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This template (Template:MinorPlanets Navigator) was considered fordeletion on2008 September 16. The result ofthe discussion was "keep".

I am opposed to the deletion. It serves a very useful function. It has been in use since 2005. Why is it now, after over 3 years, being considered as unuseful?Thor Dockweiler, astronomer.01:30, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The optional argumentPageName (thisis case-sensitive) can be used to override the displayed page name. This is useful with dual-classed objects such as107P/Wilson-Harrington (a.k.a.4015 Wilson-Harrington) or with subscripted names such as(84522) 2002 TC302.Urhixidur15:50, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the box could be upgraded to look nicer. --myselfalso17:28, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This template shouldn't autocollapse. --Harald KhanՃ12:31, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Second that. It defeats the purpose.GregorB (talk)18:27, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed that, it is now expanded by default.GregorB (talk)12:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Please sync fromTemplate:Minor planets navigator/Sandbox, where I've created an accessible version, perWP:HLIST.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);Talk to Andy;Andy's edits23:14, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Ronhjones  ^(Talk)00:59, 18 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please remove the newline between the '}}' and the <noinclude>. It's not necessary, recently added, and adds extra whitespace at the bottom of transcluding articles. thank you. also, there is no need to say <includeonly>uncollapsed</includeonly><noinclude>uncollapsed</noinclude>, when you can just say uncollapsed. see the sandbox.Frietjes (talk)15:46, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 DoneKilliondude (talk)18:06, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you please add the following to the interwiki list:

mk:Шаблон:Мали планети-Навигатор

Thanks a lot. --B. Jankuloski (talk)00:59, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done; I actually added it tothe template's doc page (which is not protected), and moved all the otherinterlanguage links there as well, to make future amendment easier. --Redrose64 (talk)15:00, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please amend parameter "title" in template{{Minor planets navigator}} as follows:

| title = [[List of minor planets#Main index|Navigation overview]] for [[minor planet]]s

Rationale:

• link to list-index is more important than link to generic article (minor planets). Therefore, it should come first.
• revised link leads directly to anchored section with indices(seeList of minor planets § Main index)
• concise: explicitly mentioning keyword "Overview" in link
• the two displayed links are now clearly separated

Thanks for the effort,Rfassbind– talk17:58, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: - I agree with all but your third point/request to reword the title. The #Main_index should definitely be linked to (and the side-by-side wikilinks removed), but the main goal is linking toList of minor planets (notminor planets). Renaming the header on the template would mean a discontinuity between the template name and what appears on the template, potentially causing confusion. Feel free to start a discussion w.r.t. such a move.Primefac (talk)18:51, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Primefac: Thanks for adding the link. For me, it is even better to dropminor planets from the navigation-bar (that link was already there – I just didn't suggest its removal in order to keep the changes and potential discussions to a minimum). However, the alias "Minor planets navigator" seems too weak for saying "if you click here, you'll see a list of links to all numbered minor planets from 1 to 450,000". I'm more worried about the fact, that the general user does not realize that this link leads to an overview. In comparison, the fact, that the template's name doesn't match the link, is a minor issue, as most templates do not display their name. Maybe you have a better idea for naming the link? If not the keyword "Overview", then what about simply naming it "See list" (or index) of minor planets"?Rfassbind– talk22:03, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest,Rfassbind, I'm not entirely sure I approve of this template. This isn't an "overview" or a "navigator" or anything like that. It's simply a glorifiedsuccession box which would probably be better served by havingList of minor planets#Main index in theSee also section (or replaced entirely by said succession box). However, I do agree that should this template not be brought up for deletion, it should be renamed to something more closely resembling what it actually does.

The other option, of course, would be to completely modify the template so that it shows maybe the numerically closest 20 or so minor planets (so that it actuallyis a navigation tool), but then we get into arbitrary splits and "how much is too much".Primefac (talk)00:03, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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This is more of a mini-RfC/FYI/changelog to page-watchers for my intent to modify the functionality & display of this template slightly, as preliminarily discussed on my talk page atThoughts about template: Minor planets navigator and redlink-problem (pingingRfassbind who originally suggested it).

I've already made the desired changes to{{Minor planets navigator/sandbox}} (&testcases) with several examples: I've created a new parameter|number=, which gets passed to{{LoMP}} to create a link to that MP|number='s correspondingList of minor planets list. This link is used on{{PAGENAME}}'s text, so instead of{{Minor planets navigator}} just displaying101955 Bennu on101955 Bennu (for example, which is currently using the sandbox version), it will display101955 Bennu, linking toList of minor planets: 101001–102000#955. This is useful for MPs with and without neighboring redlinked MPs, since it allows easier access to the relevantList of minor planets list (Minor planets navigator only links to the main index).

None of these changes take effect unless|number= is specified; otherwise, the template's behavior & display is unchanged.

When Iself-fulfill this request (after at least a week (I'll likely be busy most of next week anyway)), baring any dissent (orsooner, if unanimous consent), I'll go through all numbered transclusions of{{Minor planets navigator}} to add the corresponding|number= parameter (some transclusions, as onAsteroid, won't be touched).   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 18:04, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural note:Tom.Reding can fulfill this request as atemplate editor. — Andy W. (talk · ctb)18:25, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Moved testcases from sandbox to standard /testcases.Tom.Reding, depending on the subset of the 2700+ transclusions needing change, and how (semi)automated your post-update task is, your adding|number= may justify aWP:BRFA perbot policy. (not entirely sure) — Andy W. (talk · ctb)21:11, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Andy M. Wang, I'm comfortable doing the post-update task myself (I've done many similar tasks like this). I also have an alternative (but as-yet-unflagged) bot account I could setup & flag if need be. Either way, I'd like to be the one to do this in case I find a reason to tweak{{LoMP}} and/or{{Minor planets navigator}} (I tend to be good at finding inconsistencies).   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 22:30, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - transcluded pages & documentation updated.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 13:37, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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