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I added the few dozen saints listedhere. The information in this source may conflict with information in the saints' articles. This source includes canonization date, saint name, date of death, and the canonizing pope.davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)03:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

when adding birth and death dates. Thank you. --Dharion (talk)10:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am proposing to mergeList of saints by pope with this article. They both are duplicate of each other. --Jayarathina (talk)16:43, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yup. (Although, honestly, while this is a better article, I thinkthat one has a better namespace. I'm usually all for brevity, but this one is rather unclear as to the subject.) — LlywelynII17:11, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

An attempt to proceed with the merge was reverted by the apparent owner of this page, who prefers inline links to citations aa well as inaccurate information.Mannanan51 (talk)18:57, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge: intoWP:SALORDER that possibly uses{{Timeline-event}}s. There multiple duplication of content: e.g.List of saints by pope,List of Catholic saints,Chronological list of saints and blesseds (a list of lists). I think adding categories "Canonized by Pope X" into the articles would be better than a list by popes. Is there a way to populate list articles based on categories and include a lede, etc.? –BoBoMisiu (talk)17:18, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Uncertain: Proceed with a sortable wikitable? See below.—JoeHebda • (talk)13:45, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• SupportJoeHebda's solution below. I think that would be the best route to take. Avoids the duplication of lists "by _____" and avoids huge tables. (If there's a way to make tables collapsible, that would be a good thing to add so readers can shrink tables they know they're not interested in; I'm not sure if that's actually an option, though.)Jujutsuan (Please notify with {{re}}talk |contribs)17:33, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• List of Catholic saints - in sequence by date of death
• List of canonizations - in sequence by Pope, canonization date
• List of saints by pope - in sequence by Pope (19 - 21st century only), canonization date (wikitable)

For many months, I was updatingList of Catholic saints with information fromList of canonizations since it appears to be the most complete.I do like the wikitable format withinList of saints by pope

In addition, there are these individual canonization lists:

• List of saints canonized by Pope Leo XIII
• List of saints canonized by Pope Pius XI
• List of saints canonized by Pope Pius XII
• List of saints canonized by Pope John XXIII
• List of saints canonized by Pope Paul VI
• List of saints canonized by Pope John Paul II
• List of saints canonized by Pope Benedict XVI
• List of saints canonized by Pope Francis

Stepping back and looking at "the big picture", for the average Wikipedia reader, what might be easiest and complete would be an article/list witha sortable (all columns) Wikitable like this:

| Saint name | Birth date | Death date | Pope canonized by | Canonization date |

To prevent the table from becoming HUGE, it might be broken apart by century likeList of Popes for example.—JoeHebda • (talk)13:45, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@JoeHebda: you did a lot of work on this, I think your wikitable idea is good. –BoBoMisiu (talk)22:38, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

While I am no expert for coding wikitables, I did "clone" some ofList of saints canonized by Pope Paul VI, the first few of the 21 saints that he canonized.

* Discussion: – If there is another or better way of setting this up, I invite any and all editors to change above with any improvements needed. Cheers!—JoeHebda • (talk)18:43, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@JoeHebda: the "Saint" and "Birth date" fields is not sorting correctly in your mockup. I'm guessingor in "Birth date" is confusing the algorithm.

No.	Saint	Birth date	Death date	Canonized by	Date of Canonization
1.	Charles Lwanga and 21 Companions	1860 or 1865	3 June 1886	Pope Paul VI	18 October 1964
2.	Benildus Romançon	14 June 1805	13 August 1862	Pope Paul VI	29 October 1967
3.	Julie Billiart	12 July 1751	8 April 1816	Pope Paul VI	22 June 1969
4.	Maria Soledad	2 December 1826	11 October 1887	Pope Paul VI	25 January 1970

I added:

• {{dts}}s as a fix in the above version of your mockup.{{dts}} does not fix the sort if only added to one date, e.g. 1860.
• data-sort-value="last name, first name"| (seeWP:TABLESORT for other options) to sort by last name.
• class="unsortable"| so the "No." field is not sortable. I think the "No." field will be troublesome since each value is hard coded – adding a missing saint into the table between two previously added saints will require inserting a new number.

–BoBoMisiu (talk)21:19, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ThanksBoBoMisiu for the table updates. Sure looks like a lot more wikicode, wish there was an easier way. Regards,—JoeHebda • (talk)17:17, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No.	Saint	Birth date	Death date	Canonized by	Date of Canonization
1.	Mary Euphrasia Pelletier	31 July 1796	24 April 1868	Pope Pius XII	2 May 1940
2.	Gemma Galgani	12 March 1878	11 April 1903	Pope Pius XII	2 May 1940
3.	Margaret of Hungary	27 January 1242	18 January 1271	Pope Pius XII	19 November 1943
4.	Frances Xavier Cabrini	15 July 1850	22 December 1917	Pope Pius XII	7 July 1946
5.	Nicholas of Flüe	1417	21 March 1487	Pope Pius XII	15 May 1947
6.	Bernardino Realino	1 December 1530	2 July 1616	Pope Pius XII	22 June 1947
1.	Carlo Melchiori	19 October 1613	6 January 1670	Pope John XXIII	12 April 1959
2.	Joaquina Vedruna de Mas	16 April 1783	28 August 1854	Pope John XXIII	12 April 1959
3.	Gregorio Barbarigo	16 September 1625	18 June 1697	Pope John XXIII	26 May 1960
4.	Juan de Ribera	16 September 1625	18 June 1697	Pope John XXIII	12 June 1960
1.	Charles Lwanga and 21 Companions	1860 or 1865	3 June 1886	Pope Paul VI	18 October 1964
2.	Benildus Romançon	14 June 1805	13 August 1862	Pope Paul VI	29 October 1967
3.	Julie Billiart	12 July 1751	8 April 1816	Pope Paul VI	22 June 1969
4.	Maria Soledad	2 December 1826	11 October 1887	Pope Paul VI	25 January 1970

* Discussion: Above example has more data & three popes. Regards,—JoeHebda • (talk)18:10, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hey all, in light of the merge dicussions, I started a table from the beginning.

Some notes: When dates were unknown, I left them blank. If saints were called "blabla of someplace" I had the table sort by their given name rather than the place. I also included a notes column since it looks like some of the other articles to be merged in included some notes. Thoughts? It'd be great if several people could contribute. Is there some way we'd like to split the table? Centuries were proposed. If others could contribute that'd be great. We could either start building the table in the article or build it here and move it over. Thoughts?Ajpolino (talk)02:15, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging editors who participated in the discussion 6 months ago@JoeHebda,Jujutsuan, andBoBoMisiu:. Any help is much appreciated!Ajpolino (talk)02:18, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

* Recommend – To help "get the job done" I think we should simplify this wikitable with less columns. Then the list will be more consistent with these two:

• List of venerable people (Roman Catholic) - Name, Date of death, Date declared venerable
• List of beatified people - Name, Date of death, Date of beatification

If the reader needs more information from the list there is the wikilink to that person's article. Regards,—JoeHebda • (talk)17:17, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

* Redirect this article to comprehensiveList of saints so there is one central place to maintain.—JoeHebda • (talk)17:28, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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