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This toxic substance is present in many beans and must be eliminated by cooking the beans before consumption. Is it present in other legumes?— Precedingunsigned comment added by108.202.33.17 (talk)16:13, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It strikes me as odd that the first mention of the Americas references the US, whereas beans have been a staple within the Americans since well before the colonisation. I don’t know nearly enough about American legumes to do this myself, but hopefully someone else is willing to edit the history section to broaden its scope.Heavenly Spoon (talk)09:54, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I've cut some of the soybean stuff, and added a bit about beans more generally. The section is still poorly-structured and unbalanced, but a bit better than it was.Chiswick Chap (talk)11:53, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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My edits about food recommendations have been reverted by @Chiswick Chap. This is surprising to me because I think public health recommendations about various food items are important information about them. Multiple other Wikipedia pages (e.g.nut (fruit),fruit,poultry) on similar topics do contain information about recommendations or health effects.vegetable even has a wholerecommendations section.
While at a superficial look, these public health recommendations may seem like "opinions and institutions" and not factual; in fact, they are always backed by tons of research and asWP:MEDORG puts it: "Statements and information from reputable major medical and scientific bodies may be valuable encyclopedic sources.". And since these recommendations very often mention legumes as a healthy food (as evidenced by its mentions onhealthy diet), I think mentioning it in this article would also be an improvement.Bendegúz Ács (talk)20:58, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks fir discussing. I do think the article is far better off without such things. A bare recommendation from this or that institution says nothing: somebody thinks it is good. The reader gets no clue as to why. The rest of the article instead says exactly what legumes contain, and all the other real biology. That's how it should be. It's enough without the clutter.Chiswick Chap (talk)00:08, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree that a recommendation from a reputable institution says nothing, but I agree that it is even more helpful when the reasoning is explained as well. Please do take a look atVegetable#Recommendations because it actually does not contain reasoning or health effects, just details about the recommendations themselves and that is agood article (unlike this one).
What do you think about including the recommendations along with some health effects? For example, something like "Substituting legumes for foods that are high in saturated fats or refined carbohydrates is likely to lower the risk of cardiovascular disease and type 2 diabetes mellitus." based on this source[1], similarly tonut (fruit). Or just mentioning the health effects without the recommendations?Bendegúz Ács (talk)14:34, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We're much more interested in the health effects, but in that case we need to comply withWP:MEDRS, which basically says that no medical claim can be made unless it is supported by asystematic review of scientific evidence (i.e. across multiple research papers). We cannot rely on research articles alone for such claims; still less can we rely on non-scientific pronouncements by institutions. If you read WP:MEDRS you will see the issue.Chiswick Chap (talk)14:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]