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Thinker78 is a user, since late 2015, of amesopedian editor ofWikipedia who started editing anonymously when the project came out in 2001. His first account wasUser:WonderingAngel-aesc78, but sadly he didn't continue editing with it and has since lost the password. He believes in doing an excellent job, fairness, rational and honest debate, admitting mistakes, and the necessity of giving explanations for one's actions. He doesn't likeargumentum ad verecundiam, abuse of authority, nor unduecensorship.
Among other things, he is an investigator,[a] a translator,[b] a formerunion official, anempath, asyncretist veg'n, and afree thinking skeptic. In college he was one of the top students in classes of Logic, Math, and Statistics. At one of his jobs, he was one of the best among 1,000 employees and top of his division.[c] Since he was a kid he has felt passion for the written word and its analysis. Sometimes in his life outside of Wikipedia he gets threats of torture or death for unknown reasons.[d] Maybe he tries to be tooinsightful, open-minded, and vocal for his own good.
Due to Thinker78's trying to beimpartial and unbiased in his analysis and editing, sometimes editors tend to accuse him ironically of being partial and biased, more specially in controversial topics. This is because he tries to think and analyze independently, questioning what he thinks needs to be questioned and playing theDevil's advocate.
This, without trying to adopt, or make exception to his skepticism, the majority's position only because it is the majority's or popular position. This is not to say he won't adopt the majority or minority position if he thinks it is the proper thing to do based on logic and Wikipedia'sguidelines and policies. These two latter for some reason in his opinion seem to be often ignored in favor of a single page's status quo or editors' personal opinions.
 | The person behind this user has been a registered user ofWikipedia since at least29 January 2008. |
| This user has been registered inWikipedia sinceNovember 29, 2015. |
 | This user has made over 20,000 edits toWikipedia. |
 | This user is one of the10,000 most active English Wikipedians of all time. |
| ESU | 99.2% for major edits and99.5% for minor edits. – Last update: 30 July 2023. |
| This user wasblocked, but is blocked no longer. |
| es- gt-5 | Este usuario puede contribuir con un nivelprofesional delespañol chapín. |
| en-5 | This user can contribute with aprofessional level ofEnglish. |
   | This user is a translator from Spanish to English onWikipedia:Translation. |
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These are some tasks I am currently working on, but not necessarily include all. Try adding no more than 3-5 at a time to avoid a long list.
Inrequests for comments, be concise, understandable, and provide option A and B if applicable. Before ending it, post about theconsensus you think was reached, maybe pinging all editors who contributed. Follow "Pending consensus" procedure.
Implement changes after 7 days if there is consensus. After 7 days, if there is no editors' input in the relevant talk page thread and no sign of opposition to my latest entry, post a notice that change will be implemented in 7 days, perWP:IMPLICITCONSENSUS.[e] But remember, perWP:TALKDONTREVERT, "Consensus cannot always be assumed simply because editors stop responding to talk page discussions in which they have already participated."
Tasks to do pending other action.
If you are a visitor in my profile page, you are most than welcome performing these tasks.
Done Add latest info 5 August 2022 (UTC) 12 Aug 2022 Done Make statistical analysis using whatamidoing data.Make statistical analysis of articles per types. 19:20, 24 July 2022 (UTC)These tasks only reflect some edits I planned on doing for later, which may be just a fraction of my total edits overall.
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Done Make map ofPetén and its neighbors - 14 March 2024 - 15 March 2024
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[[File:Pictogram voting comment.svg|20px|link=|alt=]][[Special:Permalink/402359171]]https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&oldid=402359171 | This user findscensorship offensive. |
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 | This user tries to do the right thing. If they make a mistake, pleaselet them know. |
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 | This user believes that an editor should be humble, and weigh arguments by their rationality and not solely by the seniority of the other editor. |
 | This user thinks it is a sad day when an editor, specially an administrator, doesn't want to seek consensus and unreasonably refuses to provide verifiable evidence of what they say. |
 | This user realizes that a single short edit can take an hour or more of work |
 | This editor has learned not to copy edit unsourced information. |
| This user realizes that it can take eight hours of work to copyedit a short article of 2000 words. |
| This editor has learned to read article's tags before copyediting. |
 | This user has discovered that some contributors have been Wikipedia editors for more than ten years with thousands of edits, and they still useunreliable sources... |
 | This editor has learned that a single revert may beedit warring. |
| This user has learned to have in mind specific examples before making proposals to modify policies or guidelines. |
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| This user has scored 189 in theWikipediholic test. |
Administrators are users who volunteer their time and who go beyond what a regular editor does. For that alone they deserve praise. But as any person imbued with authority, some administrators act in undesirable ways. For example, they may display the badge when there is absolutely no need to, specially when doing regular edits as any other editor. They may feel entitled to not be pointed out Wikipedia guidance by regular editors and may get annoyed, offended, or angered when an editor dares to do so, or worse if a regular editor dares to criticize them.
They may take unfair adverse actions against editors who they don't like or who criticized them or a fellow administrator, when the context permits it (like denying certain rights or permissions). And they may cover for each other just like police departments do. In some situations, even non-administrators may pile on editors who commit the sin of pointing out policies or guidelines to an administrator, like if they know it all, are above rules and can't make mistakes.
After all, administrators and the Wikipedia community are people too, and as people they have the same qualities and defects as society at large.
Consensus in a discussion is the agreement or support of a proposal by at least a majority of participants who provided non-repeated reasonable arguments. This ideally reflecting objectively more weight of said arguments, which provides proper basis for a consensus decision.
No consensus occurs when there is an unclear balance in the weight of reasons regarding an action in agood faith discussion.
Sometimes, people just disagree. There is no one, singular Right® way, it is a matter of editorial preference. If you find that the majority disagree with you, you just accept it and move on. It doesn't matter that you disagree or why. Plenty of times I disagree with the consensus/majority, but it is just my life experience, my viewpoint, the way I learned to use the English language. Not everyone has the same background or preferences. Once it is clear that you are in the minority, it is best to just thank them for participating, and bow out. Everyone is on minority side of consensus from time to time.If I could offer some advice, it would be to work on being more concise. People are more willing to consider your perspective when you only use one or two paragraphs andkeep it simple. Quoting policy or MOS doesn't really help; people like what they like. So present the before and after, and keep the "why I like this" down to a sentence or two, in plain English. Then they are more likely to read everything you wrote, rather than gloss over the extended reasoning and form an opinion prematurely. The point by point edits did you no favors. It is also more effective to say why your way isbetter, rather than focus on why the other way iswrong. Positivity often rules the day.Dennis Brown -2¢ 18:15, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
For a long time, years in fact, the pageJimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal had asstatus quo a first sentence that didn't reflect guidance ofMOS:FIRST. It was more fit for the biographical page ofJimmy Savile and inappropriate for the article at hand because it didn't even mention the main topic, the scandal. When I changed it to follow the guideline,I was reverted. I posted in the talk pageabout my rationale but there was no input.
I proceeded to summon editors from the community at large in aWikipedia:Requests for comment, which hada lot of input. The immediate and final consensus agreed with me, that the page had an inappropriate first sentence.
I didn't do something important: seekconsensus to officially end the discussion and implement the change. This is recommended to be done even if it's your own rfc and the consensus about the change seems evident. This reduces the risk of outrage andincivility.
The moral of the story is that sometimes the status quo needs to be challenged, but challenged properly.
I learned thatBeatriz de la Cueva was the first female governor in North America and all the Americas. She was born in Spain and was governor of theCaptaincy General of Guatemala. Apparently, reading theList of first women governors and chief ministers, there was no other female governor in the Americas, for almost 400 years.
Betoken: To give evidence of.[4][f] 21:52, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Bowdlerization or expurgation: Form ofcensorship that involves purging anything deemed noxious or offensive from an artistic work, or other type of writing or media. 22:04, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Guillemet: Pair of punctuation marks in the form of sideways doublechevrons,« and», used asquotation marks in a number of languages. 22:26, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Grognard: Veteran and most prestigious elements of Napoleon's Imperial Guard and Army.
Metonymy:Figure of speech in which a concept is referred to by the name of something closely associated with it.
Mirabilia: Plural of mirabile. Marvels or wonders.
Synecdoche:Metonymy in which a term for a part of something is used to refer to the whole.
Gadfly:Person who interferes with the status quo of a society or community by posing novel, potentially upsetting questions.
Etymon: Earlier origin word of another one (plural: etyma).
Metathesis: Transposition of sounds or syllables in a word, or of words in a sentence.
Panegyric: Formal public speech or written verse, delivered in high praise.
Psychopomp: Entity believed to escort deceased souls to an afterlife. 8 Feb 2023
Argufy: To argue without any aim. 29 March 2023
Deracinate: Uproot people. 29 March 2023
Ides: Middle of the month in the Roman calendar. 26 April 2023
Therianthropy: Mythological capacity toshapeshift.
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| Hey there! This is for how nice you were on my page to such a newbie. Good on ya!Rexlikescheese (talk) 22:47, 24 July 2018 (UTC) |
 | The Copyeditor's Barnstar |
| For cleaning upDhvani Desai. Keep contributing. :)Nizil (talk) 04:39, 1 October 2018 (UTC) |
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| This barnstar is awarded toThinker78 for copy edits totaling over 4,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during theGOCE September 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions!Miniapolis 20:17, 4 October 2018 (UTC) |
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| This barnstar is awarded to Thinker78 for his calm under pressure and noble work on wikipedia. Keep up the good work sir!May1787 (talk) 01:10, 6 October 2022 (UTC) |
 | The Editor's Barnstar |
| I have a great appreciation for editors who can put their biases aside. It should be applauded any time it's recognized. Keep up the good work.Nemov (talk) 19:56, 23 November 2022 (UTC) |
June 22, 2018:Transclusion. InTalk:Noah's Ark#Myth vs account or story controversy, it took me more than two and a half hours to figure out how to properly format it, given that initially text was just copied from thehelp desk to the talk page ofNoah's Ark. Initially I was just looking at which way was more proper to indicate that text was "moved". I thought abouthatnotes, but I spent a long time analyzing the guideline to see if it was proper use. I figured out that I could use atransclusion hatnote. But soon I got embroiled in finding a way to indicate which text was actually moved, because a new discussion was started. I found outabout boxes. But then I realized I would have to actually transclude the text. Which I finally managed to do,transcluding the text. Yay!
User:Ed, reportedly a 14 year-old editor with thousands of edits, founder ofWikipedia:Esperanza,WikiProject International relations,WikiProject Lists. Inspiring!
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Contemporary accounts state Mongol soldiers looted and then destroyed mosques, palaces, libraries, and hospitals. Priceless books from Baghdad's thirty-six public libraries were torn apart, the looters using their leather covers as sandals.[8] Grand buildings that had been the work of generations were burned to the ground. TheHouse of Wisdom (the Grand Library of Baghdad), containing countless precious historical documents and books on subjects ranging from medicine to astronomy, was destroyed. Claims have been made that the Tigris ran red from the blood of the scientists and philosophers killed.[9][10] Citizens attempted to flee, but were intercepted by Mongol soldiers who killed in abundance, sparing no one, not even children.
