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Rename "War on Terror"?

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I just movedWar on Terrorism toWar on Terror, per a move request, and the fact that the latter name appears to be more widely used, by supporters and opponents, and by our sources. Should this template move as well, to match the article? -GTBacchus(talk)02:18, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, all related articles should be moved to match the main one. ~Rangeley (talk)02:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Concur.Nomen NescioGnothi seauton17:44, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is no war on Terrorism or War on Terror – you can't fight terror with war. "War on Terror" is a bad name, as bad as "War on Terrorism" is.— Precedingunsigned comment added by188.193.155.31 (talk)11:23, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Islamic terrorism

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Any resaon why the inclusion of the articleIslamic terrorism was reverted? It is, after all, one of the leading causes of the war on terrorism.YahelGuhan05:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Added it back in See also section .Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk)19:23, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Add Mexico and Colombia

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Mexico and Colombia have supported this war, why don't you add them to the list?—Precedingunsigned comment added by190.28.191.59 (talk)20:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There will never be consensus on this template

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I see that a revert war is under way. This is inevitable given the topic. As the old adage goes, one man's terrorist is another man'sfreedom fighter. Since there will never be an universally-agreeddefinition of terrorism, I believe thatthis template should be titled the U.S. War on Terror [or Terrorism]. The template only really focuses on the U.S. fight against Islamist terrorism. There are other kinds. The2001 anthrax attacks are not included, and Russia is not listed as a participant even though the 2004Beslan school hostage crisis is. The "See Also" section only contains U.S.-focused terms and legal issues. The template does not include Spain's war onETA, India's conflicts with themyriad of insurgent groups operating within its borders, Thailand'sstruggle with insurgents in its southern provinces, the conflict betweenSri Lanka and theLTTE, Colombia's war with theFARC, etc. Furthermore, trying to categorize the War on Terrorism as a conventional war like World War II simply will not work.--RDavi404 (talk)23:42, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, there is no "revert war". Then, if we are only going to make this global phenomenon relevant only to the USA, then the template will need to be removed from most ofthese articles, as the USA has no relevance to them.Flarkins (talk)21:14, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I see you made a move without any consensus whatsoever, in fact the opposite. This does not bode well.Lapsed Pacifist (talk)14:24, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No, I moved it back to the name accepted since October 27, 2007, after you moved it without proper consensus.Flarkins (talk)14:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What do you base that on? Where did you hear there is a time limit on move discussions? How many users supported your move? I thought it extraordinarily presumptuous of you to move without discussion.Lapsed Pacifist (talk)19:23, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have to agree. No one voiced any disapproval of the move on this discussion page in that two year time frame. I also have never read anywhere that consensus has to be reached within a certain time frame. I think the fact that there are at least three discussions started about renaming the template should be evidence enough that a change needs to be made. Are we headed forarbitration?--RDavi404 (talk)21:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What? When did I say that there was a time limit? Well, the "argument" for renaming the page was mainly based on the opinion, that it may or may not be only used in the US, even though the person who proposed it stated it might be used in the UK too.. So, the fact that it is referred to as'international' in Brazil,The 'war on terror' is being won by the coalition forces in Iraq' in a UK newspaper.It is also used on an Italian website,And the French Wikipedia has a whole section on other states who have claimed they are fighting in the war on terror,In Yemen, there is an entire page on the affects of the war on terror for Muslims living in Europe, the US has no relevance here, as well as apage talking about Israel's war on terror, and more examples available. This all discredits the opinion that the term is only used in the US, or it is only the US fighting in the war.Flarkins (talk)16:32, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm unable to read Portuguese, Italian, French or Hebrew well enough to figure out if those sources support your argument. If you read the Yemen op-ed, you'll see that it is mocking the use of the term "war on terror" and questions whether it is actually a "war on Islam." Israel has had a "war on terror" for decades before 9/11 so if we're going to include them on the template then we should expand it to before 2001.RDavi404 (talk)18:20, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Israel has had a "war on terror" for decades before 9/11 so if we're going to include them on the template then we should expand it to before 2001" Well yes, the war didn't start at 9/11, even the main article doesn't say this.Flarkins (talk)18:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The timeline on the template begins in 2001. Should we expand? And if so, how far back?RDavi404 (talk)23:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"This all discredits the opinion that the term is only used in the US, or it is only the US fighting in the war." I never said this. It's a US-instigated and -led war, that's why it was moved to show this. Flarkins, I'm not seeing much backing for your controversial page move.Lapsed Pacifist (talk)19:09, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Obama Administration dropping "War on Terror" phrase

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Fox News[1] and NPR[2] report that the Obama Administration is choosing to drop the terms "Global War on Terror" from its lexicon. It prefers "Overseas Contingency Operation." How should this affect the template? Should the timeline only exist from 9/11/2001 through the end of the Bush Adminstration? --RDavi404 (talk)16:18, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Use "Navbox with collapsible groups"

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For the sake of smaller screens, use the "Navbox with collapsible groups" template with the "Participants", "Conflicts", "Islamist attacks" and "See also" sections as the groups.

Something like this:

Timeline · Casualties · Theaters · Criticism · ISAF · Terrorism · War
Participants
Operational
Targets
Conflicts
Operation
Enduring Freedom
Other
Islamist attacks
2001 – 2002
2003 – 2004
2005 – 2006
2007 – 2008
2009 – current
See also

I included divs to make each group's list of links easier to distinguish from its neighbors and combined the "above" and "below" lines.212.84.104.90 (talk)00:14, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Terrorist attacks

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I've removed terrorist attacks from the template as they are not part of WoT and no reliable sources include them in WoT. Therefore , it isWP:SYNTH. I've placed the removed section below, if someone is interested in making a new template. --JokerXtreme (talk)15:57, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Terrorist attacks
20012002
20032004
20052006
20072008
2009–current


I think we shouldavoid using the T word as much as possible. I plan on making templates that list Islamist attacks by country. SeeTemplate:Campaignbox Terrorism in Indonesia for an example.~Asarlaí16:10, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, but are all attacks listed made by islamists? In the meantime I have to figure out what I've broke with the moving. --JokerXtreme (talk)16:12, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mujahidden

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I'd like to removeMujahideen from the list of targets. Please have a look atMujahideen article. I see no reason why to include this article in this navbox.Americophile09:19, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it.Americophile14:40, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Extrajudicial killing

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Please addExtrajudicial killing. Thanks44TRE9 (talk)10:47, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Conflicts-Others

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Why thisinfobox don't includeFirst Chechen War,Second Chechen War,War of Dagestan or evenInsurgency in the North Caucasus??? Russia's wars are worse, than those conducted by the "West"? Mujahideens in Russia are less terrorists than those in Iraq, Syria ,etc. Although the article appears to be written completely correctly, infobox makes it completely biased! Greetings from Poland --87.105.136.58 (talk)03:35, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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