothing I know about it. I would however like to include your Rocket Festival in the culture section of the much revered article on Isan.Kudpung (talk)13:20, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The rocket festival is not confined to Yasothon. It's pretty much all over Isan, that's why I asked how you would feel about your article appearing on the Isan page. It was only a suggestion - I would certainly not consider modifying or moving it without discussing it first.Kudpung (talk)09:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I had a look at the article and the work in your sandbox. Gosh, it"s complicated stuff. To be honest, I can only write with style about things I know something about - that's why most of my contribs have long passages of text. The Lunar Calendar is a mass of information, probably what I can do is Wikify it a bit when you have a release version ready of your sandbox trial, but if all the information is in the logical order you want it too be, it's probably ok for publication. In the meantime, I'm doing stuff on all the Rhône wines. I will be in the UK from 15 May through 6 June with only a dial-up so I won't be doing much Wikying.Kud Pung village does not have DSL, so I have an iPstar satellite connection which is quite good but rather expensive.Kudpung (talk)09:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your vigilance. Do you know how to get the IP of people like that banned? I also heavily edited some other drivel and deleted what was totally off topic. The UK was cold and wet and I'm glad to be back. If you want any info on the iPstar broadband satellite connection, let me know.Kudpung (talk)22:26, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Sir: I am surprised and honoured by your request to edit your interesting article on the Thai calendar. I have made a few minor changes; I sincerely hope that you will find them acceptable.Writtenright (talk)22:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)Writtenright[reply]
Dear Sir: I have taken the very extreme liberty of editing your user page. I do hope that you will take it in the "Thai spirit" (you know what I mean).Writtenright (talk)22:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)Writtenright[reply]
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Hi. I've seen a lot of your nice contributions on Thailand-related articles and decided to drop by your user page. I've corrected a few spelling on tonal marks.Eakka (talk)14:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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If you've got some time, could you have a look atPeople's Alliance for Democracy? I'm very frustrated by what I think are some blatantly POV edits made by a trio of new users:Heavens child,BasicallySo, andGoodHands. NPOV can be made to work with controversial topics, but it takes lots of eyeballs and the willingness to play by Wikipedia rules. Hopefully you can provide another set of eyeballs and give some useful 3rd party opinions! Thanks a bunch.Patiwat (talk)06:10, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This is POV and not fact. An opposite POV would be that they are voting for parties that the PAD is against because those policies are better for them.
Well, no, you can't balance one POV with another one, but I'm hard put to rewrite it. I'm fromGeorgia (U.S. state) and know vote-buying isn'teasy, and that politicos can't get a refund for votes bought but not delivered. Where I live now, people have bought the office of อ.ป.ต. township commissioner, and been run out of office, if not out of town, when the projects commissioned went bust. Evidently, a law requires them to put up big green billboards on each project with their names, along with who they commissioned for what and for how much. Interestingly, the most recent billboards carry a 2-year expiration date. And a practice that has died out entirely was that of politicos painting their names and party affiliation on สาลาริมถนน roofs, which backfired when they only served as constant reminders of who was to blame.Pawyilee (talk)13:40, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Big Daddy Lee, I'm interested in your Lao aspect of the festival. The simple reason I ordered the Thai and Lao language parenthetical references was because of the weight of the article. By that I mean that this article is fundamentally about the Rocket Festival as documented through its practice and observations in Thailand. You and I both recognize the Laotian origin of the people and culture of Isan, so there is always that question. Of course, this Isan region of Thailand is like so many other places around the world, throughout time, where the 'people' and the 'country' don't align. We could show so many examples of how the Isan 'people' are Laotian. But, in today's context, they're Thai, nationally. And, in this article, you and I have incorporated photos from Yasothon, and Roi Et and you did some great work with that stuff from the Yasothon Municipal Bang Fai Museum. You've rasied a good point about the opportunity to continue to enhance the content of this article with some information about the correlation of the festival to the 'people', and by that way, underscore the ethnic and religious backgrounds of the people of Isan. -Thaimoss (talk)22:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Khun Pawyilee. I just noticed that you added content toThai highway network. The external link of this article (http://map-project.doh.go.th/ZoomRaster.asp) ist dead. Do you have an alternative? --hdamm (talk)16:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Dear user, you seem to bethink that I have made a contribution to an article. However, I'm the maintainer ofHotCat, which is a javascript tool that other users use in making edits. The edit that you suggest I have made, is made by another user most likely and you followed the HotCat link in that users edit summary. Users are however individually responsible for their edits, and therefore I cannot help you, you will have to talk to the other editor. --TheDJ (talk •contribs)14:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, Pawyilee. :) Reading your entry at the AfD, you don't say explicitly "Keep" or "Delete." Please amend your comments so that your vote can be tallied when the time comes. Thanks for stopping by and weighing in -- and happy new year! :Ddeeceevoice (talk)20:49, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Pawyilee. I noticed that you've done a lot of edits on this article and seem to be somewhat knowledgable. I'm an active cleanup editor and noticed that this article needed a little work. I've done some extensive editing to the article to make it more readable and clarify a few things. If you could check over my work to make sure that I didn't mess up anything, I'd be most appreciative. I'm not knowledgable about the Thai calendar, so I could only go on what was there. Thanks! --Lendorien (talk)16:35, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Pawyilee. This article has now been considerably expanded and reedited, reassessed and promoted, but a template was added disputing the neutrality of your contribution onThaification. Personally I can't see any issues with the neutrality, however, I do think the contrib would gain more in importance and relevance if it were transferred to the main page on Thaification which needs expanding, leaving a short mention on its influence on education, and a link to the main article. What do you think?Kudpung (talk)22:49, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A drafted new version of the Manual of Style for Thailand-related articles has been startedhere. Still at issue are specific naming conventions for Thai royals and nobles and settlements. As a member ofWikiProject Thailand, you are welcome to contribute to the discussion atWikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand#Updating the Manual of Style (part 2).Paul_012(talk)18:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I am quite interested in the idea you are proposing on this article's talk page. Regardless, as it is a Featured Article, it would have to bide by the policies and guidelines of veriability and reliable sourcing. As such, I am going about the steps of showing explicitly that the name and function of the idol in the article are said by the subject in question. Do you thinkthis edit has made it clear? Please share your thoughts on the talk page.Jappalang (talk)12:15, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Pawyilee, this is nothing to do with Thailand (I have to change my focus from time to time), but wonder if I could impose on you for a completely unbiased review ofMalvern Water.The article that I recently split from its parent and expanded has just been tagged for POV and weasel words. As I'm generally extremely careful what I write, I can't really see any justification in the editor's comments. If you have time could you please take a look it and make any suggestions you think fit on its talk page, and/or come out in support of it. It certainly doesn't lack any notability, and it's well referenced. Many thanks. --Kudpung (talk)05:02, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just found the right book for it will start soonSodacan (talk)01:16, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for the article, its very interesting. Really looking forward to Anupong getting an earful from Patrick Leahy, tickets to that please! It was telling I thought when Hillary Clinton on her first visit to Asia on behalf of the new administration would go to Indonesia first, even before Singapore or Thailand. Seeing as Indonesian is now a economically and politically more stable than us. What a contrast us in 1997 and Indonesia in 1997 and now 2010 Indonesia a relatively stable democracy and Thailand in complete meltdown.
Anyway I just finished this article please have a look and edit away-Burmo-Siamese War (1548–49)Sodacan (BTW I have never seen the movie) (talk)15:34, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Paw. Nice to see that you are still following the Thai articles, and thanks again for your input. I must admit I haven't been very busy on them lately except for cleaning up the inevitable spam on Pattaya stuff, etc. I've been rather busy micromanaging a Wikipedia project about my home county in the UK. There seems to be some new editors who are helping to clean up some of the Thai articles, including the one on Education. It's a shame they can't read up on Wikipedia policy before complaining about what others do. I've suggested that if they don't like the article, I can have it deleted so that they can write a new one themselves. it was probably a rather brusque comment, but some people that think a high edit count from just correcting work that other people have spent hours doing, is the path to adminship. Best regards, --Kudpung (talk)00:39, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi,
I have deleted all your changes to the Thai royal and noble titles article. First of all I understand why you would want to put the information where you did, but apart from it being of linguistic interests and trivial coincidence, it is not correct. 'abhisit' is a word, not a title- put the definition in a dictionary not on a noble titles page. Ammat is a title, but it is a government title like Palad Krasuang or Ratamontri NOT, again not a noble title- if you want to provide the information somewhere put it in a proper page, otherwise you are encouraging to the worst kind of political discussion: trivial and personal. I am no fan of Abhisit or his crew but this is absurd.Sodacan (talk)10:28, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, at least you have a handle on the problem, if only you can put yourself in the flip-flops (เกิบ)of the ones being laughed at. The red shirts' beef is not with Abhisit's name, but with the noun abhisit. Nor do they have a beef with the name of a title given to anyone's ancestor, but with people calledcourtiers (ammat in Thai.) Take time to click on the link for other shirts opinion of stereotypicalcourtiers. What I'd like to do is clarify for readers the stereotypes in play among 2010 protesters. You sayprai hasn't been used since the Ayutthaya period. You obviously haven't been to Bangkok lately. If you like, I can send you the T-shirt. You also haven't been to red shirt country lately, or you'd know that university-educated Thai native speakers are fairly easy to find. And my wife, who holds a ปริญญาตี from the University of Hard Knocks, knows the meaning of abhisit and does not like it, though she's never said anything about him. Meanwhile, the subject matter ofThao,Si/Sri,Prai,Ammat,Abhisit andAbhisitchon can sit inmy sandbox for all I care for as long as you care to exercise your abhisit. --Pawyilee (talk)13:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
“ | Honorifics are a class ofwords or grammaticalmorphemes that encode a wide variety of social relationships between interlocutors or between interlocutors and referents. | ” |
We need to settle this soon, or let it go forever, as I expect any day now arryathamm will end, along with electricity and web service. --Pawyilee (talk)10:59, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Again please explain to me your objections, I'm still waiting.Sodacan (talk)12:19, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Mootros (talk)19:37, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I put the little brown jug of Renu in theSato (rice wine) article in the first place, but someone else objected that my posting appeared to be an advertisement rather than an explication of the rather amusing advertisements on such jugs, and suggested I move it to its own article. I'm happy you merged it back where it belongs, though I've gone back and re-worded it considerably. Please edit my edit, if you please! --Pawyilee (talk)14:50, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for terminating with extreme prejudice. It's just that ... well, all too often, after I've done my almost-daily review of recent edits, looking for the subtler forms of vandalism and other transgressions, I seldom have much enthusiasm left over to properly address a new topic. Especially if it hasn't gotten off to a good start on its own. The article used to be drowning in (undoubtedly well-intentioned)WP:HOWTO vios, and still has some spam in its references. I worked for weeks cleaning that stuff out and reorganizing.
I've heard about dry ice for abatement, and in fact the article does need a section on professional detection and extermination techniques. Actually, I think it used to mention dry ice treatment. However, the fact that bedbugs (and their eggs) can be killed by freezing (and perhaps with CO2 atmosphere saturation) is something you can infer from the biology section. That's how I left it after nuking everything how-to related.
Dry ice treatment is fairly new, and of uncertain value to most people. ("New", by itself, isn't bad -- the use of dogs for sniffing out nests is new. But it's also apparently very effective.) The solid, proven, mainstream treatments ought to get first priority.
Still, if you put in a section on treatments that only mentioned dry ice, and kept itbrief (please don't do the whole journalistic who-what-when-where-why, it makes it sound even more spammy), and withWP:RS-compliant sourcing, I think it would be OK. I might tag it asWP:UNDUE. But not to get it deleted, really. More to get other, more worthy stuff mentioned in the same section.Yakushima (talk)05:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if mentioning the USMC reading list inStarship Troopers is fair, then saying something about it inEnder's Game should be fine. It's funny how the reading list recommends it from PFC up a few grades, stops, then it reappears at the officer's candidate level.Yakushima (talk)14:01, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, yes read it. Thank you for this info.Rajkris (talk)08:53, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I wanted to be sure to let you know directly that I just left a reply to your comments on the above subject on the talk page of the Camp Douglas (Chicago) article. I appreciate your remarks, especially because you correctly pointed out some problems with my last revision, and your approach to the matter. I leave my remarks from the discussion page in the article again here for convenience:
See my reply to your comment on the Battle of Griswoldville talk page. I won't repeat it all here but the nutshell version is that your point is right but your web site source appears to be inaccurate. I think it is only by chance that it cites a figure in the ball park for Union Army soldiers over the age of 44 (but somewhat off if you include 44 year olds). You will see the error; they used the figure just for 44 year olds and ignored the older ages. A worse error is made for the soldiers age 26 to 43, I note what I think is a better source for your point, which is the 1 million enlistment study itself, properly read and interpreted.Donner60 (talk)08:53, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
{{helpme}}How do I search for other language wikis? I feel sure there must be some besides English and Thai forPhra Mae Thorani. --Pawyilee (talk)14:03, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Talkback|Talk:Electoral College (United States)|Number of electoral votes per state per election (talk)23:11, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Among your other confusions regardingSt John's College, Cambridge, I'm intrigued as to why you madethis edit, addingDavid Cameron? Did you readDavid Cameron#Education, which says, clearly, that he was atBrasenose, Oxford? And if Cameron *had* been a Johnian, don't you think he would already be listed among our alumni? -David Biddulph (talk)08:20, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, I have taken the liberty to reverse some changes you made to theDemocrat Party's article.
I also removed the 'Party Leadership' section as it conveyed nothing more than the infobox at the top.
I hope you understand this was done with the best of intentions.Gonefishing (talk)18:45, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the "controversy" stuff you added toSolar panel. None of that was actually controversy about solar panels themselves; rather, it was about companies that make solar panels. That would be like adding info about the various lawsuits McDonalds has faced toHamburger, or adding information about GM's bankruptcy and bailout toautomobile.Qwyrxian (talk)12:44, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Talkback|Goldsztajn#Yes.2C_it_was_relevant_as_background
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Please tell me what you think of the opening paragraph you now get when you click onSiam. Though I wrote it myself, I don't like it and think a better editor could make it much more concise.
Write now. I have too many irons in the fire. I only recently discovered theLaotian Rebellion in the Vietnam portal, and it is in serious need need of rescue. Please meet me over atTalk:Laotian_Rebellion! --Pawyilee (talk)09:29, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The book itself is notnotable and so cannot have its own article here in Wikipedia, but as you say it does includes some important information. Given thatit is out of copyright, my suggestion is that it be added toWikibooks -see here.Neutralitytalk00:05, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I left Anderson AFB in Guam in 1973.....I was the ten year old kid at the airport anxiously waiting to breath air I couldn't feel as I moved (the most humid place I ever experianced...for two years) LOL!--Amadscientist (talk) 05:46, 18 February 2012 (UTC)...And depending on what time of the year that was....your pay stubs might have had my dads name on them ;)!--Amadscientist (talk)05:49, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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My thought is that the article would be easier to write ifSiamese invasion of Kedah existed. And it should exist, anyway. In particular the previous involvement of the East India Company is pretty much essential background for Crawfurd's interests; and it occurred in 1821. So, how would you like to proceed? There is abook by Bonney that is highly relevant; the Google Books view is only snippet, but I happen to have had it on my shelves for a very long time. Crawfurd is cited about 10 times. I could just start a draft in the next few days, and we could see how it looked.Charles Matthews (talk)17:58, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Good luck.Charles Matthews (talk)07:27, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Pawyilee, did something go wrong there? Best,Drmies (talk)14:20, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Roberts. Done. --Pawyilee (talk)12:12, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Good job on the article ... it had puzzled me that there was no article on him when I wroteTurban Head eagle ... well done.--Wehwalt (talk)10:26, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I have deleted almost all of your expansion toBanyan merchants, sorry. I know that you have been around for ages, but have you ever readWP:QUOTEFARM? Sure, it is an essay but I think that you will find that it has a wide base of support. What I didn't do was tag theHobson-Jobson dictionary definition, but I would prefer a much more modern source because there were some rather peculiar philological things going on around that time and generally we seem to avoid usingH-J in Indian society articles etc. -Sitush (talk)04:11, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings, Pawyilee!
I was utterly ignorant in my understanding of Wikipedia designation for that particular nationality. Let me re-state that sentence: My ignorance was not limited to Wikipedia, but extended to U.S. State Department and global passport and immigration naming standards as well. Apparently, Wikipedia's usage is consistent with such standards. It is a particularly egregious mistake on my part, given that my nationality is the same as yours.
Please forgive me for the tone of voice used in the reason field, regarding my edit to philanthropistBrewster Kahle's biography article? He is a hero, in my eyes, as he contributes something of inestimable value, with virtually no public recognition or acclaim, and does so without remuneration.
Also, thank you so much for your message on my talk page. I am appreciative. If it were not for your considerate behavior, taking the time to advise me of the proper naming conventions for nationality, I potentially would have made other erroneous edits (fortunately, I had not done so yet). Many others would not have bothered to be so kind as to inform me. I will re-check my work, and ensure that the prior nationality in question is reinstated per your original work. --FeralOink (talk)09:55, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. I've flaggedTây Sơn-Siam War for speedy deletion underCSD G7 because you blanked it with the summary 'delete'. Regards,MatthewThompsontalk to me bro!11:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Yeah, I mean I see where the source is coming from, but the vast majority of those deaths (according to the derivation sourced to R J Rummel onList of ongoing military conflicts) are from North Korea killing its own citizens, and much as they often happen together, war and genocide aren't the same thing. The war in Congo is regarded as a war, but Korea is mostly regarded as political; I suppose you could characterise it as a cold war, but that still doesn't mean Kim Jong-Il killing millions of his own people counts as wartime casualties.Herr Gruber (talk)13:19, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Paw.! As I gathered you're the main author, I dropped a question on the article DP. Can you cast a glance on it ? Thanks beforehand, t.y.Arapaima (talk)09:04, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Khmu people have only User:Kwamikagami with a registered account, whom I asked for advice as to what I should do with the following:
Footnote 8) 'Kha' is the common, though somewhat pejorative, term used for the Austroasiatic tribal people of Northeast Thailand, Laos, and Viet-nam. I use it here because it is common parlance in the literature and for lack of a better term.
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(help)Royal Institute of Thailand#1999_edition online has a similar def. 2.
I implore your advice before making any changes to the existing article. Addition of the term would entail changingKha from a redirect to a disambiguation, which would then need numerous additions for similar-sounding Thai words with the same transliteration, but different Thai spellings and meanings. It would also call for an addition toRacial_slurs#K.
With that out of the way, I could attempt using the single source for theHoly Man's Rebellion (1901-1902).
As to that, I puzzled as to whyCharles Keyes would refer to such as "Millenialism," "Millennialism" or "Millenarianism," when it seems to me a clear-cut case ofMessianism, given that this particular Holy Man was putting himself forward as the BuddhistMaitreya.
Hold on: I just looked up his tribal affiliation and found these three articles.
Should I just go hide my head?
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My original question was about how — or more specifically, what heading to use and where — to incorporate the pejorative term "ka" or "kha" into the article — as well as McCarthy's account of the "well-known" Pumpkin story. (HISTORY OF THE KHMU: The beliefs and the religion of the Môn-Khmer family are related to the well-known Pumpkin story which explains their origins.) —Pawyilee (talk)04:26, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Talked back to Spinningspark.--Pawyilee (talk)07:58, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The article is about a person. It appears that your addition is about the region. That is why I doubt its relevance? Does the book mention him? If so, mention the relevant pages and it is a useful addition to the page.Pete unseth (talk)12:58, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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