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Two dimensions

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Is it really correct that two dimensional structures such as triangles have "surface area" ? I do not think so, "surface area" is a three dimensional concept. Ar

I've moved the table of areas of plane figures to the talk page of "Area".Arcfrk (talk)08:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Surface Area To Volume Ratios

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There is a problem with the last section. It states that if you increase the radius the ratio decreases. However, if you change the units of measure, the ratio can increase with a larger radius. A radius of 100 meters has a SA:V ratio of .03, but a radius of 1 kilometer has a ratio of 3. Also, it should be clear that this is assuming cells have a spherical shape.—Precedingunsigned comment added by70.188.231.137 (talk)04:05, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

SA:V is measured in inverse distance units. It is not dimensionless. A sphere with a radius of 100 meters has a ratio of 0.03/meter while the sphere with a radius of 1 kilometer has a ratio of 3/kilometer = 3/(1000 meters) = 0.003/meter. Measuring in the same units, the sphere ten times larger has a ten times smaller ratio, as it should. This similarity law holds for any shape, not just spheres. In the case of cells the only assumption is that a big cell is the same shape as a little one. This is more or less true of cells. It is definitely not true of multicellular structures, which is why one can easily distinguish a mouse bone from an elephant bone even when the mouse bone is magnified to elephantine size. -Dmh (talk) 05:32, 23

And I am SMART—Precedingunsigned comment added by66.112.37.98 (talk)22:33, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What. The. Hell.

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I came here to verify a formula, but I ended up stumbling upon a page a 4th grader could have written. What in the world happened to this article?

S lijin (talk)01:54, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I came here to verify a formula, but I ended up stumbling upon a page a professor could have written. What in the world happened to this article? i can not understand any of this, perhaps someone could submit something eaiser to understandSummer911 (talk)05:32, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from the article

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ShapeArea formula derivation
SphereThe surface area of a sphere is theintegral of infinitesimal circular rings of widthdx{\displaystyle dx}


The radius of the circular ring isf(x)=r2x2{\displaystyle f(x)={\sqrt {r^{2}-x^{2}}}}. The length of the circular ring is equal to2πf(x){\displaystyle 2\pi \cdot f(x)}
The width of the ring can be determined by usingPythagoras' formula for a rectangular triangle with side lengthsdx{\displaystyle dx} andf(x)dx{\displaystyle f'(x)\cdot dx}, which leads to1+f(x)2dx{\displaystyle {\sqrt {1+f'(x)^{2}}}\,dx}
The infinitesimal surface area of the circular ring thus is equal to2πf(x)1+f(x)2dx{\displaystyle 2\pi f(x)\cdot {\sqrt {1+f'(x)^{2}}}\,dx}
Thederivative off(x){\displaystyle f(x)} is equal tof(x)=xr2x2{\displaystyle f'(x)={\frac {-x}{\sqrt {r^{2}-x^{2}}}}}
The surface area of the sphere can be calculated as

rr2πf(x)1+f(x)2dx{\displaystyle \int _{-r}^{r}2\pi f(x)\cdot {\sqrt {1+f'(x)^{2}}}\,dx} =rr2πr2x2(1+x2r2x2)dx=rr2πr2dx=2πrrr1dx{\displaystyle \int _{-r}^{r}2\pi {\sqrt {r^{2}-x^{2}}}\cdot {\sqrt {(}}1+{\frac {x^{2}}{r^{2}-x^{2}}})\,dx=\int _{-r}^{r}2\pi {\sqrt {r^{2}}}\,dx=2\pi r\int _{-r}^{r}1\,dx}

Theantiderivative needed is the simple linear functionx{\displaystyle x}
Thus, the sphere surface area amounts to

Asphere =2πr[r(r)]=4πr2{\displaystyle 2\pi r[r-(-r)]=4\pi r^{2}}

References recovered partially

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http://web.archive.org/web/20120427201949/http://www.math.usma.edu/people/rickey/hm/CalcNotes/schwarz-paradox.pdf— Precedingunsigned comment added by94.197.120.122 (talk)22:10, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]


http://web.archive.org/web/20111215152255/http://mathdl.maa.org/images/upload_library/22/Polya/00494925.di020678.02p0385w.pdf— Precedingunsigned comment added by94.197.120.122 (talk)22:19, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Should "Surface Measure" redirect here?

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The technical term "surface measure" doesn't have a wikipedia page. Is this the page? Should a redirect come here?

Characterization

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The article mentions a characterization of surface area using a few properties such as additivity and invariance under Euclidean motions. There should be given a source for this, and preferably it should also be explained more clearly.MathHisSci (talk)21:52, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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