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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.
Discussions:
RM, Yahoo! → Yahoo,not moved, 30 October 2006 (discussion)
RM, Yahoo! → Yahoo,not moved, 13 April 2008 (discussion)
RM, Yahoo! → Yahoo,not moved, 15 August 2013 (discussion)
RM, Yahoo! → Yahoo,no consensus to move, 4 March 2015 (discussion)
RM, Yahoo! → Yahoo,not moved, 9 May 2017 (discussion)
The contents of theYahoo! Korea page weremerged intoYahoo. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please seeits history; for the discussion at that location, seeits talk page.
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The linked article on web services does not remotely describe what Yahoo is or ever was. Yahoo is an online news, information and advertising platform. According to its press release boilerplate: "Yahoo serves as a trusted guide for hundreds of millions of people globally, helping them achieve their goals online / Yahoo Advertising offers omnichannel solutions and powerful data"2601:642:4600:BE10:F868:3FAB:454B:AE16 (talk)19:33, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What Shadow meant was that you should write (in this exact format): "Change[original text in article] to[new text] because[your reason]", and also providingreliable sources to back up your claims. I'm guessing you want a more detailed description of Yahoo in the lead section? If that's the case, please readWP:SUMMARY andMOS:LEAD. The lead section, especially the first sentence, should only briefly describe the defining characteristics of the subject.Liu1126 (talk)22:30, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not asking for it to be more detailed. I'm asking for it to be minimally accurate. Secondary-source answers to "what is Yahoo's business?" are hard to come by because it's such a well-established brand as to require no introduction. Meanwhile, the current incorrect description has no source either. While Yahoo may indeed provide web services that companies use to purchase ad placements, describing its business that way is like describing Walmart as a logistics firm rather than a retailer.2601:642:4600:BE10:F868:3FAB:454B:AE16 (talk)23:11, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The point being made is that you are using Wikipeida'sEdit Request procedure. (as necessary for an unconfirmed user and a semi-protected page) As such, your request MUST be in the form outlined above by Liu1126 - "Please changethese exact words in the article tothese exact other words as supported bythis specific reference." If it isn't, the procedure is to not act on your request.PianoDan (talk)23:56, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, I am not required to use any specific form. I am only required to communicate the change clearly. I have indicated what wording should be changed, and to what it should be changed to. The opening sentence is fundamentally inaccurate as to what business Yahoo is in, and it is unhelpful to delay the point as if this were a court of law where exact forms must be followed. Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy, etc.2601:642:4600:BE10:4859:BD9C:88BC:D3ED (talk)19:44, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: You are not required under threat of punitive action to follow the process as described inWP:EDITXY, but as mentioned by 2 other editors the process is then that any edit may decline youredit request - as I am doing now - as not actioned.
This is not a binding denial, in that your concern - that thelinked article on web services does not remotely describe what Yahoo is or ever was - cannot be addressed . Any editor is free to address such concern. This "denial" simply means your request will be removed from thequeue of requested edits. You may not add this request back into the queue unless you address concerns in the original denial or are requesting a different change. Such action may be interpreted asdisruptive and may result in editors requestingadministrator review.
This appears bureaucratic, and to a degree it is, but all this process does is place upon you the same burden of effort that would exist if you were able to edit the page yourself. —Sirdog(talk)06:06, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Same edge, but different argument: "Yahoo is an American web services provider." Aprovider is a supplier of a service or multiple services; it is the natural or legal person who organises the delivery of these services. We are talking in this article not about the operatorYahoo! Inc. who is mentioned in the following sentence. This article is not about Yahoo the company, this article is about Yahoo theweb service portal. Therefore the first sentence is more precise saying: "Yahoo is an American web services portal."Detailed information about the operating companies can be given to
On chapterYahoo#History: As there is already an article aboutYahoo!, the company, and a specializedhistory article on the company this paragraph should not repeat the content in a redundant way but should focus on the history of the web portal Yahoo! When did which services appear, how was the user statistics, when were certain services discontinued, which was the most popular one and did this change? How many computer centers have been needed to operate the web services, how did the international expansion grow with the international language versions, etc.
The following is a closed discussion of arequested move.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider amove review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was:moved. Consensus to move. While some editors objected to a subset of the moves in addition to those who objected generally, these objections were insufficiently supported, either by vote count or by weight of policy, to prevent a consensus from forming here.
Editors may attempt a bold move of articles that were not covered by this RM but do use Yahoo!; if disputed a new RM should be opened.
–WP:COMMONNAME,MOS:TM. The ! is a stylization that, while present in Yahoo logos, is commonly dropped in independent sources. See, for example, a Google News search forintitle:yahoo -inurl:yahoo or a Google Ngrams search forYahoo!, Yahoo. Similarly, Wikipedia prefers to drop stylizations and ourtitle policy is not based on usage in the company's own publications (which do often drop the ! in text these days) but rather in independent sources. Nominating as a mass move because prior RMs for just theYahoo! page have included calls for all to be considered at once forWP:CONSISTENT titling.SilverLocust💬17:52, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The exclamation mark is only a stylisation for branding purposes (logotype) and is not part of the company's name, per the company itself[1][2]. —kashmīrīTALK21:12, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose A clearWP:TRAINWRECK as this move appears to seek to retroactively change the names of articles where the common name was indeed "Yahoo!" because the product existed before the exclamation point was phased out in common parlance, such as Yahoo! Buzz and Yahoo!Xtra among others. The nominator needs to do a bit more research vis a vis what exactly is commonly called "Yahoo" sans the exclamation point, we shouldn't be playing time machine and rewriting history to suit our whims. I also have a hunch that the Gulliver's Travels characters could be an equivalent primary topic by longterm significance, as they have entered mainstream usage as a term. Their article appears heavily underdeveloped.ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ)07:35, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning support as noted it seems that even primary sources sometimes don't use the exclamation mark however it is often understood as being part of the name though and even if some of the sub topics should be considered on their own merits its probably best to have a central discussion here.Crouch, Swale (talk)14:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also under the impression that this could turn out to be aWP:TRAINWRECK. For example, the request refers to "the company", butYahoo! Japan has not ever been part of the company that is covered by most of the articles nominated here. It was originally run byYahoo! Japan Corporation (missing from the list of nominated articles) and affiliated withSoftbank Group), and is now run byLY Corporation (jointly run by SoftBank Group andNaver Corporation alongside theLine (software) app).Yahoo! Kids is also part of the Japan company although the article there mixes information on it and the defunct service associated with the American company. I don't know how many other articles in the proposal have similar issues, but it appears that the usage and purpose of the exclamation point may vary widely among the cases.Oppose moving articles associated with the Japanese company.Dekimasuよ!20:17, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Whether to move defunct services (likeYahoo!Xtra),
Any other exceptions people think to raise here, likeYahoo! Japan (a service that is no longer owned in part by Yahoo).
If this discussion results in moving some of the articles, and people find that particular pages should have been included or not included, it would be simple enough to have a follow-up RM for more individual consideration.
No one is asking you to nominate them one by one, just to be 100% sure which ones SHOULD be moved rather than nominate them wholesale without research.ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ)00:00, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is primarily the barrier to participation that is required by trying to sort out which category each of the many nominees falls into. Meanwhile well-meaning editors who do not recognize the concerns may support or oppose on the basis of the topline move suggestion.Dekimasuよ!04:20, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support i am nervous that this many moves might break something or there might be some areas of exception but overall I think that this is a good idea and obeys our policies on naming pages.Jorahm (talk)16:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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The redirectY@h00! has been listed atredirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets theredirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect atWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 11 § Y@h00! until a consensus is reached.Hey man im josh (talk)13:17, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a"change X to Y" format and provide areliable source if appropriate.Actualcpscmscrutinize,talk17:50, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: You are not required under threat of punitive action to follow the process as described inWP:EDITXY, but as mentioned by 2 other editors the process is then that any edit may decline youredit request - as I am doing now - as not actioned.
Done "Previously, the company discontinued China Yahoo! Mail..." sounded even less awkward to me, so I did it that way.PianoDan (talk)00:18, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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