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If you've stopped by to DS Alert me.... I already know about the following....NewsAndEventsGuy (talk)18:34, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Entirely by accident, I just stumbled across this when I saw it on someone else's talk page. I would have contributed in the "consultation" phase, but I was wikihibernating and didn't know about it.Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions/2021_review. In case anyone else doesn't know about it and happens to come by my talk, I thought I'd put this here and invite you to start following that process also.NewsAndEventsGuy (talk)00:48, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just wanted to say please forgive my blathering. As you might suspect, we wandered into an area of interest for me. All the same, you make good points, and as I say, happy to go wherever consensus takes us. Cheers.Dumuzid (talk)23:46, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for this edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard&oldid=1095216173), I didn't see it that you unarchived it yourself in the edit summary. Somehow, my browser was still at an older version which I opened hours ago and somehow didn't update. Thanks and sorry for the mistake!VickKiang (talk)07:27, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
At the bottom of every page there's a toggle button to go back and forth between mobile and desktop.Moxy-
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You have beenblocked from editing for a period of48 hours for makingpersonal attacks towards other editors. Once the block has expired, you are welcome tomake useful contributions.User talk:Tamzin 22:53, 28 July 2022
"uncomfortable", that would be untrue, and now that I have told you if you say it anyway it would be a lie. I'm happy to help you understand what my true feelings about this are/were, but only by email so you don't interpret such comments as another NPA violation and block me again. If you want to understand where I'm coming from, I would welcome that email-based discussion. I'm going to break the ice by emailing you a wiki diff to this comment, so I will expose my email address first. It's up to you if you want to pursue better understanding about this exchange. If not, that's OK, but if you choose that option please recuse from future admin action towards me about anything.NewsAndEventsGuy (talk)00:28, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As of Aug 3, 2022, discussion of the underlyingpotentially life-saving issues has migrated toWikipedia_talk:Resonding to threats of harmNewsAndEventsGuy (talk)20:14, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My goodness, what has happened?-- Deepfriedokra (talk)19:38, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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You were mentioned here.[1] It doesn’t seem that the editor making accusations against you properly informed you of his SPI against you (which could have the effect of a banning a member). Advising you boomerang this to ANI to have his TBAN reinstated since it’s obvious he is scapegoating you for his ongoing soapbox against Wikipedia refusing to drive his NPOV agenda.174.215.18.76 (talk)16:52, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In a truly soap-opera-esque twist, your alleged sox are actually sox of this very IP.:D All sorted now, for some value of sorted. Histmerged without redirect toWikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ethiopique.--Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe)10:21, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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We meet again.User:Flora Wilshirehas a history of ignoring reverts and pushing their version, which is usually a criticism of America or praise of the Chinese government.
I can see why you would consider "known POV editor" to be a violation ofWP:ASPERSIONS, butWP:NPA says casting aspersions would be, "Accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence. Serious accusations require serious evidence, usually in the form of diffs and links".
I'm happy tolinktothese diffs to stand by what I said.
On the other hand, I'm curious what you would consider to be a more acceptable way to explain someone's editing history in an edit summary. I try consistently to explain edits, especially reversions.Augusthorsesdroppings10 (talk)00:57, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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It's so nice to see you around still! I saw you giveout an old DS notice. You may have missed the conclusion of the recent DS reforms. The wording DS is now replaced with the more intuitive CT (contentious topic). The way notifications are done is changed in two ways too:
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Did you find an answer tothis question, which I saw in the archives? If not,WP:VPT might be the place to ask.—Vchimpanzee • talk •contributions •00:24, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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