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    To leave me a message, put it at thebottom of my talk page.

    My philosophies on editing(even if I don't follow them)(they'll be good for you, though)

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    It's just Wikipedia

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    Avoid editing wars. When there's been a tussle over some portion of an article, I remind myself that it's just Wikipedia. In my last salvo, I make my best case, and encourage opponents themselves to edit the article to my satisfaction. If they do, I've convinced. If not, the article stands as desired by the community. Many articles havewatchers numbered in dozens. When I've spent my all, I trust other editors to carry on if it's justified.

    What is "not an improvement"?

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    I sometimes use "not an improvement" to explain my reversal. The article is just better the way it was, in my opinion. It's reversing an edit without going into detail as to why, because it's a nuanced argument that I can't fit into theedit summary, or more often because I have no clue how to explain myself.

    It offers other editors the opportunity to bear the burden of deciding. Usually, my "not an improvement" reversals go unchallenged. If any editor reasserts the edit, I accept it as evidence that they've taken an interest in the article, and reflected on whether or not the edit is indeed an improvement.

    I am but a cog

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    When reverting, abold editor is admirable, but I am sometimes a coward. If I'm hesitant that I could justify a revert if called on it, let another editor or inertia deal with it. Wikipedia is crawling with editors, so it might be wise to see if somebody else is bolder and wiser. Also, why should I do all the work? Where an article iswatched by only a few people, I try to be a little bolder in my stewardship. I respect theemergent nature of Wikipedia's power.

    unsourced, unexplained

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    Some think that Wikipedia aims to provide objective truth. It does not (seeWP:Verifiability, not truth). Wikipedia seeks to provide only knowledge that can be traced toreliable sources. Enough information should be given that any doubtful reader can follow a path and be convinced that the knowledge is true.

    Durable edits rely mostly on two things: sources and explanations. If an edit is properly sourced (seeWP:Verifiability), it stands a good chance of staying in Wikipedia. If not, it might achieve persistence by explaining why Wikipedia was changed in this way (seeHelp:Edit summary).

    Without a source or an explanation, any valuable contribution is vulnerable to being wiped away with the explanation "unsourced, unexplained". If it's not a big deal, accept the rejection. If it's sort of a big deal, repeat the edit with an account of where you got the information from -- if not aformal citation, then something in theedit summary. If it isvery important that Wikipedia speak the truth about something, you should be ashamed if you repeat an edit without explanations and sources. The truth will be reverted again, and people won't know.

    Would that we could include you

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    Discussions that refer to policies and guidelines of the Wikipedia community often use "we" and "our". Does this mean "we, the Wikipedia community, but not you"? or "we, the Wikipedia community, including you"? Especially when discussion addresses a user that is new to Wikipedia, the ambiguity takes on a meaning correlated to the perception, in that user's mind and in all readers' minds, of how much of an outsider the user is. Some languages have a simple grammatical way of distinguishing between "we, excluding you" and "we, including you" (clusivity). Would that English had that, too.

    How to have the last word

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    Having the last word is executing an end to an indefinite stream of dialogue. Some forms of discussion (brainstorming, improvisational comedy) use theYes, and... philosophy. How many boring meetings and sketch routines have thereby suffered a dismal, drawn out death? What you want is theNo. method. To capture the last word:

    • Avoid forays into the personal. Concentrate on edits, not editors. Arguments about editors go on and on, and as long the editors are alive, there is no satisfactory last word.
    • Don't askrhetorical questions: questions that make a point, but aren't really meant to be answered. They will be answered. Now you must strive further for the last word.
    • Stick to the point. Be concise. Every expression of your mind's "and another thing" is just more fodder for refutation.
    • Not everything needs to be acknowledged or responded to. Just the things important to the point.
    • Silence is a powerful statement. A powerful tool in bothshunning andrhetoric, it serves comedy, too. Use it when responding to the fool. Let the reader savour the joke. Don't ruin the joke by explaining or elaborating on the foolishness.

    Often, the trick to having the last word is tospeakthrough theforce of theunspoken.

    Snipe hunting the troll

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    Do not call out the troll. You will often look foolish, and it will always be unproductive. Better to ignore an editor’s intentions, and concentrate on the edits themselves. Thetroll, like thesnipe, is a real thing, and like thesnipe hunter, those who call out the troll may look foolish, either by rewarding the troll, or perhaps by falsely accusing the truly and tragically inept. The trollwants you to discover it after a lengthy game. The best trolls tread a thin line betweenare they really that dense? andno, this editor is just trying to disrupt things for attention. Calling out a troll gives it a strange, masochistic reward: being thought useless and annoying with good intentions, then revealed as useless and annoying with bad intentions. I don't claim to understand it. But you can never tell if someone is truly inept, or just a troll. So it's better to concentrate on the edits, no matter how ridiculous it may seem. The end result should be the same.

    Accolades

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    Main page:User talk:Willondon/Accolades

    Willondon has received many accolades, nine in the form of barnstars so far. And if you don't consider that "many", there are also hosts ofthanks received aboutmyher their edits. Willondon is not sure what they mean, butIheCaesar they givesthanks sometimes whenshe they:

    • acknowledge another editor's effort tackling an especially difficult task, or
    • acknowedlge one who resolved an editing conundrum in a way that should satisfy all, or
    • made an edit withan edit summary that really brightenedmy*honk*Caesar's*honk* their day, or
    • responded satisfyingly to a talk page post ofmine*honk*hers*honk*Caesar's *honk*, butIhe*honk*don't theydoesn't don't need to cluttertheirno, his, no their talk page with an "OK" message, or
    • when they innocently thank an editor that may in the future fall into disrepute

    (Bless youMitchell and Webb)

    Anyway, the point is that there are plenty of Willondon's accolades to be marvelled at in Their fuller article at

    Main page:User talk:Willondon/Accolades

    Miscellaneous things

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    • 20:50, 30 June 2015: There's nothing wrong with this format, but let's admit that it's awfully tempting to change the time of day to "50:20".
    • Incompetance: When criticizing others, don't worry about mispelling 'incompitent', because any deviation from the currently correct 'incompetent' can be readily defended as ironic. (See also "uneducated fouls")
    • Made it better: The algorithms ofClueBot NG are mysterious to me, but we both seem to sense that an edit summary of "made it better" is a sure sign of shenanigans. (Note: This is a statement about Wikipedia edits, not politicians.)

    • Cahoots: If more than one editor opposes you, using similar lines of reasoning to arrive at similar conclusions, they may all be in cahoots. What are the chances that all those editors could reflect independently and come to the same conclusion? It’s more likely that they’re conspiring against you. If in doubt, consult an administrator about cahoots.
    • History of computers: Hurrah, it’s my turn at the counter at last! But the clerk seems frustrated, irate and harrassed. What’s wrong with this stupid PC Load of crap? they asked, and I remembered the ‘70s when gurus and seers confidently forecast that paper will be a thing of the past, and everything will go lightning fast. (August 2018) *sigh*
    • Ending in zero: It's apparently an important birthday. I definitely feel a decade older, and I feel very much wiser, too. I'm just not sure about what.
    • They were just doing their best: I've never found this statement to be as comforting as some seem to think it is.

    Last part of this user page

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    Wikipedia is made of scholars,gnomes, experts and vandals, and administrators treading like Socrates in sandals. This creaky machine of jerry-rigged parts and chaotic schematics triumphs nevertheless in fits and starts. As long as we're all having fun...

    Cheers,Willondon (talk).


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