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Accessories

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Clearly I do not understand how the Accessories line makes it look better. Can anyone explain that to me?Jedi621:24, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's there as part of the fictionality for the sub template. I designed the template originally so that the accessories sub templates could be written without any formatting. Add an argument to the template, like{{Nintendo hardware|NES}} and you will see the NES accessories displayed with it.Dread LordCyberSkull✎☠13:13, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I understand now.Jedi602:57, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Did the sub-template stop working?KMS (talk)20:06, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, someone removed the functionality. Subsequently the sub-templates were then deleted:Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2009 June 24#Nintendo hardware subtemplates192.55.54.42 (talk)17:26, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

proper footer format

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Would anybody oppose this version? It is much closer to the usual footer format found across wikipedia.

Nintendo Hardware
Consoles:Color TV Game |NES/Famicom |NES 2 |AV Famicom |SNES/Super Famicom <br.>Virtual Boy |Nintendo 64 |GameCube |Panasonic Q |iQue |Wii
Handheld:Game & Watch |Game Boy |Game Boy Color |Game Boy Advance <br.>Game Boy Advance SP |Nintendo DS |Game Boy micro |Nintendo DS Lite
Arcade:Vs. UniSystem/DualSystem |PlayChoice-10 |Nintendo Super System |Triforce
Accessories:

I can also restaure the "subheaders", but I think it makes the template takes excesive evrtical space (and absence or presence of color doesn't change that.):

Nintendo Hardware
Consoles
Color TV Game |NES/Famicom |NES 2 |AV Famicom |SNES/Super Famicom <br.>Virtual Boy |Nintendo 64 |GameCube |Panasonic Q |iQue |Wii
Handheld
Game & Watch |Game Boy |Game Boy Color |Game Boy Advance <br.>Game Boy Advance SP |Nintendo DS |Game Boy micro |Nintendo DS Lite
Arcade
Vs. UniSystem/DualSystem |PlayChoice-10 |Nintendo Super System |Triforce
Accessories

-—Thisunsigned comment was added byCirceus (talkcontribs) .

--They are both good. Personally I like the second one but it doesn't really matter.Jedi6-(need help?)19:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Accessories

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When the accessories are listed for GB/GBA and GC, the Game Link Cable is linked to a redirect page. Please capitalize all three words in the link to correct this (change from "Game Link cable" to "Game Link Cable"). Thanks. -Everchanging0204:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind. I fixed it. -Everchanging0204:08, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is looking good

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Thanks to many contributions (including mine if i may say so), this discussion page is looking good. But why was 'Wii' written as 'Nintendo Wii', and should 'Virtual console' and 'Wiiware' be listed in the Wii brackets? There should be a bit of a clean up--213.83.125.225 (talk)09:05, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DSi

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I noticed that someone split the Nintendo DS and the Nintendo DSi. I was under the idea that the DSi is just another version of the Nintendo DS.184.77.221.150 (talk)04:42, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's not, not exactly anyway. It isn't as major an improvement over the DS/DS lite as the DS was over the Game Boy Advance for example, but it does have slightly improved hardware and can play games that can't be played on older systems, making it similar to the step up from the Game Boy to Game Boy Color. Since the GBC is listed separately from the Game Boy/Game Boy Pocket, it makes sense to separate the DSi from the DS as well.-Jeff(talk)00:01, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Listing for Twin Famicom?

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There is no mention of the Twin Famicom here or in the FDS article. Is there a reason for this? While it wasn't made by Nintendo, it is a licensed product.

Gumbyx84 (talk)06:59, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I decided to add it since it was officially licenced.--76.66.187.132 (talk)05:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Missing hardware/articles

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These hardware need English articles before links can be added to the template:

GB Kiss (ja:GB KISS)

Famicom Box (ja:ファミリーコンピュータ#ファミコンボックス)

Nintendo M82

--186.31.189.213 (talk)19:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt any of these are notable enough to have their own article. They're better off as just mentions elsewhere.Namcokid47(Contribs)20:46, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What's the criteria to decide how notable they need to be? Super Famicom Box has already it's own article and is included on the template, so naturally Famicom Box should be too. I see it as a matter of completeness. If a product is notable enough for Nintendo to grant it an official licence, then it is notable enough for inclusion. --186.31.189.213 (talk)14:51, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You're not getting my point. I'm saying that neither of these articles appear notable enough to have their own article, let alone be added to the navbox. I doubt Super Famicom Box has any notability on its own, or a lot of these real-obscure Japan-only peripherals, so I think an AfD might be in order for that one.Namcokid47(Contribs)15:36, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I fully understand what you are saying. I found the Wikipedia guidelines onNotability and read through them. It says, "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list". Based on that, these topics may or may not be notable enough; it depends on the research used to produce the article which hasn't been done yet. If someone wants to put in the effort to find significant coverage from reliable sources, then there would be no problem with the notability of these articles. These could potentially turn out to be good articles. It's not for you nor anyone else to decide that they would not be notable enough before having done any research. The whole point of an encyclopaedia is to give information on many subjects or on many aspects of one subject (check the definition). --190.27.183.137 (talk)18:38, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Understanding the definition of portability

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Apparently, we need to define "portability". The Switch and Virtual Boy are devices that can function without an external screen and be easily set up on a tabletop. They are portable devices that do not fit the definition of a home console nor handheld. What is the issue?« Ryūkotsusei »23:33, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You cannot connect your portable Virtual Boy to your TV and use it as a Home console with extra processing power, like the hybrid Switch.
These two don’t belong in the same category.2A02:8109:8100:1A00:A0E0:96DD:1A44:DC9B (talk)07:23, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Both uses a wall outlet like a home console. Needing external power is part of the definition of "home console". Anyway, this is not worth it. The Virtual Boy was listed as a handheld and the Switch Lite as a hybrid. I've moved them. Hopefully, these do not need discussion.« Ryūkotsusei »14:10, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's okay to list Virtual Boy as a Portable then, but don't mix it with the Hybrid Nintendo Switch consoles. And don't spread the Switch models all over the place as well, it gets confusing to read.UltimateDisco (talk)15:12, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
VB is a portable device. The discussion was about why the Switchneeds a TV and is not a portable, on-the-go device. I'm not saying it's "okay" as it is. I just do not want to be bothered anymore about this topic.However, you are defeating the purpose of a navigation template by listing devices that do not fit the group definition. "Hybrid Nintendo Switch consoles". What makes the Lite a "Hybrid" as opposed to a handheld? You say "Switch models all over the place". Quite an exaggeration. Two locations. Furthermore, there is only one console that has an article.Per template guidelines, non-articles should be avoided. Also,[1] there is nothing wrong with abbreviating a name that is already stated.« Ryūkotsusei »22:32, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think we should stick to using the real product names as marketed (it's a Nintendo Switch, it's a Wii), plus there is space anyway since it's a navbox displayed on desktop only.
Hybrid is the way the Nintendo Switch is marketed by Nintendo (a handheld, tabletop, home console). It's really the three previous categories in one. (which is quite genius of Nintendo, by the way)UltimateDisco (talk)23:09, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Are these contributions yours? Editors will need to know.2a02:8109:8100:1a00:a0e0:96dd:1a44:dc9b(talk ·contribs ·WHOIS),2a02:8109:8100:1a00:40c7:4037:ddee:9a1(talk ·contribs ·WHOIS). Edit: I could not request aThird Opinion because of these contributions.« Ryūkotsusei »12:55, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

←) A request for aThird Opinion has been made. 11:08, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

Categorizing devices as "portable" was meant as a broad generalization of its capabilities. Wikipedia is not a tool to market products. Needed specifics can be read in the article itself. Also, please seewp:commonname. We arenot a promotional piece for any company. Templatesshould have a consistent formatting. Here, wikilinks use common abbreviations or the article name. There are no need for exceptions.« Ryūkotsusei »11:57, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Further categorization

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  • If a console does not fit in a specific category, what is inaccurate with "Other" to encompass everything else? Also, Pokemon Mini does not fit the "dedicated" definition since it plays interchangeable physical media.« Ryūkotsusei »13:37, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Pokemon Mini is dedicated because had a limited range of 5 in-house carts for it. You cannot put it in the same category as a real retail portable console like Game Boy or DS.UltimateDisco (talk)11:20, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am still awaiting a response to the above and whether the IPv6 edits also belong to@UltimateDisco: so a third opinion can be donefor this compared tothis. There is no clarification of why devices that fail to be classified under a specific console sub-category, cannot be grouped together amongst a broader category. I do not see a need to further branch out dedicated consoles.« Ryūkotsusei »02:41, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I also think a category for Virtual Boy only to be a bit too much, that is why I suggested we use the category "Portable" instead of "Handheld" so we can group Game Boy and Virtual Boy side-by-side.
    Nintendo Switch and Nintendo Switch 2 are Hybrid consoles though. It is not just a marketing concept, it is a real category of consoles inaugurated by Nintendo but already followed by other devices like the Steam Deck.
    You can't simply remove the category for Virtual Boy and Nintendo Switch consoles because they either fit in existing categories or require an exclusive category (Hybrid)UltimateDisco (talk)11:25, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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