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TheAnalog sampled filter article wasblanked on 2025-09-23 and that title now redirects toSwitched capacitor. The contents of the former article are available inthe redirect's history; for the discussion at that location, see theredirect's talk page.

Hi,the article states that the SC behaves like a LOSSLESS resistor. This is not correct. The capacitor itself is lossless but the equivalent loss that a conventional resistor would incur is realized in the switching devices. Someone else had previously mentioned that but left the article unchanged. So at this point I am removing the word "lossless". One could also explain how the SC incurs losses but I believe this would be beyond the scope of this article— Precedingunsigned comment added byBrunoHaider (talkcontribs)00:24, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Hi everyone, I added a short description that shows that Req = 1/(f*Cs).This is true of integrators; I don't know whether it also applies to other cases.
--Biscay18:28, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Improving this article

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This article seems to focus on the mathematics of switched capacitors. I think it should include more on the application(s) - eg. theSwitched-capacitor filter which currently redirects here.

There should just be more information. The mathematics part is a required part. If someone could make a picture of the timing of the 2 switches and the current flowing, that would help alot understanding this.Aphexer (talk)11:19, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, for someone who knows nothing about switched capacitors to see what's happening to the charge around the opamp without a picture is pretty tough... I guess that means I should work on itGuerberj (talk)16:06, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adding toWikipedia:WikiProject Electronics as a stub.--RobBrisbane03:27, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Diagram of MDAC does not contain a feedback capacitor. Is the switch in the feedback path tied to the wrong node?—Precedingunsigned comment added by128.12.239.181 (talk)19:09, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The MDAC schematic is definitely wrong, the feedback should go to the input side of C1. Also, this isn't a particularly good MDAC - no auto-zeroing and the opamp output is left floating during phi1. Really, an MDAC is an article unto itself, though it can be mentioned here.—Precedingunsigned comment added by129.34.20.23 (talk)19:38, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was intrigued by the idea of a "lossless resistor"! I believe that the device is not lossless, energy is lost when the voltage on the capacitor suddenly changes from one value to another when it is switched. You can analyse this by assuming the switch has a small resistance, calculating the current transient and the resulting energy lost, then taking the limit as the resistance goes to zero.— Precedingunsigned comment added by84.92.196.225 (talk)16:15, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly correct. And the source is often modeled to have a series resistance while the switching devices are, by their nature, nonlinear. An opportunity, if one desired, to bring out the fact that switching capacitance into and out of a circuit generally leads to large transient currents, with consequent design issues: (1) current carrying capacity of the switching devices including their ability to dissipate of heat, (2) in the case of the now-rare use of mechanical commutation, management of arcing, and (3) unwanted coupling via induction and other means with nearby circuitry.129.176.151.19 (talk)12:53, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Parasitic Insensitive Integrator Error

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It appears the equation should really be Vfb(T) = Vfb(T-t) + C1/C2(Vin(T-t)). Perhaps I should update it.Guerberj (talk)00:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Should kT/C voltage noise be added to the "Difference with real resistor"

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After this article says "SC circuits can have substantially lowerJohnson–Nyquist noise" I'm thinking kT/C should be added. Plenty of search results for "kT/C switched capacitor" can be found. For instance, "Simulation and analysis of noise in switched capacitor amplifier circuits"[1] says "the basic technique is to use large transistors and capacitance values such that kT/C noise dominates" andhttps://www.seas.ucla.edu/brweb/teaching/AIC_Ch12.pdf says "The problem of kT/C noise limits the performance in many high-precision applications. In order to achieve a low noise, the sampling capacitor must be sufficiently large, thus loading other circuits and degrading the speed."Em3rgent0rdr (talk)04:55, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^Forbes, L.; Gopalakrishnan, H.; Wanalertlak, W. (2005)."Simulation and analysis of noise in switched capacitor amplifier circuits". IEEE:55–58.doi:10.1109/WMED.2005.1431618.ISBN 978-0-7803-9072-0.{{cite journal}}:Cite journal requires|journal= (help)

Merge fromAnalog sampled filter

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No consensus. There is no consensus evident in this discussion either for or against the merger. Ordinarily this would not even require closure - the lack of consensus is obvious - but procedurally having an AfD and a merge discussion open simultaneously is a recipe for drama, and so I am putting this to bed.Vanamonde93 (talk)18:36, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Suggested byConstant314 atWikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics#Analog_sampled_filter ~Kvng (talk)00:54, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Not the right place to merge to, perhaps a better target would be to merge toElectronic filter instead
Unknown Lifeform |Talk03:58, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Analog sampled filter has now been nominated for deletion and participants inthe discussion are suggesting this merge proceed. If you oppose this merge, please suggest an alternative at AfD. ~Kvng (talk)14:34, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the material inAnalog sampled filter is entirely about switched capacitor filters.Constant314 (talk)05:14, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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