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This is anarchive of past discussions withUser:DatGuy.Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on thecurrent talk page.

5000 edits and one goes oddly

SeeUser_talk:Ronhjones#File:Google_Video_Player_window.png - as far as I can see all is OK, but the api call obviously failed. Can the api call to revdel the file be done to give a result? If so then we could skip the template removal.Ronhjones ^(Talk)01:01, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

On the other hand, if it only affects one in every five thousand files, then it could maybe just be ignored. My bot just retags the file again, so it'll just delay the deletion by a week. --Stefan2 (talk)20:21, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

@Ronhjones: Not sure what you mean. Do you mean to check if the API result says the request failed to redo it? That might cause it to just be stuck in a never ending loop in case the API stops working (as happened during the server migration tests in which editing was disabled).Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs18:31, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

I was thinking about skipping it until the next day (not loop until it works!). but asUser:Stefan2 - it is only an odd one, maybe we leave it alone for now and monitor the fails.Ronhjones ^(Talk)18:54, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Another failure:File:Groupe communiste, républicain, et citoyen.png (two old revisions, the bot only deleted one of them). Not sure this meets the threshold of originality, by the way. --Stefan2 (talk)20:09, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-30

Latesttech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.Translations are available.

Recent changes

CSS in templates will be stored in a separate page in the future. This will make it easier to make templates look good on mobile devices. This now works onmediawiki.org andWikitech. It will come to more wikis later.[1][2][3]
.mw-ui-constructive modifier class is deprecated and has been removed.[4]

Changes later this week

Thenew version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 July. It will be on all wikis from 27 July (calendar).
It will be possible to restrict who can send you notifications on a wiki. This new feature will accessible in your preferences,in the Notifications tab, on Wednesday, July 26. Please seethe documentation.[5]

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on25 July at 19:00 (UTC). Seehow to join.
You can join the Wikimedia Foundation July 2017 Metrics & Activities Meeting. The meeting is about how Wikipedia and the Wikimedia movement are perceived and understood by the world. The meeting will be on27 July at 19:00 (UTC). Seethe agenda and how to join.

Future changes

New Filters for Edit Review, at the moment available as a Beta feature,will be released by default for the Recent Changes in September.

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15:58, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

YourGA nomination ofBelize at the 2016 Summer Olympics

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the articleBelize at the 2016 Summer Olympics you nominated forGA-status according to thecriteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period.Message delivered byLegobot, on behalf ofTonyBallioni --TonyBallioni (talk)21:01, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

TonyBallioni I've been away for a while and not had access to a computer. Could you not fail the GA but give me another week or so to fix the issues? Thanks,19:44, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Placed on hold. No problem. Ping me when you've addressed them.TonyBallioni (talk)18:04, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

File:Everybody's Fool (Evanescence single - cover art).jpg

Odd behaviour by DatBot - size is 471 × 415 = 195465 pixels and DatBot says "Removing{{Non-free reduce}} since file is already adequately reduced"!Ronhjones ^(Talk)22:19, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

There's alsoFile:The Essential Mondo Rock.jpg where the bot reduced the file and then removed{{nfr}} one day later without tagging the file for old non-free revisions. Sure, my bot catches those files, but it looks a bit strange. --Stefan2 (talk)18:43, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

using the fancy (and not very practical) mobile interface, excuse any issues* I've disabled the task since I will be away for a bit and can't take care of issues.Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs19:52, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

RfA

Have you considered it? I think you have good odds. ~Rob₁₃^Talk05:06, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

@BU Rob13: Check your email.Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs19:44, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

YourGA nomination ofBelize at the 2016 Summer Olympics

The articleBelize at the 2016 Summer Olympics you nominated as agood article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting thegood article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. SeeTalk:Belize at the 2016 Summer Olympics for things which need to be addressed.Message delivered byLegobot, on behalf ofTonyBallioni --TonyBallioni (talk)18:21, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-31

Latesttech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.Translations are available.

Problems

Some pages show the errorLua error in mw.wikibase.entity.lua at line 34: The entity data must be a table obtained via mw.wikibase.getEntityObject. This problem happens on pages with aLua module that uses Wikidata. The developers are working on fixing the problem. You can fix a page by opening it for editing and then saving without changing anything.[6]
Wikidata and German Wikipedia could not be edited for an hour on 28 July. You can read why and how we could avoid it in the future in theincident report.

Changes later this week

Some wikis already have the larger and brighterOOjs UI edit page buttons. All remaining wikis except Commons will have these from 1 August.[7]
Thenew version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 August. It will be on all wikis from 3 August (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on1 August at 19:00 (UTC). Seehow to join.

Future changes

The default font in the edit window will soon change for some users. Instead of using the browser default it will be monospace. Users can change this in their preferences. This should only change this for some users on Macs and iOS devices.[8]

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21:45, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Your "compromised account" block

Hi DatGuy, thought I'd summarise here for interested parties about your recent block. Credible information suggested that your email account was recently compromised, which prompted me to place a block on this account as apreventative measure. It turns out that you have followed our account security best practices, which meant that your account remained secure during this incident. My block was entirely an over-reaction, so apologies for adding a line to your block log --There'sNoTime^{(to explain)}21:45, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Not a problem. Better safe than sorry. TL;DR to any talk page watchers: not logging out of email + random people = annoying email to people.Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs21:50, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

I came here to follow-up on this very situation and to reach out to you. Glad your account is okay :-)~Oshwah~^{(talk)(contribs)}21:55, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-32

Latesttech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.Translations are available.

Recent changes

You can now see which Wikipedia language versions are read in a specific country. This tool is calledWikipedia Views Visualized.[9]
The Architecture Committee is now theWikimedia Technical Committee. You can read thecharter.[10]

Problems

You can get an email when a page on your watchlist was edited. You can choose not to get emails for minor edits. There is a bug that means that you then don't get an email when someone does a normal edit after a minor edit. The developers are working on fixing this. Until it has been fixed you can activate "Email me also for minor edits of pages and files" at the bottom of "User profile" in your preferences if you want to.[11]
The thanks button sometimes didn't work for mobile users. This was because of a new bug and has now been fixed.[12]

Changes later this week

Thenew version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 August. It will be on all wikis from 10 August (calendar).

Future changes

Editors and readers who still use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP will not be able to use Wikipedia. Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP can't connect securely to the wikis. When we allow them to do so it means that we get less security for everyone else. If you use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP you can installFirefox 52 ESR instead. Around 0.1% of the traffic to the Wikimedia wikis comes from Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP.[13]
Links to sections on Wikipedia don't work well in languages that don't use theLatin script. TheURL in the address bar in your browser shows Latin characters like.D0.A1.D1.81.D1.8B.D0.BB.D0.BA.D0.B8 instead of the section heading in the wiki's language. Links to sections in non-Latin scripts will be in the script of that wiki in the future. This will happen in the next few months.[14][15]
Wiki pages printed by the web browser "Print" function will have an updated style. This new style will be similar to the when you download a page as PDF. It will be better at showing tables, infoboxes and headings.[16][17]

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21:45, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

YourGA nomination ofBrunei at the 2016 Summer Olympics

The articleBrunei at the 2016 Summer Olympics you nominated as agood article has passed; seeTalk:Brunei at the 2016 Summer Olympics for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you cannominate it to appear in Did you know.Message delivered byLegobot, on behalf ofQatarStarsLeague --QatarStarsLeague (talk)16:41, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

YourGA nomination ofSão Tomé and Príncipe at the 2016 Summer Olympics

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the articleSão Tomé and Príncipe at the 2016 Summer Olympics you nominated forGA-status according to thecriteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period.Message delivered byLegobot, on behalf ofQatarStarsLeague --QatarStarsLeague (talk)17:21, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

QatarStarsLeague As I said above to TonyBallioni, could I have some more time? Thanks.Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs18:04, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes, certainly you may.QatarStarsLeague (talk)01:11, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

YourGA nomination ofBelize at the 2016 Summer Olympics

The articleBelize at the 2016 Summer Olympics you nominated as agood article has passed; seeTalk:Belize at the 2016 Summer Olympics for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you cannominate it to appear in Did you know.Message delivered byLegobot, on behalf ofTonyBallioni --TonyBallioni (talk)14:21, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-33

Latesttech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.Translations are available.

Recent changes

Bureaucrats can now set users asconfirmed. Previously only stewards could do this on most wikis. Nothing will change for wikis that have previously decided to let administrators set users as confirmed.[18]

Problems

The symbols in the language list that show that an article is good or featured in that language doesn't work. Links to the Commons category in the sidebar doesn't work either. The developers are working on fixing it.[19][20]

Changes later this week

Thenew version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 August. It will be on all wikis from 17 August (calendar).

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23:29, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Precious

international sports 2016

Thank you for quality articles such asThe International 2016,Cortana, andBelize at the 2016 Summer Olympics and many other small countries there, for articles on sports people and villages, forsupport, - you are anawesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk)12:06, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Thank you! P.S. I didn't really improve The International 2016 article, that was Dissident93 :).Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs11:59, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

COI - of a different kind

Hi DatGuy/Archives/2017. Because it involves New Page and AfC reviewers along with other maintenance workers (SPI, COIN), an informal chat has begun on some aspects of paid editing. SeeConflict of Interest - of a different kind. Please add your thoughts there. It is not a debate or RfC.
FromWP:NPPAFC.Opt-out. Sent byMediaWiki message delivery (talk)13:24, 20 August 2017 (UTC).

Tech News: 2017-34

Latesttech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.Translations are available.

Recent changes

You can now test the newTimeless skin onthe test wiki andmediawiki.org. You can turn it on in your preferences. You can report bugsin Phabricator. It will come to more wikis soon.[21][22]
Your watchlist can now have the option to unwatch pages. You have to turn this on in your preferences.[23]
If a table has several columns you can often choose which column you want to use to sort the table. This has not worked for some columns for readers who have used Firefox or Safari. This has now been fixed.[24]
TheRelatedArticles extension has shown related pages on Wikivoyages. You will now see the related pages at the end of the article together with an image. Previously the links were in the sidebar. Wikis that want this extension can request it onPhabricator.

Changes later this week

Videos will now be played in theWebM format in all browsers. Previously some browsers usedOgg Theora (.ogv). If you use Safari, Internet Explorer or Edge you may see slower playback speed at high resolutions. Instead we will get better quality and smaller file size. You can still upload video as Ogg files. They are automatically converted to WebM. This doesn't affect Ogg audio files.[25]
The default font in the edit window will change for some users this week. Instead of using the browser default, it will be monospace. Users can change this in their preferences. This should only change this for some users on Macs and iOS devices.[26]
Thenew version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 August. It will be on all wikis from 24 August (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on23 August at 15:00 (UTC). Seehow to join.
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on22 August at 19:00 (UTC). Seehow to join.

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18:01, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello DatGuy/Archives/2017, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

The new page backlog is currently at16,991 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a a day.

Technology update:

Rentier has createda NPP browser in WMF Labs that allows you to search new unreviewed pages using keywords and categories.

General project update:

The Wikimedia Foundation Community Tech team is working with the community to implement theautoconfirmed article creation trial. The trial is currently set to start on 7 September 2017, pending final approval of the technical features.
Please remember to focus on the quality of review: correct tagging of articles and nottagbombing are important. Searching for potential copyright violations is also important, and it can be aided byEarwig's Copyvio Detector, which can be added to your toolbar for ease of use withthis user script.
To keep up with the latest conversation on New Pages Patrol or to ask questions, you can go toWikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and add it to your watchlist.

If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, gohere.TonyBallioni (talk)20:33, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Your draft article,Draft:Playing History

Hello, DatGuy. It has been over six months since you last edited theArticles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Playing History".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopediamainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simplyedit the submission and remove the{{db-afc}} or{{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions atthis link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing.Legacypac (talk)18:40, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

ANI regarding DatBot

(centralise discussion in section '#DatBot 6')

Information icon There is currently a discussion atWikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread isDatBot not resizing Non-free images.jd22292(Jalen D. Folf) (talk)19:05, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

The discussion has closed as the bot is not causing any harm, but I would like to know what's going on with DatBot not resizing non-free images? I am aware that several users tried restarting the program in an attempt to get it going again, though there's still concern.jd22292(Jalen D. Folf) (talk)19:38, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

@Jd22292: I'm as keen as you to get this running again - There are 4421 files tagged for reduction. It was stopped after an issue, subsequently we found the issue was with a very bad file showing the wrong pixel size, and not the bot. I tried to re-start the bot (by putting "Run" in theUser:DatBot/NonFreeImageResizer/Run page), but it failed to restart, sadly DatGuy is rather busy and has not edited since 18:05, 18 August 2017. I'm sure he will kick it into life once he returns. I've resorted to to re-startingUser:Theo's_Little_Bot to do the resize - it started well and now it's slowed up (as it did in the past). Knowing that code, I would not be surprised if the problem there was due to the temp files (every image reduced leaves a copy of the reduced image behind in the bot directory) - eventually one runs out of server space, and getting in touch withUser:Theopolisme is not easy - he does not edit much now.Ronhjones ^(Talk)16:30, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-35

Latesttech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.Translations are available.

Recent changes

Syntax highlighting is now a beta feature on Wikimedia wikis with text written from left to right. It will come to right-to-left wikis later. This beta feature is based onCodeMirror.[27][28]
You will nowget a notification when someone tries to log in to your account and fails. If they try from a device or IP address that have logged in to your account before you will be notified after five failed attempts. You can turn this off or choose to get an email notification in your preferences. You can also turn on to get an email when someone logs in to your account from a new device or IP address.[29]

Problems

Some pages show the errorLua error in mw.wikibase.entity.lua at line 34: The entity data must be a table obtained via mw.wikibase.getEntityObject. This problem happens on pages with aLua module that use Wikidata. This has now been fixed and no new pages will get this problem. You still need to fix pages that were broken before and still show the error message. You can see howon this page.[30]

Changes later this week

You can block users from sending you notifications.[31]
Thenew version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 August. It will be on all wikis from 31 August (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on29 August at 19:00 (UTC). Seehow to join.
You can join the next meeting with the Technical Committee. The topic this week isMigrate to HTML5 section ids. The meeting will be on30 August at 21:00 (UTC). Seehow to join.

Future changes

In the future you will haveglobal preferences. This means you could set something in your preferences to work in the same way on all wikis. You will not be forced to use global preferences. The developers are now asking if editors need exceptions. This is where you want to use global settings on almost all wikis, but have some wikis where you want it to work in a different way. If you want this you need to tell the developers now. You can do so onthe talk page.[32]
New filters for edit review is a beta feature to improve recent changes pages. It will work on watchlists from 5 September.[33]
The jQuery library will be upgraded to version 3 in September 2017. Wikis canask on Phabricator to get it early, so they can help find and solve problems now.

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22:10, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Late?

I ran intothis report, but it turns out the editor had already been blockedtwenty minutes before. Thanks,Drmies (talk)17:39, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

@Drmies: Well, since the bot does not have theabusefilter-view-private right (I believe that's the correct one?) then it can't use the API to find information about the filter hits. That's why it has to use the database, which occasionally has lag spikes, which can be seenhere. I might be able to get it to work if the RfC atWP:EFN is closed as a "yes".Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs17:27, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

@Ferret andKs0stm: See above regarding your pings at AIV. On another note,phab:T175684 is being processed.Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs13:30, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Would it help if your bot had edit filter manager? I mean, obviously it won't be editing any filters, but it would allow it to view private filters.Ks0stm^{(T•C•G•E)} If you reply here, please ping me by using{{re|Ks0stm}} in your reply. 17:13, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

@Ks0stm: I thought that it wouldn't be granted since I don't have EFM (such as with adminbots). Hopefully EFH is more lenient.Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs14:15, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

DatGuy, just so that I know you're aware, it looks like all of your bot's reports are stale (sometimeshours after the editor was blocked or triggered an edit filter).Sro23 (talk)01:17, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

@Sro23,Ks0stm,Ferret, andDrmies: See[34] (not trying to canvass. Just FYI.)Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs14:27, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

@Ks0stm,Drmies, andFerret: I've changed the code to now use the API if there's replag of more than 2 minutes.Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs09:12, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

BAGBot: Your bot request SportsStatsBot

Someone has markedWikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/SportsStatsBot as needing your input. Please visit that page to reply to the requests. Thanks!AnomieBOT ⚡11:42, 31 August 2017 (UTC)To opt out of these notifications, place {{bots|optout=operatorassistanceneeded}} anywhere on this page.

How do I upload a cricket logo?

Hi DatGuy, I see you uploaded logos for Hampshire and Northants cricket teams and hope you can help me. I have redrawn a SVG logo for the Bloem City Blazers cricket team. I uploaded the SVG file here, but it was soon deleted:commons:File:Bloem_City_Blazers_logo.svg I guess my question is what is the ideal method to upload my SVG file I drew for this Wikipedia page:Bloem_City_Blazers. What are the requirements to upload logos for sports teams without infringing on copyright? Any advice would be appreciated as I want to upload more SVG files for other cricket teams. Regards (Vectorebus (talk)16:08, 2 September 2017 (UTC))

@Vectorebus: You have asked basically the same question atWikipedia:SVG help#SVG logo for Bloem City Blazers andUser talk:Jovianeye#How do I upload SVG cricket logo?, this goes againstWP:MULTI. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk)18:37, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

YourGA nomination ofSão Tomé and Príncipe at the 2016 Summer Olympics

The articleSão Tomé and Príncipe at the 2016 Summer Olympics you nominated as agood article has passed; seeTalk:São Tomé and Príncipe at the 2016 Summer Olympics for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you cannominate it to appear in Did you know.Message delivered byLegobot, on behalf ofQatarStarsLeague --QatarStarsLeague (talk)02:02, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Pixelated downscaling by your bot

Seems as though we might want to fix the bot or something, as for some reason downscaled images produced by your bot tend to end up looking pixelated. Could you look into this?Blake Gripling (talk)13:36, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

@Blakegripling ph: DatGuy is away, is there any particular image you have seen? I could try a PhotoShop reduction. Reducing any image will always lower the resolution, some images reduce better than others. DatBotwas (out of action since 27th July), I believe, using Python Imaging Library (PIL) with the reduction type set to "antialias" - which should give the best reduction. When DatBot comes back it should be using the more updatedPillow module, but I'm using that manually and not noticed much difference.Ronhjones ^(Talk)21:27, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-36

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Tech News

We are asking Tech News readers five questions to make the newsletter better.You can answer the questions here. We are grateful for every reply we get.

Recent changes

TheRevisionSlider user interface has changed. You can now select revisions by clicking on the bars. You can move the blue knob past the yellow one and the yellow one will move along, and the other way around.[35][36]

Problems

Some users have problems loading very large watchlists. It is working better than earlier but the problem has not been solved. The developers are working on fixing it. Until it has been fixed you can turn on "Expand watchlist to show all changes, not just the most recent" in your preferences and see if it helps.[37]

Changes later this week

New filters for edit review is a beta feature to improve recent changes pages. It will work on watchlists from 5 September.[38]
Thenew version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 September. It will be on all wikis from 7 September (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on5 September at 19:00 (UTC). Seehow to join.
You can see a presentation about and discuss the newTechnical Committee on5 September at 17:30 (UTC). There will be a presentation onYouTube and a discussion in#wikimedia-office onFreenode. You can use theweb chat.[39]

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22:15, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

São Tomé and Príncipe at the 2016 Summer Olympics has been nominated for Did You Know

Hello, DatGuy.São Tomé and Príncipe at the 2016 Summer Olympics, an article you either created or to which you significantly contributed,has been nominated to appear on Wikipedia'sMain Page as part ofDid you know. You can see the hook and the discussionhere. You are welcome to participate! Thank you.APersonBot (talk!)12:01, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-37

Latesttech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.Translations are available.

Recent changes

You can get anotification when a page you created is connected to a Wikidata item. You can choose to get these notifications in your preferences. Some wikis already had this option. It is now available on all wikis.[40]
TheNewsletter extension is now on mediawiki.org. The newsletter extension is for newsletters where you can subscribe by getting a notification when a new issue has been published. It will come to more wikis later.[41]
TheLinter extension helps you find technical errors in articles. There is now a new high-priority category:tidy-whitespace-bug. This usually affects templates with horizontal lists. You can read moreabout using Linter and theTidy whitespace bug.[42]

Problems

Tech News2017/36 reported aboutnew filters for edit review coming to watchlists. This was planned to happen last week. It will happen next week instead.[43]

Changes later this week

Thenew version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 September. It will be on all wikis from 14 September (calendar).
OOjs UI will be updated. This could affect some icons. You canread more about the changes.

Meetings

You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on13 September at 15:00 (UTC). Seehow to join.
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on12 September at 19:00 (UTC). Seehow to join.

Future changes

You can't useOCG to create PDFs after 1 October. This is because of technical problems. You can useElectron instead. Most PDFs are already created with Electron. Electron will get missing features before 1 October. You can create books but they will not have all planned features until November or December. You canread more on mediawiki.org.
New filters for edit review are available now on recent changes as a beta feature.Some of those filters and other features will be deployed as default features in the coming weeks. Users will be able to opt out in their preferences.[44]

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19:16, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-38

Latesttech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.Translations are available.

Recent changes

You can now see contributions from anIP range atSpecial:Contributions. Before you could only see contributions from singleIP addresses. Some older contributions from IP ranges could be missing at first because it will take some time to add them.[45][46]
Flow has been re-scoped to becomeStructured Discussions and the developmenthas restarted. Phabricator projects and repositories have been renamed.[47]

Changes later this week

Thenew version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 September. It will be on all wikis from 21 September (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on19 September at 18:30 (UTC). Seehow to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on20 September at 15:00 (UTC). Seehow to join.

Future changes

We arereplacing Tidy on Wikimedia wikis. Editors need to fix pages that could break. You can read thesimplified instructions for editors. Some wikis have already switched. If your wiki would like to switch to the new format now,you can file a task.

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15:32, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello DatGuy/Archives/2017, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

The new page backlog is currently at14304 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a day.
Currently there are532 pages in the backlog that were created by non-autoconfirmed users beforeWP:ACTRIAL. The NPP project is undertaking a drive to clear these pages from the backlog before they hit the 90 day Google index point. Please consider reviewing a few today!

Technology update:

The Wikimedia Foundation is currently working on creating a new filter forpage curation that will allow new page patrollers to filter by extended confirmed status. For more information see:T175225

General project update:

On 14 September 2017 the English Wikipedia beganthe autoconfirmed article creation trial. For a six month period, creation of articles in the mainspace of the English Wikipedia will be restricted to users withautoconfirmed status. New users who attempt article creation will now be redirected toa newly designed landing page.
Before clicking on a reference or external link while reviewing a page, please be careful that the site looks trustworthy. If you have a question about the safety of clicking on a link, it is better not to click on it.
To keep up with the latest conversation on New Pages Patrol or to ask questions, you can go toWikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and add it to your watchlist.

If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, gohere.TonyBallioni (talk)02:16, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

DatBot reducing size

It looks to me like DatBot isnot reducing sizes. Is it shutoff at the moment?Elisfkc (talk)15:20, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

User:Elisfkc, see#ANI regarding DatBot above and other sections on this talk page. --Stefan2 (talk)19:35, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Reporting stale IPs

DatBot does it too much these days. DatBot should not report the following IPs toWP:AIV:
1) the IP has an overall history of less than 1 hour (edits and/or filter attempts)
AND
2) last IP action occurred >3 h ago.
This is a basic definition of a "stale IP", but the numbers 1 h and 3 h are just my spontaneous estimate, they could be amended. Thanks.Materialscientist (talk)04:59, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

@Materialscientist: I've changed the code to now use the API if there's replag of more than 2 minutes.Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs09:12, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK for São Tomé and Príncipe at the 2016 Summer Olympics

On25 September 2017,Did you know was updated with a fact from the articleSão Tomé and Príncipe at the 2016 Summer Olympics, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was... that acanoeist bore theSão Tomé and Príncipe flag at the opening ceremony of the 2016 Summer Olympics, but at the closing ceremony it was carried by an unnamed volunteer? The nomination discussion and review may be seen atTemplate:Did you know nominations/São Tomé and Príncipe at the 2016 Summer Olympics. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page(here's how,São Tomé and Príncipe at the 2016 Summer Olympics), and it may be added tothe statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on theDid you know talk page.

Alex Shih ^Talk 00:02, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-39

Latesttech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.Translations are available.

Recent changes

Wikitextsyntax highlighting is a beta feature on Wikimedia wikis with text written from left to right. This beta feature is based onCodeMirror. You can now search through the entire article withCTRL+F orcmd+F when you edit. Before it just searched through a part of the article. The developers are also fixing a couple of other bugs.[48][49]
Administrators on wikis that useStructured Discussions as a beta feature or by default can nowcreate and move Structured Discussions boards. Structured Discussions was previously called Flow.[50]

Changes later this week

You nowget a notification when someone tries to log in to your account and fails. If they try from a device or IP address that have logged in to your account before you will be notified after five failed attempts. For security reasons you will soon get an email by default when someone tries to log in to your account and when someone logs in to your account from a new device or IP address. This can be turned off in your preferences.[51]
Users with extremely old browsers (for example Netscape 2–4, released from 1995–1997) which do not support Unicode will no longer be able to edit. They should try to install a new browser.[52]
Thenew version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 September. It will be on all wikis from 28 September. (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on27 September at 15:00 (UTC). Seehow to join.

Future changes

The Wikimedia FoundationReaders department has proposed changing the mobile website. You canread more on mediawiki.org. This would be a big change.
You can't useOCG to create PDFs after 1 October. This is because of technical problems. You can still create PDFs.Tech News 2017/37 said the function to create PDFs from books would still work. It is now clear it will not work for the next few months. The developers are working on fixing this. You canread more on mediawiki.org.

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16:00, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

YGM

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—xaosflux^Talk22:00, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: Replied twice, first one had a typo that I realised only after clicking send.Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs05:43, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

@DatGuy: replied. —xaosflux^Talk13:06, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: replied again. Not sure if you usually check your email, so just pinging you to make sure.Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs14:32, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Replied. I do not monitor that box normally. —xaosflux^Talk15:29, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

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