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Google Translate renders this as follows. Curious...Andrew🐉(talk)19:48, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The bee has proven it by itself. The research results and the fact that people are still young don't provide a solid reason. Experience has no benefit. And closeness causes too much impact and leads to serious losses. Being rich? Is that the reason people focus on this point? The goal is too weak. Everything feels exhausted inside but still serves no purpose.64.158.132.206 (talk)19:11, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The bee has been able to confirm the identity of the bee because of the results of the study. Each person of any age has a reason. He experiences a lack of energy and closeness causes an overabundance of the body and causes Is there a serious loss of wealth? Is it possible for people to focus on this point? The goal is too soft. Every taste is delicious but there's no reason for it.

@Andrew Davidson hi, I sent you an email about a day ago, just wanted to send a reminder here again. Thank you so much for your time! Looking forward to hear from you, and have a great weekend!Phoebezz22 (talk)18:34, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I saw the email, thanks, and will reply directly.Andrew🐉(talk)19:14, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds great, Thank you so much! Will wait for your response then =)Phoebezz22 (talk)22:18, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Having looked, I'm not sure I'm ready for an interview yet. My activity is currently experimental and today's recent update is a typical example. SeeWikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Request_for_closure where I tried usingGemini to summarise a discussion.Andrew🐉(talk)23:47, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrew Davidson Thank you for the thoughtful reply, I really appreciate it! I also took a look at the examples you provided, and I still believe your interactions in such discussions with examples of LLM outputs will provide very valuable insights - and in fact, I think you'll provide a very interesting perspective. Please let me know if you are interested in participating! And if you don't mind, we can also change to emails. Have a great weekend =)Phoebezz22 (talk)02:31, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Andrew Davidson! In due deference to your seniority, you should have been the first editor I bothered in my quest for info, but it has only just occurred to me to check who created the article on theBlack Middens. To cut a long story short, I'm trying to tie up a couple of loose ends I've come across regarding theSpanish Battery Rocks, at the estuary of the River Tyne, as an oft-mentioned hazard to shipping in the area. However, I have come up against a series of doubts which render that redlink (or simply a section at another article, a non-starter, at least for the moment. Ihave already bothered another user,Barabbas1312 who, though kindly tolerant of my imposition has, so far, been unable to shed further light on the matter at hand, beyond confirming that the "name doesn't appear to be used on the relevant Admiralty chart, though the battery itself is marked".

Not knowing the area at all, and as sources are few and far between, one of my main doubts is whether said rocks refer to "your" Black Middens or to the rocks on other side of the headland, where the actual artillery battery was located. If the former, since that article already exists, it might just be a matter of adding/finding a couple of sources that link the two sites, or not, as the case may be. Thanks for your time and, as I commented to Barabbas1312, please don't feel obliged to do anything regarding this matter. Happy Editing!Technopat (talk)17:08, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I started theBlack Middens as a spinoff from theLights of North Shields.

This page about the Spanish Battery shows a map derived from Google. This labels the Black Middens and other specific features fairly clearly and also shows the coastal rocks. My impression is that the Black Middens usually means the reef of rock in the channel where the name label is. The rocks which form the shore around the headland seem to be a more general coastal feature and don't have particular names. So, the rocky shore near to the battery might be considered distinct but I doubt that it warrants a separate article.

We could use an article about the battery as the articleTynemouth Priory and Castle doesn't mention it. We could also use an article about theTynemouth Volunteer Life Brigade Watch House which was built there specifically because shipwrecks were common. I'll make a start on that now.

A person who might be able to help isOjsyork who is active in the RNLI andRNLI task force here.

Andrew🐉(talk)18:01, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrew Davidson@Technopat

Sorry chaps, can't help. I can find histories of Lifeboat Stations, but any ref. to wreck locations etc I just assume they're correct, and add a link if an article exists.

All the RNLI stations are now done, but I'm still on withList of former RNLI stations, whilst fending off the nonsense created by one other member of the RNLI group!

And then there are RNLI Fleet pages to update constantly - I'm unlikely to get to Volunteer Rocket Brigades, sorry.Ojsyork (talk)18:55, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings All! Many thanks for your prompt replies. As this is your talk page, Andrew Davidson, I hope you don't mind that I respond here also toOjsyork so as not to have too many loose ends lying around. Yes, regarding that Spanish Battery link, thanks, I have that one and I agree with you regarding the specific reef versus the rocks under the battery and yes, the Watch House merits an article, so if you're happy to do that, great! Look forward to checking it out!

Regrading the RNLI, Ojsyork, I have just started using itsTynemouth's Station history page as a reference to pages on theCategory:Lists of shipwrecks by year. Hope you manage to fend off the nonsense-peddler. In the absence of 10-foot bargepoles, boathooks are quite effective, as are sculls... (I once had the privilege of seeing aThames waterman —and ex-British commando— smack a drunken idiot who had fallen into the Thames on the dodgy ebb tide over the head with a scull so as to stun him and stop him from capsizing the skiff we had gone to rescue him in. One of the highlights of my youth! Sorry, off on one of me tangents... --Technopat (talk)21:25, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The redirectLunchtime O'Booze has been listed atredirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets theredirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect atWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 April 17 § Lunchtime O'Booze until a consensus is reached.1234qwer1234qwer402:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I saw the banner on your user page about being a deletion patroller. I wonder if you have any views on the current deletion discussion forBook of the Week atWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Book of the Week.Snowman (talk)23:01, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’m interested in such radio topics and will see how I can help. Am busy today so more later…Andrew🐉(talk)12:07, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I found a good detailed source which is visible to me atGoogle Books so you may be able to read it there too. I have made a variety of other smaller edits and will do more as and when more occur to me.

We ought to start an article about Di Speirs using sources such asthis.

And, if you're interested in radio please check out theList of longest-running radio programmes. We should add aBook at Bedtime to that as it's older than the Archers though it did have a break of three years, it seems.

Andrew🐉(talk)20:03, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have been thinking about an article for Di Speirs too. I am very much a part-time editor, though. Thanks for your work on theBook of the Week article. The delete discussion has been closed with no overall discussion, so the article is retained.Snowman (talk)09:17, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that Eddie891 had noticed the book that I added as a source and was expecting this to produce a no-consensus result. That's good enough so we can move on to Speirs now. Some people don't like stubs but I'm quite keen on them. The way to get a job done is to start it...Andrew🐉(talk)09:25, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I see that this BBC Radio show has been turned into a redirect (effectively deleted) following a merge discussion earlier this year. I would like to restore this article. Do you know how to go about this?Snowman (talk)10:28, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the process of editing a redirect is described atWP:EDRED. I don't recall ever listening to that programme and am not seeing many sources for it but will put it on my watchlist and see what you can do with it.Andrew🐉(talk)07:12, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have listened to the radio show many times. It was redirected following a deletion discussion. I think there has to be a discussion on the talk page before the page can be restored. I have started a discussion on the talk page.Snowman (talk)09:16, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On3 July 2025,Did you know was updated with a fact from the articleStuart Stanton (surgeon), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was... that surgeonStuart Stanton popularisedan operation for stress incontinence? The nomination discussion and review may be seen atTemplate:Did you know nominations/Stuart Stanton (surgeon). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page(here's how,Stuart Stanton (surgeon)), and the hook may be added tothe statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on theDid you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk)00:03, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On 17 July 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleFauja Singh, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Black Kite (talk)14:24, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On 21 July 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleConnie Francis, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Schwede6619:05, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

story ·music ·places

Thank you for your efforts forRobert Lewis Baker! --Gerda Arendt (talk)10:47, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Gardening and Wikipedia have some similarity, I reckon – activities like labelling, planting, pruning, seeding, weeding and so forth are common to both and the results can be equally attractive and rewarding.Andrew🐉(talk)11:09, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nice analogy! -Béatrice Uria-Monzon andher story,Julia Hagen and herno story --Gerda Arendt (talk)21:04, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

OnBach's day of death, I decorated my user pages in memory, with his music, andmy story ends on "peace". --Gerda Arendt (talk)13:11, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bach seems timeless and eternal now. Myself, I'm rememberingTom Lehrer who died recently (seeITN). His lyrics are witty and his mastery of the piano seemed excellent.Andrew🐉(talk)13:35, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for defending my article suggestion. I cannot comprehend their logic that it's not relevant.77eagle (talk)15:56, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's not based on logic or evidence. PerWP:ITNSIGNIF, "Whether a topic is significant enough for inclusion in ITN is often contentious. ... It is highly subjective whether an event is considered significant enough..." There is some gerrymandering too...Andrew🐉(talk)17:51, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On 11 August 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleBiddy Baxter, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Ad Orientem (talk)20:01, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's weird, you have a similar signature toUser:Jeraxmoira! ~Rafael! (He, him) •talk •guestbook •projects14:57, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

One reason for that is that we are bothWikiDragons.Andrew🐉(talk)15:33, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrew Davidson oh, got it! ~Rafael! (He, him) •talk •guestbook •projects15:34, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are other reasons in my case including:

1. I wanted to have a shorter sig and the sigil is just a single Unicode character
2. The sigil looks like the letter D in Apple's iOS font and so it works as an initial
3. I'm adragon of a different sort too
4. Dragons are cool!

Andrew🐉(talk)09:38, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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^EF⁵17:00, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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On 30 September 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the article2025 Ryder Cup, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Schwede6600:30, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On 30 September 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleGeorge Smoot, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Schwede6600:32, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On 4 October 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleSarah Mullally, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Schwede6603:27, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On 15 October 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleDiane Keaton, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Spencer^T•C05:52, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

HeyAndrew Davidson, Your first edit anniversary on this wikimedia project was 4 days ago. Thank you for your valuable contributions and wishing you many more years of amazing contributions to the Wikimedia community :) -❙❚❚❙❙ GnOeee❚❙❚❙❙✉22:08, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks. What seems even more interesting is that the 20th anniversary of my account's creation is coming up on 15 February 2026. I must ponder how to celebrate it. Checking, I find that it's the Sunday of theLondon Wikimeet so that's a good start.Andrew🐉(talk)17:32, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You uploadedFile:Killiechassie 1862.png in 2014, but I don't quite understand why you marked it as{{keep local}}. The map being over 100 years old, it should be well within PD, and if not it should have been tagged as such. But perhaps there was a good reason that I am oblivious to.

I have gone ahead and marked the file for Commons export as well as updated the license tag inside{{PD-Art}} to{{PD-100}}. If that was in error, please revert my edit and let's discuss the license situation of the file.Rose Abrams (TCL)14:24, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to misunderstand what the template is saying. It is not an obstacle to copying to Commons; it records that "an editor has requested that the local copy be kept too". So, the file may be copied to Commons but the local copy should then be left here.

Reasons for this include:

1. Commons is a different project with different policies. I'm not exactly sure what they are as I don't tend to go there.
2. The file is on my watch list here and I like to keep an eye on material that I have created or uploaded.
3. Having a local copy enables me to annotate or otherwise comment on the content.
4. For more, seeTemplate talk:Keep local

So, I have restored the template which sits fine alongside{{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}}. Ok?

Andrew🐉(talk)14:58, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I see. I don't really know if "it's easy and convenient for me" is a solid reason to keep a local file, but it's not something I will argue. I'd recommend you to consider the arguments set out onWP:WHYCOMMONS for why not to keep a local file, but it's up to you.

But a more important question for you: Is it possible for you to fill in the fields| source = and| author = on the file page? Since you uploaded the file (albeit 11 years ago), you may remember the website/written work/repository where you found the image originally. It's fine if you cannot, I can always attempt to find the data myself by reverse-searching it online. And regardless of who does it, when that info is known and entered I will copy the file to Commons (while keeping the local copy per your request). Thank you!Rose Abrams (TCL)15:47, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's now Done. You can still add details to the local copy if you are able.Rose Abrams (TCL)20:30, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I just read throughWP:WHYCOMMONS and see that it says, "If you want to prevent images uploaded directly to Wikipedia from being deleted locally after being copied to Commons, use the{{Keep local}} tag." So, that's all good then.Andrew🐉(talk)22:31, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Is there a specific reason that you taggedFile:Breaking Rust 2.png with{{keep local}}? I don't see any particular reason for it. I will export the file to Commons later today, but if you can explain why then I'll certainly leave the local copy untouched.Rose Abrams (TCL)12:57, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I usually upload here rather than elsewhere as this is the main project that I work on and I'm not so familiar with other projects. One specific reason to maintain the file here is that I can then keep an eye on it using my watchlist. In this way I was able to observe the subsequent improvements to the license and resolution of the image and then thanked the editors responsible. This is my standard policy and process and seems to work well.Andrew🐉(talk)18:14, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I see. I'm not certain if editor convenience is a good reason to keep a local copy, but I see no consensus about it and don't feel it worth arguing over anyway. So I'll do as planned and make a copy onto Commons while leaving your local copy intact. Have a good day!Rose Abrams (TCL)20:47, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On 18 October 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleBaek Se-hee, which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Andrew🐉(talk)22:39, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please review thistemplate's guideline as it is not for newly created articles. -FlightTime(open channel)18:07, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• That guidance is not sensible as a subject of this sort will naturally attract attention once the article is created. Already other editors have rushed in and they now number seven and counting. The reader should naturally be advised that the topic is tentative until its stability becomes clear.Andrew🐉(talk)19:28, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless,WP:BLP1E -FlightTime(open channel)20:45, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are three conditions forWP:BLP1E. None are applicable inthis case.

Meanwhile the editor count is now in double figures. And another editor has thought to thank me for getting it started. What afine fellow!

Andrew🐉(talk)22:45, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes - I was frankly astonished to see that we had not already had an article. Her book has been a bestseller for several years.No Swan So Fine (talk)05:13, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Checking after 12 days, the stats are now 32 editors; 228,569 pageviews.Andrew🐉(talk)12:04, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I linked this term inBaek Se-hee. It was a red link, I redirected it toPsychotherapy, but I am not an expert in this terminology - you may want to double check this._{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here}11:53, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine, thanks. I thought about linking it but the general concept seemed fairly familiar and I wasn't sure of the exact methodology.

Myself, I bought sometteokbokki today and will be trying that therapy later!Andrew🐉(talk)15:43, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good stuff. Did you know I've been living in Korea for a decade now? :) Planning to eat somesundae today for dinner :)_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here}07:13, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I was aware of that. Did you know that I live the part of London that has the largest Polish community perPoles in the United Kingdom? And so, for example, I started the articlePOSK.Andrew🐉(talk)08:18, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Small world. I wonder if thePolish Library in London has a separate stand-alone notability. AlsoPolish Veterans Association. I see both mentioned occasionally in sources... for now I'll redirec them there._{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here}01:05, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On 23 October 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleYang Chen-Ning, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page. —Bagumba (talk)07:17, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Whack!

You've beenwhacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

TheKip^(contribs)02:31, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks but I preferkipper for breakfast(pictured). To see Sybil on the subject, seethis episode...Andrew🐉(talk)10:15, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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On 30 October 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articlePrunella Scales, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Schwede6621:15, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I read the discussion on the Prunella Scales blurb, and had some comments and questions.

I advocate including user metrics when considering ITN items. Why?

• The site exists to serve readers.

• Reader behavior is a key signal of the quality of the experience the site (and its editors) provide.

• Editors are not representative of the broader public.

• Editor judgement on newsworthiness/blurbworthiness is inherently and inescapably subjective.

• Editors should want to know what readers are interested in.

• Editors should want to know how readers engage with content on the homepage to help inform future editorial decisions.

• Editors should want metrics to ensure homepage content is broad and balanced.

• Metrics help counter personal biases by offering objective data that indicates notability.

• Metrics can augment rather than replace editor judgement.

“I was going to jokingly reply to The Kip that viewer statistics would be coming in no time. I didn't think you would actually do it!Rather than annoy almost every other editor with the repeated use of these, why don't you save everyone the trouble and bookmark WP:TOP25 or better yet download Wikipedia Mobile which shows the top viewed articles of the day (on the front page no less). I will seek community discussion at ITN Talk if I see a pointy use of these stats again. Quite silly really (or beyond that now perhaps).”

This comment seemed harsh, dismissive and intended to chill discussion. While this editor may not see the value of considering metrics, is it necessary to effectively censor discussion of them? Is there any recourse? Is it worth trying to have a discussion about how ITN items should can be discussed?Dr Fell (talk)23:03, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Discourse at ITN is uncivil but so it goes. I fancy that some of the editors there are coming around for the second time. TheMills of God grind slow but exceeding fine...

Our readership is obviously important and so you're right that it should be measured. Let's look again at those numbers:

Prunella Scales is doing fine and has had over 400,000 readers in two days now. It's the numbers for some of those other ITN picks that seem lamentable. Clearly just about no-one is reading some of those topics and so we shouldn't be running them.

Andrew🐉(talk)23:40, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Annual readership has beennominated for discussion. You are invited to comment on the discussion atthe entry on the Templates for discussion page.HouseBlaster (talk • he/they)21:11, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the invitation but I am forbidden to join this discussion –audi alteram partem... Not!

For the record, the template is currently in use on 53,123 pages. Here's some examples from the start of the list

sic transit gloria mundi

Andrew🐉(talk)08:57, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I'm following the discussion and see thatMathglot has some constructive suggestions. I'm pinging them to compare notes. Here's some points for their consideration.

1. I'm the original creator of{{annual readership}} and so quite motivated to help develop a successor.
2. I've listed 50 articles which use the template above. I want to get a full list but am not sure of the best way of capturing it.
3. I've archived the currentcode andtalk pages so that we can still refer to them.
4. I've started developing a rough replacement which will give the reader a feel for the readership and link to thepageviews tool. The first draft is attalK:Poles in the United Kingdom. The code is

{{Tmbox|style = border-spacing:4px|image = [[File:Open data small color (vector).svg|32px]]|text = The number of {{plainlink|url=https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=all-time&pages=Poles_in_the_United_Kingdom|name=average daily views}} of this article is about 193.}}

The average has to be inserted manually but should be fairly stable for a mature article. The page views parameters are defaulted to all-time which should give the full stats since records began in 2015. The reader then gets the big picture.

Andrew🐉(talk)13:31, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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On 14 November 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleHorst Panic, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Andrew🐉(talk)09:38, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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