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Hi, there has been some discussion atWikipedia talk:Article series to codify the format forWikipedia:Article series boxes (aka aseriesbox). The format that many articles used before the MediaWiki message came into existence is close to the format you have, but is a little less like a table of contents (to distinguish them from TOCs) and have a slightly smaller footprint.
I think it would be a good idea to standardize this, so please join the discussion atWikipedia talk:Article series. Thanks. --Lexor|Talk 10:03, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
An image has appeared at the top of the table. I don't feel that it is inappropriate, though keeping it in some sense mean failing the proposed format atWikipedia talk:Article series. For the time beeing I decided to retain the image, but adapting the table in general along the lines of the proposal. --Mic 11:43, Feb 22, 2004 (UTC)
I think that article series for different subjects can't all be the same. This is an article series about the history ofSweden, and thus it is natural to include the Swedish coat of arms at the top of the table. It also gice the table a nicer look.Den fjättrade ankan 01:31, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I think having an image in some seriesboxes is fine. Tweaks on the basic format are fine, so long as they are inaddition to the baseline format (the basic format thatshouldn't be changed is: font, font size, border width and basic layout) and don't replace them. So for me, images like this are fine, any discussion will come up onWikipedia talk:Article series. --Lexor|Talk 04:21, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I've long been disturbed by both this template and thename of the article that covers Sweden's 18th ct experiment with Parliamentarism. Up until now, this template has listed as follows:
Swedish Empire
Great Northern War
Absolute Monarchy
Union with Norway
There are several disturbing things here:
Sweden in fact had amore typical Absolutism in the 17th century, dismantled 1718-22, than the Gustavian Absolutism that was introduced in 1772. The template gives until now the opposite impression.
Frihetstiden is a much used concept for an important epoche 1721/22-72 that somehow has been made invisible.
The Great Northern War was fought by the Swedish Empire, but the link from this template has been to theFrihetstiden-article.
I now change the template to:
Swedish Empire
"Age of Liberty"
Gustav's Absolutism
Union with Norway
This is not ideal, but for matter of brevity "Gustav's Absolutism" is to be preferred instead of better alternatives.
Maybe the phrase "Age of Liberty" has disturbingly much of propagandist ring to it, but it's fittingly short and it corresponds with the terminology used by Swedish (and Finnish?) history books.
The current layout of this template is a bit colorless. What about adding a picture to it? I suggest that we take a historical map, but we could use something else as well. For instance, a picture ofGustav Vasa is used on the swedish history stub. If nobody disagrees, I will add the image to this template.
I agree with adding a historical map. It adds more colour and is also more representative of the whole history overall than just a coat of arms.Gryffindor (talk)22:24, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
generally not a fan of maps in info boxes especially if it's not a geography of article.... because of the limitation of size that we can be produce in the info box without making the info box overwhelming. Basically an accessibility concern and recognition of topic concern. There's got to be something better than a non-legible non-english map we could use? Care and thought should be taking considering it's going to be representing the history of a country or region etc. simply. We'll ping the history project ask those who are familiar with the topic what would be the best image to represent this.Moxy🍁22:42, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Adding a coat of arms image however does not do it either. It's nice that you are deciding to respond here instead of the condescending remarks in your revert edits.Gryffindor (talk)23:01, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Great to see changes stopped..... I'm sure you're well aware same type of change across many templates will have pushback. Do you have any historical suggestions other than a map that's not non-distinguishing or legible? Was personally thinking something along the lines ofBattle of Narva.Moxy🍁23:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]