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International

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Hello. The division of Christian denominations between East and West is not international, does not include all continents (Wikipedia: Systemic bias) and gives the impression that denominations from such and such a region (East and West) are present only in such region (East and West). Which is wrong. The most common, inclusive international academic approach of all continents is:Catholicism,Orthodox Christianity andProtestantism. What do you think? --Nathan B2 (talk)22:31, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not really my focus @Nathan B2 but you seem to have a point. Seems the history has become confused with the geography, theEast West Schism was in the 11th century, beforeProtestantism andcolonialism. I think it is fair to say things have changed since then.Norfolkbigfish (talk)17:59, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Crusading movement

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After much debateCrusades has evolved into a MILHIST article that covers thepassagium generale whose objective was the recovery and defence of Jerusalem in theMiddle Ages, their legacy and aftermath.Crusading movement describes the development of instituitions of Crusading, described as a movement on the Oxford Illustrated History of the Crusade as well as elsewhere. The wider definition of the latter makes it a better fit for this template, either in addition to the link to the former or as a replacement. This was done underWP:BRD, reverted and now this opens the discussion.Norfolkbigfish (talk)09:21, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's one or the other, not both.Crusades is theprimary article, whether mainly "MILHIST" or not.Srnec (talk)00:35, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not really sure this is a rationale.Crusades has largely settled its scope on thepassagium generale to theHoly Land. Not really sure that the concept of aprimary article exists in WP for such a diverse subject—but it is unlikely to fit an article that is a sub-set of an enormous subject—but would stand to be corrected by someone who understood the principles better than me. The two articles are different, and I would argue that an article on the instituition of crusading was a more appropriate fit for this sidebar, although I can see an argument for including both. Maybe it is time for a wider discussion, rather than two editors disagreeing. What do you think?Norfolkbigfish (talk)09:47, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Norfolkbigfish: You have been reverted in this exact same edit byBorsoka (October 2020),Randy Kryn (twice in September 2021) and byAirshipJungleman29,Mathglot andWalter Görlitz earlier this year. And once by me in 2021. There are two earlier talk page sections that dealt with this. It is wider than two people.Srnec (talk)17:46, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, @Srnec, although it doesn't seem quite as black and white as you suggest.Randy Kryn suggested the format of the edit that you have reverted himself.Mathglot has repeatedly revertedto the format of this edit which suggests he didn't object to it but his later edit suggests he has changed his mind. Not one to get overly vexed with now. Good to talk.Norfolkbigfish (talk)07:51, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AddingCalvinism under Western Denominations

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I propose addingCalvinism under Denominations > Western > Protestant.GuardianH (talk)08:46, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It could be considered more of a theological tendency than a distinct group...AnonMoos (talk)09:36, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A theological tendency may mean that Calvinism could transcend certain religious boundaries, but I think that Calvinism is generally distinct from other Protestant branches (such asLutheranism), and as such would probably best be placed as a separate branch.GuardianH (talk)09:18, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New links

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Most of the new links added by helper are those concerning homosexuality. For exampleChristianity and homosexuality and thehistory of Christianity and homosexuality orLGBT clergy andgay bishop andHomosexual clergy in the Catholic Church andList of Christian denominational positions on homosexuality andThe Bible and homosexuality andQueer theology andChristianity and transgender people. This is an overview template and so we don't need two related links for each topic. Otherwise the template will be bloated for no reason. I have tried to trim these links but was reverted. I have given my reason for reverting back here.

Also, terrorism is not a major topic associated with Christianity. I see no reason for its conclusion and will remove it as well.Durziil89 (talk)15:04, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with User:Durziil89 that the template should be basic in the sense that it should include major topics related to Christianity, (such as theTrinity,Prayer andCreeds). It should not focus on one topic alone, in keeping with the templates of other religious traditions, much like that ofJudaism orIslam. That being said, I have restored the de facto denominational list that is a result of teamwork with User:Helper201 and me (with the addition of theOld Catholic Church). I hope this helps. With regards,AnupamTalk15:41, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, we just need one link to Christian politics and readers can click on that link to find out more. The template doesn't need to list every single Christian political ideology that exists.Durziil89 (talk)15:44, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2025

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I propose that Gnosticism be added to the "Related Topics" tab. The Gnosticism template references early Christianity, so it is ideal for the inverse to be true as well.~2025-34190-10 (talk)14:41, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish aconsensus for this alterationbefore using the{{Edit semi-protected}} template.Day Creature (talk)19:53, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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