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HeaderTotalHeaderTotal
(Top)16,10816,108717717
Name373700
History8063,75804,020
Prehistory3,5123,512140140
Antiquity2,9299,048155699
Achaemenid Empire3,3633,363317317
Parthian and Sasanian empires2,7562,756227227
Medieval period1,1649,350145883
Iranian Intermezzo3,3553,355357357
Mongol invasions2,6792,679257257
Timur and the rise of new powers2,1522,152124124
Early modern period2,5495,551292612
Nader Shah and the shifting balance of power1,4431,443168168
Rise of the Qajar dynasty and foreign interference1,5591,559152152
20th century up to the Iranian Revolution737,9700570
Constitutional Revolution and the rise of the Pahlavi dynasty2,7922,792139139
World War II and post-occupation instability1,3071,307140140
Mosaddegh and the Shah's rule3,7983,798291291
Iranian Revolution3,40928,2472151,116
Khomeini, Iran-Iraq War, and leadership transition3,2813,281200200
Khamenei era21,55721,557701701
Geography7,05714,700318702
Climate2,9772,977151151
Biodiversity4,6664,666233233
Government and politics94121,08703,126
Supreme Leader12,35012,350484484
President6,2316,231250250
Guardian Council2,2512,251120120
Supreme National Security Council4,1994,1999191
Legislature3,9353,935138138
Law1,7261,726193193
Administrative divisions1,1421,1425656
Foreign relations17,16517,165381381
Military18,38318,383461461
Nuclear programme10,26110,261164164
Regional influence26,36826,368366366
Human rights and censorship16,98216,982422422
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Agriculture and fishery3,6083,608237237
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Energy11,82611,826296296
Science and technology7,22318,208336550
Iranian Space Agency10,98510,985214214
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Books7,7337,73300
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Change Unitary presidential theocratic Islamic republic to Unitary presidential theocratic Islamic republic under a totalitarian dictatorship78.39.19.11 (talk)18:08, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please providereliable sources that support the change you want to be made.Day Creature (talk)19:51, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.ncr-iran.org/en/news/iran-resistance/charles-michel-in-rome-irans-dictatorship-is-weak-afraid-and-facing-a-credible-alternative/5.75.61.6 (talk)14:01, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran5.75.61.40 (talk)15:26, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/middle-east/iran/report-iran/5.75.61.40 (talk)15:28, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The first cite is obviously not an acceptable source. The second is Wikipedia, which is not a reliable source for Wikipedia, and doesn't call it a totalitarian dictatorship anyhow. The third also does not name it suchly.O3000, Ret. (talk)15:39, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Dictator" is a subjective label and there is well-established consensus (such as several deletions ofCategory:Dictators) that we should not label people as dictators in wiki-voice unless it is part of a title (e.g.Roman dictator). –LaundryPizza03 (d)04:17, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No one has called Iran "Persia" since the Revolution.

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"Persia" should redirect to the Achaemenid Empire or Persia (disambiguation) or History of Iran, etc. It's like redirecting Babylonia to Iraq.NNNNNNNN (talk)23:54, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Octaazacubane Hi, you are right! I corrected that bythis edit. Thanks,Hooman Mallahzadeh (talk)05:57, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Importance of "Persia"

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@Aidepikiwnirotide Hi, no doubt about being synonym of "Iran" and "Persia". But is this name such important that can be mentioned in the first line? I think, like other countries, we can mention the synonym "Persia" in other sections of this article. Maybe in the final line of lead section. SeeIraq,Syria,Spain, etc. Even though all of them have historical synonyms, none of these articles contain such historical synonyms at the first line. Thanks,Hooman Mallahzadeh (talk)12:15, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, The very fact that there is so much sensitivity around this issue indicates how important it is. That said, yes ; the name "Persia" should be mentioned in the very first line so that the reader immediately understands which country is being referred to.
Many readers only read the first few lines.Aidepikiwnirotide (talk)12:27, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Aidepikiwnirotide Can you find any other country article that uses its "historical name" in the first line? By convention, all countries use "name" and "official name" without "historical name". Breaking this convention for Iran is an issue.Hooman Mallahzadeh (talk)12:44, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
hhhAidepikiwnirotide (talk)13:04, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
1. The name Persia remained the official name of the country in letters, maps, and formal documents until 1935, that is, only about 90 years ago. Therefore, referring to it merely as a “historical name” is not entirely accurate, as Persia was more than just a historical term.
2. The reason this issue doesn’t exist for many other countries is that such an unusual event simply didn’t happen elsewhere; namely, a sudden, one-day request through a letter to replace name X with name Y.
3. Nevertheless, in cases like Greece, the country’s official name (the Hellenic Republic) is not commonly used. Instead, the widely recognized historical name, Greece, is used. As a result, both names appear side by side in the first line of the Wikipedia article.Aidepikiwnirotide (talk)13:06, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Hooman Mallahzadeh
1. The name Persia remained the official name of the country in letters, maps, and formal documents until 1935, that is, only about 90 years ago. Therefore, referring to it merely as a “historical name” is not entirely accurate, as Persia was more than just a historical term.
2. The reason this issue doesn’t exist for many other countries is that such an unusual event simply didn’t happen elsewhere; namely, a sudden, one-day request through a letter to replace name X with name Y.
3. Nevertheless, in cases like Greece, the country’s official name (the Hellenic Republic) is not commonly used. Instead, the widely recognized historical name, Greece, is used. As a result, both names appear side by side in the first line of the Wikipedia article.Aidepikiwnirotide (talk)13:08, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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