Talk:Worldwide Communion of Catholic Apostolic Churches
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Hmm...so who is really the American Church for ICAN??? No one can seem to give a striaght or honest answer.
Since when is the Goede Herder a member thereof? I looked for this information on their respective websites, and I found... nothing! -Waelsch 00:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)This article lacks neutrality and is written like a panflet.—Precedingunsigned comment added byJandroral (talk •contribs)00:23, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There are 2 provinces of the Communion that were founding members that are in the Unites States , the Mexican National Catholic Church and the Evangelican Charismatic Catholic Communion both of which are opposed to Eduardo Aguirre placing himself as president of the communion and dictator of all action. The communion is doomed with a former Roman Catholic priest who was fired from Rome and excommunicated by the pope, as head of the communion. The Bible says,"Unless God builds the house, the builder builds in vain." There will be a meeting of the communion in Fort Worth , Texas the first week of June, Monday-Wednesday where Aguiree and his liberal agenda will be dealt with. All Bishops in Apostolic succession are invited to attend , only member jurisdictions will be able to vote, but all imput that is of the Lord will be welcome and good churches, well organized and serving the Lord will be invited to join the communion.The official ICAN website is down now. It was formerly maintained by the Catholic Apostolic National Church, U.S., but as of August 10 it has been taken down. The article's references linking to this website have been updated.
Sure would be nice to know who wrote the above paragraph. Also, about the article itself, it's lacking a single reference. That's not good. --Deselms (talk)05:25, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What is the difference between the WCCAC and the Old Catholics, and the PNC, and the Mariavites, and the Orthodox? Are they in communion with them? If not, why not? --Richardson mcphillips (talk)22:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
CICAM isComunión Mundial de Iglesias Católicas Apostólicas.
In 2008, there were several edits by what looks likeWP:SPAs. It looks like there was a power struggle c. 2008. Three websites made claims about CICAM-WCCAC in 2008–2009,icergua.org,igrejabrasileira.com.br, andmncc.net.
In2007 the homepage ofmncc.net stated that "The Mexican National Catholic Church: A member church of the Old Catholic Church Corp." In2008 the homepage ofmncc.net stated that it was "a member of the Worldwide Communion of Catholic Apostolic Churches". According to theOrthodox Christians in North America 1794–1994, reprinted on theOrthodox Church in America website (oca.org),TheOrthodox Church in America Diocese of Mexico "was created through the mass conversion (some 10,000 persons) of the entireMexican National Catholic Church to Orthodoxy in 1972," (here) andoca.org,links toocamexico.org and not tomncc.net. The websitemncc.net contains assertions that do not conform to reality, examples include:
According tomncc.net, "The Communion has an Educational network to promote Christian Education and High Education: Oxford Educational Network," (here), which according toJohn Bear, in the 2012 edition ofDegree mills: the billion-dollar industry that has sold over a million fake diplomas, is an "unrecognized accrediting organization" (here). A google search of forum sites is interesting to read but doesn't lead to anything reliable. The "internationally accredited school" described onmncc.net is not found on theTexas Education Agency'sMap of Texas Charter Schools.
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@Wkharrisjr:nice edit – but the contentadded in 2009 that referencesCICAM statutes onicergua.org at theWayback Machine (archived March 30, 2009) is no longer found in Google searches, e.g.Google search: "CICAM profesa firme e íntegramente" andGoogle search: "CICAM reconoce que únicamente los cristianos varones", All that content may be outdated. –BoBoMisiu (talk)23:34, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have done some edits recently. In summary: I have dramatically shortened and merged some very wordy sentences and paragraphs and tried to throw out as much of the unsourced, unreferenced stuff as possible. I have added sources and citations. The list of member churches was quite a mess - the wrong Mexican church was linked, and the actual member church not mentioned (possibly because of someone not wanting to highlight the anti-gay anti-women stances?). There was / is so much unsourced material and still no evidence that WCCAC still exists - no website, in 2019?Vintage-vintner (talk)13:36, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Some totally unsourced and unreferenced garbage was added last year, specifically:
"The World Communion of Catholic Apostolic Churches is still very active when it comes to Europe and most especially to Archbishop Gioacchino Collica who is presently leading the Catholic Apostolic Church of Europe with its headquater in Germany. His Exzellency Archbishop Collica who has been with ICAB however has been Incardinated into the Worldwide Communion of Cathilic Apostolic Churches by Most Revd. Mons. Jose Sanchez, the Archbishop of the Catholic Apostolic Church in America as well as by the Most Revd. Msgr. Ricardo Rodriguez, the Secretary to the Congregation of the Faith. Work continues with high speed as there has been the recently formation of a new religious order as well as several paszoral visits into other countrys, including Cameroon which will be visites in January."
I suggest using a good spellcheck. And.. sources? I have restored the SOURCED and REFERENCED text that was wiped.