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Responding to your questionshere, I have limited experience with AfC, but here's my take.
It is true that AfC is a volunteer project, and that nobody is required to review specific articles. But the same is true for Wikipedia itself. Frequent AfC reviewers are refusing to 'look the other way' for the same reasons that other Wikipedia editors refuse to look the other way whenever they notice inapropriate content added to the encyclopedia.
AfC has a recurring issue with backlogs. FloridaArmy, it is claimed, submits enough bad articles to single-handedly contribute to this backlog. It's not just the articles per day, but that the articles are often resubmitted over and over again with little change, and that his overall article acceptance rate is low. There seem to have beenvery similar issues two years ago with new articles and AfD. The requirement to go through AfC was intended to help FloridaArmy learn what constitutes an acceptable article, but it seems to only have shifted the disruption from AfD to AfC.
As JzG points out, this pattern of behavior has all the hallmarks of someone attempting to appropriate the furor over recent events for personal gains, in order to have these restrictions lifted. But FloridaArmy doesn't seem to realize that fighting the restrictions by causing more disruption won't get them lifted, and his frustration may be causing him topick fights in order to to avoid having to take responsibility. I've tried talking him out of it, but he's too far gone.71.234.210.113 (talk)16:23, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The main point of your message for me is, "Frequent AfC reviewers are refusing to 'look the other way' for the same reasons that other Wikipedia editors refuse to look the other way whenever they notice inapropriate content added to the encyclopedia."

It doesn't seem like it would be looking the other way because either another reviewer would probably decline a deficient article submission or it wouldn't be reviewed. In either case it wouldn't go into Wikipedia, unlike the example you gave of adding content to Wikipedia.Bob K31416 (talk)18:58, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Remember thatFloridaArmy's original complaint was that his AfC submissions weren't being reviewed. So far,nobody has spoken up in defense of his many rejected drafts. If anyone was willing to put up with his submissions, he wouldn't have been able to make his original complaint. Intentionally allowing his drafts to languish indefinitely would cause permanent backlogs and provoke more of the same complaints. Note also that the rationale given atthe original AN/I case was that FloridaArmy was to be restricted to AfC until "they understand our inclusion criteria and are able to work to it." The fact that any inappropriate content would be contained within AfC and away from the mainspace was just a bonus. Editors atthe current AN/I case are claiming that FloridaArmy's many inappropriate submissions and resubmissions aredisruptive, and disruptive editing isn't allowed anywhere, even at AfC.71.234.210.113 (talk)05:02, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Re "Remember thatFloridaArmy's original complaint was that his AfC submissions weren't being reviewed."

That doesn't seem to be FloridaArmy's original complaint. Those submissions were reviewed and declined at that time. Am I missing something?Bob K31416 (talk)05:45, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Quite right, it would be more accurate to say that their original complaint was that their article's weren't beingaccepted. The rest of my comment still stands. Allowing them to continue submitting drafts, only for them to be ignored or rejected, would cause permanent backlogs and provoke more of the same complaints.71.234.210.113 (talk)05:49, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would probably work out. Reviewers would still review the FloridaArmy submissions that are worthwhile, and some editors would review some of FA's submissions that are not so much. Also, FA may realize that it's not worth the effort to submit deficient articles that probably won't get reviewed. Anyhow, I don't have strong feelings about any of this and I'm just trying to help.Bob K31416 (talk)06:11, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, I see you found a bigger version of the photo. I'm wondering why you added it to en.wp rather than commons? That article you found it in is interesting, too.  :) -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥}23:16, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It looked easier. What are your thoughts about it?Bob K31416 (talk)01:22, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, my only thought was that it could be added to Wikidata / other wiki more easily from Commons. But given the unclear claim (status unassessed) made at LoC itself, I was hesitant. (I also didn't want to seem to be stealing your work.) It's good to see you back, by the way. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥}16:33, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to add it when you would like to.Bob K31416 (talk)16:59, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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	A little something to acknowledgeyour edit. It is refreshing to collaborate with an editor who understandsWP:NPOV, and is able to contribute in a neutral, dispassionate way that still includes all relevant views. Your collaborative efforts are greatly appreciated.AtsmeTalk📧11:10, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't sign your vote in the survey on the Reagan talk page[1]. Regards.Rja13ww33 (talk)21:24, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Don't know how I did that!Koncorde (talk)19:58, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For reference[2].Bob K31416 (talk)23:50, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I can only apologise again for the latest gaffe. I am not doing it intentionally, and not even sure how it is happening other than when editing using my mobile phone.Koncorde (talk)18:43, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For reference[3][4].Bob K31416 (talk)21:21, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Scribd is not a reliable source, especially forWP:BLP content.[5] -MrX 🖋11:36, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Bob K31416: Hey bob, I saw that you sent me a helpful google search in the george floyd conversation on the tox report. In order to include that, I need supporters, if you would show your support, to either side, supporting or not supporting, I'd be grateful. There's a guy called Crescent77 who already showed his support so i suppose you could put it there. thanks,JazzClam (talk)09:54, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be looking over there and we'll see.Bob K31416 (talk)12:24, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Thank you for taking the time to read and revert the material that was deleted for trolling on the talk page of the WP shooting of breonna taylor. I am a longtime anon IP editor and too frequently face contempt for it. It was very nice and extremely thorough of you without solicitation to read the material and revert it.— Precedingunsigned comment added by2601:46:C801:B1F0:18A0:C2:6FF0:31DF (talk)18:27, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome.Bob K31416 (talk)01:20, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks. Coincidentally I was thinking how it was nice to work with you.Bob K31416 (talk)14:56, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

... for what you said to Flyer22 --Gerda Arendt (talk)10:05, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I hadn't interacted with her for years but once in a while I would remember how I liked her.Bob K31416 (talk)16:28, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted this changehttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Killing_of_Ma%27Khia_Bryant&diff=prev&oldid=1021600308 as it is clearly supported by the documentation/video. It does not say whether such compliance was reasonable nor that she even heard the officer, just that she did not comply. If you disagree, let's talk.Buffs (talk)19:20, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Thanks for coming over. The "get down"s didn't seem like orders to Bryant but orders to the woman in pink so that she wouldn't get shot.Bob K31416 (talk)20:52, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Crump was Floyd's family attorney; my mistake. Thanks for the catch.Buffs (talk)15:56, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome.Bob K31416 (talk)00:16, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't agree more with you. It's not an average, but a probability.— Precedingunsigned comment added byKoitus~nlwiki (talk •contribs)22:15, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What diff of mine are you referring to?Bob K31416 (talk)19:25, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Pauli exclusion principle has nothing to do with interactions. Say, there is a strong Coulomb interaction between the two 1s electrons in the ground state of He, which doesn't prevent the formation of the singlet state in full accordance with the Pauli principle. But in fact, it's not related to my point. How do you call statistics of interacting fermions? "Approximately F-D"? Let's not invent new definitions. F-D statistics is about fermions. B-E statistics is about bosons. The numerical results are sensitive to the model assumed, of course (interacting or not interacting particles, etc).Evgeny (talk)16:33, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I removed negligible mutual interaction from the subject sentence[6] and I'll take awhile to think about it. Thanks.Bob K31416 (talk)18:46, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. If/when you finally agree, there are similar statements in the B-E and M-B statistics articles that I believe should be modified, too, for consistency.Evgeny (talk)21:27, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Evgeny, Sorry to keep you hanging for so long but there are some aspects that are unclear for me. Here's some of my preliminary thoughts.

Let me start by giving my definitions of the term single particle state. (I didn't find any good ones in the literature.) One definition would be a state that is normalized to 1. Another is the state of a single particle system.

You mentioned the singlet state of helium. That's a two-particle state. It originates from using hydrogenic single particle states to start with, i.e. non-interacting electrons, and then the Pauli exclusion principle (PEP) is applied so that the electrons have opposite spin. The e-e interaction is then introduced to obtain 2-particle states and energies. Although the PEP is applied to the original non-interacting electrons in single particle states, it's not clear to me how the PEP can be used for the case of 2-electron states of interacting electrons since obviously more than one electron occupies the 2-electron state. It apparently works by considering the 2-electron state to be comprised of single particle states of non-interacting electrons, which isn't true if the significant e-e interaction is taken into account. Hence this is unclear to me. Anyhow, these are preliminary thoughts and I'm not sure if I will have anything more to say, although I'll think about it now and then.Bob K31416 (talk)14:12, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"It apparently works by considering the 2-electron state to be comprised of single particle states of non-interacting electrons, which isn't true if the significant e-e interaction is taken into account." Well, there are no "single particle" states in nature.Any state of N identical fermions is antisymmetric (seeSlater determinant), interaction is irrelevant. (Strictly speaking, one must use a single fully antisymmetric W.F. to describe all electrons in the Universe.) BTW, in the case of helium, the interaction is by no means small: assuming non-interacting electrons, the ground-state energy would differ by ~40%. I guess you are confused by construction of multi-particle state using single-particle W.F.'s as the basis. It's wrong to think of the combined state as consisting of the basis states. It's just a convenient mathematical notation—the convenience is in using the perturbation theory when the interaction is small. Again, the only physically relevant bound on the multi-fermion state is that its phase flips when any two particles are swapped. From this follows PEP (and vice versa).Evgeny (talk)20:47, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Getting back to the question of whether FD statistics requires negligible mutual interaction between particles, it apparently doesn't when the PEP is expressed in terms of the requirement of anti-symmetry. So the removal of the subject phrase re negligible mutual interaction appears to be correct. Also, it looks like the same can be said for BE statistics when its situation is expressed in terms of the requirement of a symmetrical wave function with respect to interchange of any two particles.Bob K31416 (talk)09:39, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Evgeny, Although FD statistics and BE statistics may not require negligible mutual interaction, the FD distribution and BE distribution do. I mention this because the BE Statistics article currently treats the BE distribution and BE statistics as meaning the same thing, unlike the FD Statistics article, which treats the FD distribution as a result of FD statistics for the case of negligible mutual interaction.Bob K31416 (talk)19:05, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree, the BE article needs a clarification.Evgeny (talk)21:54, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand, what's the problem with my changes? I explained the reasons in the edit summaries. Do you believe the new version is worse (in which respect)?Evgeny (talk)15:05, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I moved the discussion to the article talk page.Bob K31416 (talk)18:02, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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They never bring up anything specific, or any reliable sources. It is not constructive. But go ahead, engage in a dialogue if you wish. – Muboshgu (talk)00:09, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply] Thanks. I was going to make a comment but the IP's post was removed again. Their geolocate appears to be a school, so they may just be a student, like they say. Not very nice treatment in that case. Here's what I was going to say: There does seem to be a lot of Trump bashing. One of the problems with that, is it ironically obscures his actual faults. Some people reading this article may simply put it down as misleading and not useful in forming an opinion about Trump, and consider it like an attack campaign ad.Bob K31416 (talk)00:32, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply] For reference[21]Bob K31416 (talk)14:53, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply] Trump III [edit] do not reinstate a pointless troll topic begun by an obvious sock or SPA, please.ValarianB (talk)15:34, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply] Jordan LaQuey, Thanks for your comment and feel free to make further comments here or elsewhere on Wikipedia, if you like.Really? You thought that reopening that section and leaving that comment was helpful? – Muboshgu (talk)15:44, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply] I think it's a legitimate discussion and should not be suppressed.Bob K31416 (talk)16:02, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply] The discussion has taken place innumerable times, normally starting with an IP with no prior posts who does not understandWP:FALSEBALANCE orWP:OTHERCONTENT and resulting in nothing but wasted editor time.O3000, Ret. (talk)16:23, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply] You're entitled to your opinion, but so are other editors. If you think a discussion is a waste of time, there's a simple solution for you. Don't participate. And I think other editors should have the right to decide whether or not to participate for themselves.Bob K31416 (talk)16:34, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply] Stating that discussion was suppressed is a borderlineWP:PA. The discussion has taken place over and over.O3000, Ret. 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There is absolutely no justification for spending editor time responding to the same uninformed complaints over and over again, never with any change to the article. I get that you think the article is biased, andthe response page applies equally to you. Any user, including you, is welcome to suggest a specific, policy-based improvement to any part of the article. That initiates a discussion which may yield a consensus for a change to the article. But general complaints about bias are not useful. SPECIFICOarchived the thread 11 hours early, in direct violation of current consensus #13, despite clear guidance in the close statement, thereby greatly reducing the amount of time for the OP to see the reply. Both of your actions could be seen as disruptive, but perhaps SPECIFICO might not have done that if you had just left it alone. ―Mandruss ☎20:03, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply] I think my actions were quite good. Editors there shouldn't be afraid of feedback about the article. As I wrote, editors aren't required to respond. BTW, what percentage of readers would you guess feel the same way as that editor?Bob K31416 (talk)20:36, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply] I don't know, maybe roughly the same as the percentage of Trump supporters who don't understand Wikipedia policies? The point is that it's an irrelevant question. We are governed by our policies, not by popular vote. And this has exactly nothing to do with editors being "afraid of feedback". ―Mandruss ☎20:44, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply] I think it may. Otherwise, they would just ignore the comment if they simply didn't like it.Bob K31416 (talk)21:11, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply] There is nothing to fear from uninformed readers. It just wastes editor time, period. they would just ignore the comment if they simply didn't like it. Not so much. Many editors can't resist replying, particularly those who haven't been around to witness the history at that article. And then we're off and running with yet another pointless exercise in futility. That's why we close after the first reply. ―Mandruss ☎21:17, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply] As far as I know, there is no policy or guideline that supports preemptive closing. If you think there should be, you might suggest that at the appropriate page.Bob K31416 (talk)21:34, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply] Policy and common practice grant a certain amount of discretion to local editors. Otherwise policy would have to be twice as large. For example, there is no policy supporting the current consensus list, but it was implemented and survives because a majority of editors have thought it's a good idea. Among the article's editors, you are clearly in a small minority (minority of 1?) on this issue, and you have been consistently throughout your participation there. ―Mandruss ☎21:44, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply] After that, I'll call the discussion with you ended for me.Bob K31416 (talk)22:04, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-specific bias claims are never useful or constructive; article bias is not a popular vote. When they show some respect, #61 provides for the standard response and 24 hours to see that. When they are openly insulting to Wikipedia and its volunteers, they don't deserve that much consideration. While this doesn't meet the strict definition of trolling, please don't perceive it as some kind of legitimate "freedom of speech" dissent. ―Mandruss ☎18:24, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks but I think comments like that from time to time are a good reality check of how some readers view the article. One thing to consider regarding the credibility of the article, and media in general, is that with all the anti-Trump information presented, Trump is still leading in polls. Seems like the majority of people take with a grain of salt the presentation in the media. People may not like misrepresentations made by politicians, but they may think even worse about misrepresentations made in the media and this article because they feel their trust has been betrayed.Bob K31416 (talk)13:28, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine, but article talk pages are not for discussion of such matters. You can start atWP:NOTFORUM, which is Wikipedia policy. The scope of your musings is far greater than the Trump article, which automatically disqualifies them at the ATP. Take it to Village Pump if you like. ―Mandruss ☎04:24, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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You were right. "Verifiability, not truth" is Orwellian.

Another editorcorrected you by saying "the slogan isn't verifiability is truth, it's verifiability not truth". Suggesting that, because the "not truth" slogan isn't syntactically identical to The Party's slogans, you didn't have a point.

Predictably, the slogan "verifiability is truth" is now used unironically on Wikipedia. I wrote an essay recently in which I said "war is peace, freedom is slavery, and verifiability is truth". I was doing some research on the history of the re-definition of truth on Wikipedia, and I was stunned to see that someone else had made the observation, all the way back in 2011. Things have gotten a lot weirder since then.Philomathes2357 (talk)07:32, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well that's an oldie. I recall there was an RfC that consisted of hundreds of editors and the closing was plagued with disruption. That was another example of how a group of editors took over a Wikipedia page and it took an action of biblical proportions to make a simple edit that was contrary to the group in power.Bob K31416 (talk)13:56, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you remember where that RfC is found? --Valjean (talk) (PING me)20:51, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Where is any documentation that he said anything racist? He fought many years ago to allow black people and Jewish people into his mar a lago private club when Palm Beach was very selective about allowing these 2 groups of people being allowed in clubs. He has done many positive things for black peoples. Where’s the so called proof of that remark ?Amiestew2468 (talk)01:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Greetings Bob K31416. I believe you helped greatly expand and improveThomas Cardozo and I was wondering if you could help me withHenry E. Hayne and related subjects. As best I can tell his father was James Hayne and he had a brotherJames N. Hayne who served in the state legislature as well asCharles D. Hayne who also served in the state legislature. I'd like to know more about the father. Is Henry Hayne Crum and the Crum family related in some way? I'm also wondering about the mother and if James Hayne the father had a white wife? Complicated history. Seems like some weird blank areas for otherwise prominent and influential figures. Thanks for any help you or your page watchers xan help with! The findagrave page for Henry andCharles D. Hayne are interesting. One of them I think has a name listing of family members from the census? I saw it noted that there are alternative spellings of his surname (Haynes and Haines for example). I hope all is well. Happy 2025 and beyond.FloridaArmy (talk)02:25, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It was a pleasant surprise to find that you had posted on my talk page. I have pleasant memories of collaborating with you on the Cardozo article. I looked at the Hayne article and I thought it was a good read. His life seemed to have some parallels with Cardozo. I tried some internet searches for more information but so far I didn't find any answers to your questions. I may look at it again from time to time. Regards,Bob K31416 (talk)16:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

​ Re Henry Hayne Crum (1914–2000), I found some connection between Hayne and a Crum at[27]. "Besides Henry Hayne, there were many more Black men to enroll at Carolina during Reconstruction. ... Other Black alumni from that era include ... William D. Crum, who became a physician and government-appointed collector for the port of Charleston."Bob K31416 (talk)17:46, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Space4Time3 appears to be reverting against Talk page consensus for trimming the COVID section of the Donald Trump article. There were three of us in agreement about the trimmed section which was added to the article yesterday, and Space4Time3 has declined to participate on the Talk page discussion to which he was pinged and has decided to revert against consensus here:[28]. Could you look at this?ErnestKrause (talk)15:29, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]