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COIVRT

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There have been some developments related toticket:2024051410011283 in the, uh, year and a half since it was filed, if you've any interest in taking a look. I've only investigated as far as I mentioned in my note. --asilvering (talk)23:44, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Responded. Glad to see someone finally making a dent in the backlog!Extraordinary Writ (talk)01:35, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry, I'll leave all the hard ones for you. --asilvering (talk)01:57, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Funny, I thought that's what I was doing...Extraordinary Writ (talk)02:10, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion ofMatthew Kantakouzenos

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It appears a banned user moved this page toMatthew Asen Kantakouzenos (?) but I don't think the solution is to delete the article, Matthew was a historical emperor with a long-standing article and there are now redlinks to his name in a lot of places, e.g.List of Roman emperors,John VI Kantakouzenos,John V Palaiologos, etc. Could the page be reinstated as it was before these shenanigans?Megartonius (talk)09:53, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that! I thought I had filtered out all the page moves, but apparently not. Now undeleted, along withHugh III, Count of Maine, where the same thing happened.Extraordinary Writ (talk)14:24, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For talk-page watchers' entertainment...

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To see what our new robotic competitors atGrokipedia are up to, I decided to glance overtheir equivalent of one of my FAs, on Supreme Court justiceWiley Rutledge. It was actually better than I expected—very thorough, with plenty of information and analysis that even my longer-than-average article doesn't include. But of course, it has all the problems you might expect, including hallucinations. In the real world, Rutledge voted with the majority to uphold Japanese internment in the tragic case ofKorematsu v. United States, the one major black mark on his record as an ardent defender of civil liberties. Grokipedia sort of realizes this at one point (talking strangely about his "decisive fifth vote in the 6-3 decision"), but elsewhere it gets very confused and starts talking about how his "lone dissent" was powerfully vindicated by history. That's precisely the opposite of what happened.

Fortunately, Grokipedia has a helpful feature where you can "Ask Grok" your questions about the article. I highlighted one of the dubious passages and asked Grok whether it was true. Unsurprisingly, it defended Grokipedia's honor, even hallucinating up a passage from Rutledge's non-existent dissent for me. When I asked it about the part that correctly said Rutledge was in the majority, it threw the accurate passage under the bus and insisted that the bogus one was right. I then asked it one last question, which was enough to finally push poor Grok over the edge.You can enjoy the whole thing here, but suffice it to say that after thirty-three or so attempts (all in response to my one prompt!), the "BOTTOM LINE" was still not the answer thatour article's infobox prints plain as day.

I don't think we'll need to be worrying about Grok/Grokipedia anytime soon.Extraordinary Writ (talk)00:49, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Categorization of AE protection actions needed (30 October 2025)

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Hello Extraordinary Writ,

I'm a bot that helps logarbitration enforcement (AE) protection actions on behalf of the Arbitration Committee. As a result of aSeptember 2025 motion by the Arbitration Committee, administrators are no longer required to manually log AE protection actions. Instead, this bot is responsible for logging AE protections to theAE protection log.

While logging AE protections, this bot detected that you recently took the following page protection actions. These action(s) seemed to be AE actions based on the edit summaries, but the bot wasn't able to tell which arbitration case they related to:

If these were AE actions, please take a moment to log the appropriate topic code atthe AE protection log. If they were not, feel free to remove the actions from the AE protection log, and optionally let thebot operator know about the false positives.

Going forward, in order to help this bot categorize AE actions, please include a link to the contentious topic under which the action was taken in the protection edit summary (for example,[[WP:CT/BLP]] or[[Wikipedia:Contentious topics/Biographies of Living Persons]]).

If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to thebot operator or to the arbitration clerks at thearbitration clerks' noticeboard.

Thank you!ClerkBot (talk)13:00, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Guide to temporary accounts

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Hello, Extraordinary Writ. This message is being sent to remind you of significant upcoming changes regarding logged-out editing.

Starting 4 November, logged-out editors will no longer have their IP address publicly displayed. Instead, they will have atemporary account (TA) associated with their edits. Users with some extended rights like administrators and CheckUsers, as well as users with thetemporary account IP viewer (TAIV) user right will still be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range.

How do temporary accounts work?

Editing from a temporary account
  • When a logged-out user completes an edit or a logged action for the first time, a cookie will be set in this user's browser and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created for them. This account's name will follow the pattern:~2025-12345-67 (a tilde, year of creation, a number split into units of 5).
  • All subsequent actions by the temporary account user will be attributed to this username. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser.
  • A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. Users with thetemporary account IP viewer (TAIV) user right will be able to see the underlying IP addresses.
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    • There has to be a minimum of 10 minutes between subsequent temporary account creations from the same IP (or /64 range in case of IPv6).
    • There can be a maximum of 6 temporary accounts created from an IP (or /64 range) within a period of 24 hours.

Temporary account IP viewer user right

How to enable IP Reveal

Impact for administrators

  • It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects theautoblock option.
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  • Publicly linking a TA to another TA is allowed if "reasonably believed to be necessary". (e.g.~2025-12345-67 and ~2025-12345-68 are likely the same person, so I am counting their reverts together toward3RR, but notHey ~2025-12345-68, you did some good editing as ~2025-12345-67)
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Most of this message was written byMz7 (source). Thanks, 🎃SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk)02:48, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Huh

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I hadn't noticed that, thanks for pointing it out. I just sent something to the COI mailing list that might interest you, btw.Moneytrees🏝️(Talk)00:03, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, responded.Extraordinary Writ (talk)06:42, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – November 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2025).

Administrator changes

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Sent byMediaWiki message delivery (talk)16:34, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You've got mail

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Hello, Extraordinary Writ. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You canremove this notice at any time by removing the{{You've got mail}} or{{ygm}} template.Barkeep49 (talk)03:17, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New page reviewer approval

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Hi sir, just checked upon your comment on my request. You specified about copyright. I would like to bring to your notice that it was a copyvio glitch which resulted in false diagnosis of a violation of copyright whenDraft: Partial meltdown of Leningrad unit 1 and Chernobyl unit 1 was reviewed. But that revision was instantly undone by the reviewer, with whom I confirmed that there is no violation. If there are any other issues with me getting the rights, please do let me know, so that I can rectify them and refile my request. Thank you.IND123456 (talk)08:30, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there was also the copying-without-attribution issue that Diannaa mentioned a couple weeks ago, although I see you've taken that feedback to heart. But yeah, the bigger issue is that you're still pretty new and don't have very much of the experience required for this right (seeWP:NPPCRITERIA point #2). If you're interested in reviewing new pages, consider participating atWP:AFD or looking throughSpecial:NewPagesFeed for articles that need to be deleted. You could also apply at some pointto be an AfC reviewer, which usually has a lower threshold than the NPP permission.Extraordinary Writ (talk)19:15, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's true that I was unaware of the attributions. But I have well corrected myself. I also understand you point. Filed request for AFC helper script.IND123456 (talk)04:30, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

December 2025 administrator elections - schedule

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Administrator Elections |Schedule

  • The December 2025 administrator elections are set to proceed.
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ArbCom 2025 Elections voter message

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Books & Bytes – Issue 71

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The Wikipedia Library:Books & Bytes
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Articles for Creation backlog drive

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Hello Extraordinary Writ:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding amonth longBacklog Drive in December!
The goal of this drive is toreduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than half a month of outstanding reviews from the current 2+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 December 2025 through 31 December 2025.

You may findCategory:AfC pending submissions by age orother categories and sorting helpful.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is a backlog of over 3000 pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help!MediaWiki message delivery (talk)06:07, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator Elections - Call for Candidates

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The administrator elections process has officially started! Interested editors are encouraged to self-nominate or arrange to be nominated by reviewing the instructions atWikipedia:Administrator elections/December 2025/Candidates.

Here is the schedule:

  • November 25 – December 1 - Call for candidates
  • December 4–8 - Discussion phase
  • December 9–15 - SecurePoll voting phase

Please note the following:

  • The requirements to run are identical toRFA—a prospective candidate must beextended confirmed.
  • Prospective candidates are advised to become familiar with the community's expectations of administrators, which are much higher than the minimum requirement of having extended confirmed status. This includes reviewingsuccessful andunsuccessful RFAs, reading the essayWikipedia:Advice for admin elections candidates, and possibly requesting anoptional poll on their chances of passing.
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk)00:49, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Graham87 (talk)04:15, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The mangled subject line was because of a cut-and-paste error, but I'm sure you'll get the idea ...Graham87 (talk)04:19, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, responded.Extraordinary Writ (talk)05:58, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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