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Los Negros are missing.97.124.255.168 (talk)06:29, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Los Zetas have turned against its employer/partner, theGulf Cartel. Although there have been rumors recently, there are now official reports of massive confontations between them in recent weeks, mostly in the state of Tamaulipas.[1],[2] I will modify the relevant articles to reflect this new and confirmed development. --BatteryIncluded (talk)20:40, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I see thatSergio Villarreal Barragán was removed from the list today, after his arrest. I am concerned that this practice will dismantle the knowledge that is represented in the template. We need some way to represent "disabled members" or "former members" for each group.
Maybe when a person is dead/arrested/retired, their name goes into italics -- and we make that clear at the top of the template?128.59.180.159 (talk)03:23, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I added in the word current before the leaders. Dead or extradited leaders should not go here. It is for the current capos. When a person is killed or extradited remove them. If they are running the show from jail, or suspected to be, leave them. I find it annoying that Amado Carrillo Fuentes was listed as the leader of the Juarez Cartel when he has (all conspiracy theories aside) been dead for thirteen years. Osiel is in prision in the U.S. Nacho is dead. I took them off the template. And I like the Italics system, but a dead guy is not a leader. Put them in Italics and put them with the founders of a cartel, if they were founders. Osiel, for example is neither a founder or a current leader. This will not dismante the knowledge, it will keep it current. Besides if Amado is listed as a leader why not Pablo Acosta etc?—Precedingunsigned comment added by198.177.8.250 (talk)19:55, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
BatteryIncluded: You recently removed his name from the template stating that he is not wanted by U.S. or Mexican authorities and does not appear to be involved in cartel activities. However, at least one credible article states that Mexican authorities believe the cartel is being run by sister of the brothers, Enedina, and her son Luis. Obviously thats not a definitive "Yes," but very few things regarding top-level traffickers in Mexico are (at least in public record). Source:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7692319.stmjlcoving (talk)22:10, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I got detailed information from this book:Beith, Malcolm (2010).The Last Narco. New York, New York: Grove Press. p. 47.ISBN 978-0-8021-1952-0.
"Miguel Ángel Félix Gallardo kept a low profile and in 1987 he moved with his familyGuadalajara city. "The Godfather" then decided to divide up the trade he controlled as it would be more efficient and less likely to be brought down in one law enforcement swoop. In a way, he was privatizing the Mexican drug business while sending it back underground, to be run by bosses who were less well known or not yet known by the DEA. Félix Gallardo "The Godfather" convened the nation's top drug narcos at a house in the resort of Acapulco where he designated theplazas or territories. The Tijuana route would go to theArellano Felix brothers. TheCiudad Juárez route would go to theCarrillo Fuentes family.Miguel Caro Quintero would run theSonora corridor. The control of theMatamoros, Tamaulipas corridor - then becoming theGulf Cartel- would be left undisturbed toJuan García Abrego. Meanwhile,Joaquín Guzmán Loera andIsmael Zambada García would take over Pacific coast operations, becoming theSinaloa Cartel. Guzmán and Zambada brought veteranHéctor Luis Palma Salazar back into the fold. Félix Gallardo still planned to oversee national operations, he had the contacts so he was still the top man, but he would no longer control all details of the business."
The book is well sourced and has been reviewed by expert George Grayson. The information seems very reliable. --BatteryIncluded (talk)18:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any particular reason why the "(Names in italics represent dead or arrested individuals)" notice is at both the top and bottom of the template? It seems a bit redundant. I suggest that this notice should be removed from the bottom of the template to make it look cleaner.Wingman4l7 (talk)01:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done --BatteryIncluded (talk)20:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This needs to be updated to include CIDA, Cartel de Beltran Leyva is now known as CPS, Templarios have splintered from La Familia, etc.— Precedingunsigned comment added by76.23.233.42 (talk)22:56, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's a bad idea for us to have links to individuals we're identifying as "corrupt" and not have articles (with reliable sources, naturally) that support the claims that they can fairly be described as such. Right now the template lists three "corrupt officials" with redlinks for their articles:
Do we have articles for these folks (perhaps under different spellings of their name)? If not, we need to remove the redlinks until we have articles, due to our obligations underWP:BLP. I did do a little looking around about the first person and foundthis 2008 article, but that only says he was arrested. We can't fairly describe a living person as "corrupt" without their being convicted, particularly in a context-free and un-nuanced environment like a raw list like this. --Finlay McWalterჷTalk16:56, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Should this book be added? I'm pretty sure this is the only book of the Mexican Drug War on Wikipedia.ComputerJA (talk)21:07, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I placed the 'List of journalists killed in the Mexican Drug War' undermassacres, but it may as well sit fine underother. What do you think?BatteryIncluded (talk)23:37, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We need to find references to who is the current Gulf Cartel leader. The template lists: Osiel Cárdenas Guillén,Antonio Cárdenas Guillén, Jorge Eduardo Costilla Sánchez,
but they alll have been neutralized.BatteryIncluded (talk)16:49, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
