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Why was this moved to Eupatoria (which to English ears is Юпаторія)? For Ukrainian place names we use the National system; so this should be atYevpatoria.—MichaelZ. 2005-11-25 04:53 Z
I have lived here for the past 5 months. There seems to be absolutely no reason to call it Eupatoria. The most logical transliteration is Yevpatoria. That is what people call it - that is what it is primarily. On searching for information, the Yevpatoria translation is a lot more useful and a lot more accurate.
In general, people here do not know about any Eupator... The name is also translated to Yevpatoriya here. Is the purpose to portray an accurate picture of the place or to give a blind-sided British Textbook view of the place? We ought to make a sidenote that is is Eupatoria in some historical records and use the more accurate name.—The precedingunsigned comment was added by82.207.115.86 (talk)11:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]
Taking a look at google, there are 10 times as many hits for "Eupatoria", so it seems to be by far the most common name in English. I'd imagine it comes in that spelling to English by way of Greek, since "eu" in Greek is pronounced "ev". I'm going to add "Yevpatoria" to the intro though. --Delirium12:59, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever says Google — for evident reasons, you will find far more English versions of most names than Ukrainian ones —, no one will ever sayEupatoria. And I can't remember if I ever met any Ancient Greek inYevpatoriya, but here is the way we, Ukrainians, pronounce this name, be it in Russian or in Ukrainian. What's more,Євпаторія is theofficial form of the name — I mean: not someΕυπατόρια unsuitably transliterated witheu instead ofev —, which may be best transliteratedYevpatoriya, to suit BOTH the Ukrainian AND Russian pronunciation. Sorry for the English-speaking people who think this town may still be some Greek counter… So why stick to such an argument that Google is the ruler, not the inhabitants, the speakers and the government of the country?
Moreover, Google give 98,400 hits for “Yevpatoriya”, 28,200 for “Yevpatoria”, and 270,000 for “Eupatoria” — but take a careful look at what theseEupatoria are exactly in more than 90% cases (I stopped searching after the 12th page, actually), you'd be quite surprised (Polish name,Ancient Greece, arts, plants, diseases, copies from copies and… Wikipedia!). That is:there are about 3.5 times as many for “Yevpatoriya”, Google say.
Which may or may not matter depending on whether there exists an established English name for the city (eg. Ukraine for 'Ukraina' or Crimea for 'Krym') that takes precedence in English Wikipedia. --Irpen22:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know where Google get it's data from but on every map I saw (found by Google!) the town was calledYevpatoriya. So please change the name!Mariah-Yulia (talk)21:15, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well there are some good arguments to proof that google is misleading! The main argument not renaming Kiev to Kyiv is always that foreigners have used the name Kiev for so long. Evpatoria doesn't seem to have that problem cause it's not that famous :). Maybe it's best to wait until a week passes since the request (to rename the article)! Then nobody can accuse anybody of bad faith or being reckless?Mariah-Yulia (talk)13:19, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hate to use this is an argument but both CNN and BBC news and Euronews reported about the gas blast inYevpatoria not don't mentionEupatoria. Therefore I'm moving the article toYevpatoria. —Mariah-Yulia (talk)02:36, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The dumbest thing ever on Wikipedia. And that's saying a lot. All based on the troglodytes of the MSM. Further propagated by the sophomorons of Wikipedia. Yay. None of you eejits know anything about etymology? Stand back and watch the dumbing down of humanity. Bring the popcorn. Darwin was wrong. People of less than average intelligence can prevail - at least at Wikipedia. At least for a while. As in who cares? Your homework assignment is in two parts. 1. Break down the word into its linguistic roots. 2. This is the toughie: do you m*rons really think people pronounce letters the same way in all countries or are you all limited to that peak of beauty known as US English?. Take your time on the assignment.
The lemma is nowYevpatoria, whereas the article starts with "Yevpatoriya, sometimes called also Eupatoria[1]". I am not familiar with the Cyrillic alphabet nor the correct romanisation from Russian or Ukrainian into English. Please have a discussion about what the correct ending is: -ria or -riya. --Gunnar (talk)19:16, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The status of Crimea is not disputed in international, Ukrainian or Crimean law. It is part of Ukraine. The fact may be that it is occupied by Russia. That should be stated. If Wikipedia had existed in WW2, would an article on France have said that its status was disputed, or simply that it was occupied by Germany?Royalcourtier (talk)07:34, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I became interested in Yevpatoria's role during the Crimean war (the landing of the Allied forces and later the battle next to the city) and therefore reorganized the article, especially the history section. I think that the recent history covering the last 5 years including the RU-UA conflict does belong only to this article, if there are some items which are specific to the city - but not to the annexion of the Crimean Peninsula as a whole. That should be covered only inCrimea#History orHistory of Crimea. If anybody can add some details about what happened in Yevpatoria or the surrounding region in 20th and 21th century, especially in the Soviet and Postsoviet era, that would be highly appreciated by me. --Gunnar (talk)19:32, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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